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AirBnB is my next scam rage.
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AirBnB is my next scam rage.


Nov 28, 2022, 8:18 AM

went to book our yearly 4 day trip to Dollywood. Found a nice little cabin for $90 dollars a night. Told wife to go ahead and book it.

Wasn't 90. Was actually 135. No problem still in our budget.

By the time I got back in the truck I asked how much total it was. "Oh just 780"





Turns out dude doubles the rate in fees. Then refuses a refund. Will only give 1/2 of each night and no fees returned.

So I called AirBNB and they made him refund it. Told him it was bad business to do that.



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I like your funny words magic man


I mean, when you go to checkout, did it not tell you


Nov 28, 2022, 8:24 AM

the total? Did ya'll just book it then see it was double what you thought it would be on the bank statement?

They charge crazy cleaning fees sometimes, but if you shop around, you usually get something good. However, I have been using AirBnB and VRBO to find places, then google the place and I can usually book the condo through the actual property managers for less. Worked at Caswell Beach, worked in Jackson Hole, worked in Whitefish, MT.

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I'm pretty sure it was an inside job and wife denied


Nov 28, 2022, 8:26 AM

seeing it. But I'm sure she did.

Then when I flipped my #### she got mad.

oh well.

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I like your funny words magic man


$200 a night is dirt cheap these days for anywhere


Nov 28, 2022, 11:34 AM

for a house or cabin

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Are you a dummy


Nov 28, 2022, 8:28 AM

Or just stupid?
Jeebus, cooch, stay in Motel6 next time…

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Dollywood? Protip


Nov 28, 2022, 8:32 AM

Hide in the RR at closing time and just stay in one of the fake cabins on site

That way you only pay one day’s admission too

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As an airbnb host, I can tell you that we all wish they


Nov 28, 2022, 10:25 AM

would take "cleaning fees" out. We hate it as much as the guest. However, if we unilaterally charge 0, and adjust the daily rate accordingly, our rate will show as higher than comparable places and not get seen by potential guests. So we all have to play that game. With the cleaning fee factored in, a two night stay in our place is less expensive than a hotel, and we provide a much better place; we would love to simply charge that rate and do away with the cleaning fee.

We also hate that if we give a discount for a weekly stay (we don't, because we don't really want weekly stays), the site picks up that nightly rate as the advertised rate, so if one then books a two night stay it will actually be more. We don't like that any more than the guest does. Like most hosts, we don't mess around with the rate: same rate every day, no matter what. I'm sorry this situation happened to you.

I'm talking myself into eliminating the cleaning fee, see what happens.

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Re: As an airbnb host, I can tell you that we all wish they


Nov 28, 2022, 10:36 AM

https://news.airbnb.com/airbnb-is-introducing-total-price-display-and-updating-guest-checkout/


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drunk at the putt putt.


This is a very welcome change, though not universally


Nov 28, 2022, 10:58 AM

applicable. This gets a little wonky, but stay with me:

Yes, a price that cuts through the mess of cleaning fees, etc is a great change. In the US it has been doing that for a while, I think. However, for total price to show in the search, one has to put in the specific dates in the search bar: not all searchers do that. Sometimes I do, sometimes not, because if a place I really want is unavailable on, say, the first or last day of my stay, I'm often willing to adjust. But if I specified the dates, I would never see that place at all. And many searchers just don't bother to specify dates. So, while this does help, it can actually be a complicating factor. Again, I would rather them just eliminate the cleaning fees. Way simpler.

The display algorithm has many hosts ready to leave AirBnB if a competitor comes along: BNB tries to keep it secret, but some hosts are good at playing it and therefore keep their units on the first few pages, while others who simply want to provide a good place, and who don't want to get into algorithm competition, get stuck way down the display. Prioritizing by total price vs daily rate seems like a great thing (I'm for it), but I'm not even sure it was prioritizing by price before. If total price becomes a factor in the algorithm we should be okay (we are very reasonable for the quality of the space), but people will find ways to manipulate that too. Again, just take out cleaning fees.

Edit: "Yes" on simplifying check-out requirements, though that probably hurts us: we already had no requirements. It's actually easier to strip the bed than to gather up what someone already took off. Here's a little behind the scenes factoid: when we see the bed stripped, we think, "Uh oh". Almost always this means they have damaged something. Makeup stuff can usually be treated out, but some people use some sort of peroxide stuff on their faces, and it will bleach color out of fabric. I can't imagine they do that to their sheets at home. We use white sheets for that purpose, but sometimes it gets on the bedspread. Just have to throw it away. Cost of doing business. No worries. We love our guests, and we hope they enjoy the time in our place. But there are all sorts of little things like that. The host forums are full of wild stories. We've been very fortunate to have wonderful guests.


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annual trip to Dollywood… lutz


Nov 28, 2022, 10:46 AM

You live near the redneck beach capital and then vacation in the red neck mountain capital? Yikes

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lodging $70, cleaning $70 = $140, just like uber, not worth


Nov 28, 2022, 11:00 AM

it

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Uber is well worth it after about 8 beers


Nov 28, 2022, 11:10 AM

at just about any cost.

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The hosts now charge a 'booking fee'


Nov 28, 2022, 11:25 AM

You gotta pay VRBO/AirBNB for booking, then the host charges another booking fee, then the daily fee, plus cleaning.

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I use airbnb a good bit and I just checked to be sure...


Nov 28, 2022, 11:26 AM

when you put in a search and the dates, it lists all of the properties available with a nightly rate shown AND a total...and the total includes all of the fees.

When you then click on a property, there is a box where the date range is listed and all of the fees are clearly shown there.

So, I guess what I'm saying is...what the heck are you talking about?

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Like most things Fbcooch relays, its his fault.


Nov 28, 2022, 11:41 AM

He told his wife to book a room, she did, and his cheapass balked when he saw the price.

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