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DeSantis is seemingly Putinesque. Will the national GOP
Apr 21, 2022, 10:45 AM
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follow this clown in 24 (if Trump doesn't run)? I'm guessing they will and veer more strongly away from the party of Reagan, George Hubert Walker Bush, Bob Dole, Strom Thurmond, Orrin Hatch, and Alan Simpson.
Who’s the real Mickey Mouse in DeSantis vs. Disney? | Editorial
Disney fight shows that winning isn’t enough. Florida Republicans have to punish their critics.
The Walt Disney Co. is learning what university professors, public schools and media organizations in Florida already know — cross Gov. Ron DeSantis at your own peril. Nothing else explains the governor’s crusade against Disney in the wake of Disney’s criticism of the so-called “don’t say gay” law that Florida Republicans made a priority this year. It’s not enough for DeSantis to win; the governor has to cudgel his opponents. It’s a terrible reflection on Florida government and the health of the state’s democracy.
On Tuesday, just hours before the start of a special legislative session on redistricting, DeSantis announced he had expanded the agenda to consider repealing the law that allows the Walt Disney World Resort to operate as a self-governing body. The attack on Disney came after the company criticized the Parental Rights in Education bill, which critics dub the “don’t say gay” law. The measure prohibits instruction related to gender identity and sexual orientation in kindergarten through third grade (which wasn’t happening anyway) and requires that such conversations in later grades be “age-appropriate,” a vague description that could easily lead to unnecessary legal wrangling. Disney worked behind the scenes to weaken the measure. After it passed, Disney CEO Bob Chapek apologized to his employees for not acting more forcefully, and announced the company would pause its political donations in the state.
There is nothing wrong with reexamining Disney’s special taxing district and governing body. State lawmakers created the Reedy Creek Improvement District in 1967. Encompassing 39 square miles, two cities and land in Orange and Osceola counties, the designation allows Disney to act with the same authority and responsibility as a county government. Disney can control its own zoning. It has its own police and fire departments, and it operates independently of other rules imposed on counties in the state.
Repealing the designation raises pros and cons, all of which deserve serious, deliberate consideration. But that’s not what this week’s special session is about. Adding Disney at the last minute was a shot across the bow, and the governor’s way of warning other companies not to cross him — or else.
Of course, this has become standard procedure for one-party rule with whiffs of autocracy. Last year, the University of Florida was besieged with allegations of appeasement after trying to gag faculty from engaging in politically contentious lawsuits involving DeSantis and the state. While the public outcry prompted UF to reverse course, the governor signed a bill this week making it harder for faculty at state universities to retain tenure. After Florida’s 12 largest school districts defied DeSantis’ anti-mask mandates, Republican lawmakers moved this year to make them ineligible for millions of dollars in high-performance grants. Last month, the governor signed a bill imposing term limits on locally-elected school board members (”Throw the bums out,” he extorted). In March, for the second time in 11 months, the Legislature voted to send a bill to DeSantis that would strip Florida’s newspapers of revenue from legal notices, in what lawmakers openly mused was retribution for stories and editorials critical of the Republican leadership. Each instance builds to a pattern of bullying, and another example is surely coming soon.
Florida Republicans are waging a phony war. They claim to be bastions against indoctrination and censorship, yet they are honing those dangers to a fine point themselves. Shaking up Fantasyland after a half-century is one thing. But is that the price of political dissent? What company, what industry, what institution is next? And where is Florida headed under this Republican leadership if more voices merely clam up and go away?
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Disney is our Cash Cow
Apr 21, 2022, 10:58 AM
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it gets people into the maze of toll roads that lead to more tolls roads, then expensive parking lots, overpriced hotels, finished off by a State trooper cleaning out what is left on your way out in Jacksonville. As a result, we pay low property taxes, and no corporate or state income Tax. Why on earth anyone would fugg with that is a head-scratcher. If he keeps us in national headlines for stupid #### like this, it will eventually make a ding.
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Yea, he created an issue with the "Don't say gay" law where
Apr 21, 2022, 11:05 AM
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none existed. I wonder if he would have done stupid shlt like this if he didn't have presidential aspirations, wanting the nutty 25-30% Trump base. That's just a guess of the size of it. Trump won 47% of the vote. I'd think 20% or so just voted against Biden and are actually pretty thoughtful.
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Re: Yea, he created an issue with the "Don't say gay" law where
Apr 21, 2022, 11:11 AM
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wow, you're dumb
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Re: Yea, he created an issue with the "Don't say gay" law where
Apr 21, 2022, 7:40 PM
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extra dumb
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Just trying to be succinct.***
Apr 21, 2022, 1:14 PM
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Suckcinctly prejudicially proffered.***
Apr 21, 2022, 11:15 PM
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Re: Teacher's pet brags too much, loses "pet" status
Apr 21, 2022, 12:05 PM
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No doubt that Desantis' attention is drawn to FL entities that had enjoyed special privileges for many years.
Special privileges are granted in the first place to attract business (or teaching / administrative talent to public universities). But that doesn't mean that the special privileges get to remain in perpetuity.
While not just circumstantial that Desantis is moving to make it easier to revoke tenure status for professors at state funded universities, it is the FL government's right to do so.
When the specially privileged start believing that their special privileges are 'owed' to them forever, then their comeuppance is self-triggered.
The analogy is the age old "teacher's pet" situation.
The 'good' students (josephG and TigerBalm) behave in class, are polite to the teacher, give cookies and snacks to the teacher, and stay in during recess to help out the teacher. In return, the 'good student's attain "teacher's pet" status. Teacher's pets get the favorable tilt when it comes to grading and for extra-curricular stuff.
The 'bad' students (like me) witness this activity and, despite our badness, know that the favoritism shown to the "pets" is wrong.
HOWEVER, if the "pet" starts publicly bragging about its "pet" status, then this shows up the teacher. "Pet" status is revoked, and the 'ex-Pet' no longer gets the 'benefit of the doubt' in grading.
In a larger sense, Disney and U of FL lost their "pet" status when they showed up the teacher.
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This is still a dumb analogy that doesn't work.***
Apr 21, 2022, 1:28 PM
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Re: Lefties don't like analogies that weakens their argument
Apr 21, 2022, 2:35 PM
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Okay. Fine. I'll explain why it's dumb.
Apr 21, 2022, 2:49 PM
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Florida wasn't a "teacher's pet". This was an established relationship between a state and a company that was soaring in an effort to bolster the economy. It was a strong symbiotic relationship--one that DeSantis and the GOP in FL are going to pay dearly for destroying--to win for everyone. Disney didn't "brag" about it to get it revoked so that everyone else could be treated fairly.
Here's a more accurate analogy for this situation:
You have a teacher who heads up National Honor Society and also coaches softball. The valedictorian, Mary (doesn't identify as Mary... she was born Mary), is president of NHS. She kicks ### in school and has worked hard to get there, and she also runs the club well to the benefit of the other students.
Well, the teacher/coach creates some new absurd policy on the softball team, something like lefties aren't allowed to bat anymore. Mary voices her opinion on that at dinner with students one night.
The teacher hears about it and strips Mary of her NHS presidency. Then he sets out to screw Mary over in other ways. Simply because, well, how dare she disagree with his decisions.
The teacher thinks he's taught Mary a lesson and thinks he's all powerful. Little does he know, Mary's parents are two of the most prominent members of the community and hell is coming with them.
Now, back to your analogy. You see, people like you who admit they were the bad kids, you thought anyone who wasn't acting up was a "teacher's pet" and was getting special treatment. You somehow thought it was unfair that you got in trouble when in reality, you were justifiably paying the consequences for your stupid behavior. To an entitled turd, they'll always think they shouldn't pay the price for how they act.
That's why people like DeSantis and Trump resonate with people like you. They're ######## who get away with being jerks, and you wish that could have been you. Somehow, you think that's "fair".
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Re:Okay Fine. I'll explain why it's dumb / Learning disorder
Apr 21, 2022, 3:12 PM
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That analogy doesn't have a thing to do with Disney (or U of FL) getting noticed by the 'teacher' for 'behavior unbecoming of a teacher's pet.'
It's just another un-connected rant to bring up a social justice point.
A relevant analogy is one which describes how an entity (Disney or the Teacher's Pet) had gotten special privileges from the Powerful Force. E.g., special privileges which were not fair, but were bestowed because the Powerful Force LIKED the their 'favorite entity' and perpetuated the unfair practices towards their 'favorite entity.'
When the 'favorite entity' (Teacher's Pet ... same as Disney) showed off and showed it's A_ZZ too much, which made the Powerful Force mad. Taking action, the Powerful Force then revoked those special privileges from the Teacher's Pet (and also from Disney).
The now-defrocked Teacher's Pet (same as Disney) isn't getting unfair treatment, they are simply no longer getting favorable treatment.
Logic ain't for everyone; emotional outbursts are much more fun.
I don't know how to draw this analogy via use of blocks and cartoon characters, so you'll need to go to Daddy to explain it to you.
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Re:Okay Fine. I'll explain why it's dumb / Learning disorder
Apr 21, 2022, 3:54 PM
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Dude, there wasn't a logical sentence in that whole really weird diatribe.
I tried to follow it, I really did.
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Re:Okay Fine. I'll explain why it's dumb / Learning disorder
Apr 21, 2022, 4:15 PM
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Thanks for playing along ... let's try this.
(1) Teacher's pets are people who get special classroom privileges (including but not limited to getting 'latitude' when a borderline academic performance situation comes into play) from the teacher. I.e., privileges which were not availed to the 'non-pet' students.
NOTE: The "pet" privileges are granted at the sole discretion of the teacher.
The Teacher's pet enjoys those privileges only so long as the "pet" doesn't make the teacher look bad.
If the 'pet' makes the teacher look bad (such as publicly letting other kids know that he's getting special privileges from the teacher), then the teacher stops giving the "pet" special privileges.
KEY POINT: The 'de-frocked' Teacher's pet isn't now receiving unfair treatment; it's just that his preferential treatment has been revoked.
(2) Disney was a special 'pet' of Florida; Disney received special privileges to be in Florida (including but not limited to preferential tax treatment). I.e., privileges which were not availed to Disney's 'non-privileged' competitors.
NOTE: The "special tax treatment" privilege is granted at the sole discretion of the FL Gov't.
Disney enjoys those privileges only so long as Disney doesn't make the State of Florida look bad.
Disney engaged in business practices and public rhetoric which the FL State Gov't viewed as making them look bad. FL Gov't then removes the special privileges which it had availed to Disney.
KEY POINT: The 'de-frocked' Disney isn't now receiving unfair treatment; it's just that Disney's preferential treatment has been revoked.
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If the left says he's bad, he must be good.***
Apr 21, 2022, 12:24 PM
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Re: If the left says he's bad, he must be good.***
Apr 21, 2022, 1:26 PM
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Man, if only we'd had a mega thread on this topic yesterday***
Apr 21, 2022, 12:25 PM
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True but editorial published today.***
Apr 21, 2022, 1:16 PM
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Re: DeSantis is seemingly Putinesque. Will the national GOP
Apr 21, 2022, 12:28 PM
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DeSantis taking on Disney kind of reminds me of Tailgunner Joe McCarthy trying to take on the Army.
At some point, my man, you are, as Abigail Disney herself mentioned in that really mild tone of voice blueblooded billionaires use just before they're about to go nuclear on you, you're out ahead of your skis, and Bad Things are gonna happen when you're doing it on a Black Diamond slope.
I mean, sure, it plays with the base, but that ain't necessarily a good thing right now either. I mean, there's this other guy called Trump in your state, and he already sees you coming up in his rear-view...and he is not a sharer. This is maybe not a good moment for you to be trying to build a national profile, there, Ron, not when you're about to run for re-election for governor in 2022.
Trump is totally going to shiv him. And Disney will be right there to hand Trump the knife, along with a whole lot of campaign and especially personal cash, since we all know that's the real way to Trump's heart.
It's going to be kind of hard to run for president when DeSantis doesn't even win the governor's race in his own state. This was maybe not the best political move ever.
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Re: DeSantis is seemingly Putinesque. Will the national GOP
Apr 21, 2022, 12:57 PM
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They are nothing alike.
Apr 21, 2022, 1:04 PM
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What you are you are seeing now is pre-primary Billy-Badd-ass Desantis.
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Re: DeSantis is seemingly Putinesque. Will the national GOP
Apr 21, 2022, 1:21 PM
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Actually, DeSantis does have baggage.
That baggage is called "Donald Trump", who leads the GOP...and who will tolerate another man becoming popular in his orbit and possibly taking the party from him about as well as any authoritarian leader does.
Ask Leon Trotsky how that goes. Or ask Mikhail Khodorkovsky, who was the wealthiest oligarch in Russia and an advisor to Boris Yeltsin...before Putin got ahold of him, dismantled his oil company, and threw him in jail for a decade.
Who is the second most powerful person in Russia? Nobody, that's who. Anybody who might become a successor to Putin gets eradicated.
DeSantis is headed for trouble.
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Re: Very true. Ridiculous hyperbole
Apr 21, 2022, 2:38 PM
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NM ... other than to get serious.
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It would be nice to have real Republican Party again.
Apr 21, 2022, 1:13 PM
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Instead, populism defined by lowest common denominator likes/dislikes is their only platform. Reagan would vomit at the site of this party. This is third world politics at its worst.
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the wide middle has fallen out of politics. Both sides
Apr 21, 2022, 3:13 PM
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have moved to the extreme. Gerrymandering did this.
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Re: the wide middle has fallen out of politics. Both sides
Apr 21, 2022, 3:53 PM
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Gerrymandering, a simplistic two-party system that increasingly caters to either extreme, divided and partisan media - especially once Fox got into the fold and started substituting Infotainment for actual news and the rest of cable news followed suit - outright Russian disinformation that got interwound with conservative media - and of course, social media, that amplifies the power of partisan misinformation and disinformation.
Ranked choice voting is how we get out of this mess. Binary politics in this environment produces a obliterate-the-opposition-at-all-costs mentality. It changes literally everything. All of a sudden instead of trying to be the most extreme, you have to go back to making the maximum number of voters at least kind of like you, it puts a lot more options on the menu so a politician can't just obliterate his one opponent and win but instead has to sell himself, and it promotes civility in politics since a caustic hater and negative campaigner won't thrive in that environment.
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He's a Trump who actually has the brains...
Apr 21, 2022, 1:30 PM
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To understand what Trumpism actually wants to accomplish and how to manipulate it. Trump didn't even fully understand what he was creating; he was just in it for his own selfishness.
Thus, DeSantis is more dangerous than Trump.
He's not a real conservative or Republican and people who support him aren't either. But I look forward to watching Disney crushing him.
Sometimes, you need a monster to destroy another one...
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Re: He's a Trump who actually has the brains...
Apr 21, 2022, 1:49 PM
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You know, I can't stand Disney
Apr 21, 2022, 2:55 PM
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I hate visiting their parks. I hate dodging all the people in there. #### their expensive beers in Epcot Around the World. I can't stand their corporate, iron-fisted greed. I hate that they bought Star Wars and messed up the new sequels. I don't GAF about their stance on transgender mice or ducks. I hate that I'm paying for their streaming service. I hate that stupid "Let it Go" song.
But if they're gearing up to crush the man who thinks he's the Robert the Bruce to Trump's William Wallace? Pass me the #### mouse ears and I'll wear em.
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Re: He's a Trump who actually has brains...Brandon's brains?
Apr 21, 2022, 2:41 PM
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Although I'm beginning to get the feeling that you don't like Trump, you are a fool if you think that Trump isn't very very smart.
Just being emotional about your dislike of Trump doesn't transform your ignorant comments into smart observations.
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Re: He's a Trump who actually has brains...Brandon's brains?
Apr 21, 2022, 2:56 PM
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Trump is a smart con artist and businessman. As a president, he is an imbecile.
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Re: He's a Trump who has brains... Alan Turing, is that you?
Apr 21, 2022, 3:59 PM
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Trump's foreign policy (with regard to NATO, Russia, Iran, Saudi Arabia, P.R.China, Taiwan, Japan, Mexico, S.America) was far better than either Obama's or Biden's.
Trump's management of domestic matters (Dept. of Transportation and Dept. of Energy jumps out) was infinitely better than either Obama's or Biden's.
But as the world's current reincarnation of Alan Turing, you have the standing to call pretty much everyone else in the world an imbecile.
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Re: He's a Trump who has brains: No trigger / real ? for you
Apr 21, 2022, 4:42 PM
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I read this a lot (Trump has only selfish motives for wanting to be president).
But what specifically can you (or anyone) point out that establishes that President Trump had mis-used the presidency for his own personal profit?
(Please, let's not say that 'Trump wanted to be president so that he could salve his insatiable ego to be on TV all the time' stuff. Hopefully there'lll be more than the small fry assertions that he billed the Fed. Gov't when doing work at Mar a Lago. BTW, Mar a Lago was not Trump's home since he converted it to a business (private club) in the early to mid-1990s. He had a legit right to bill for using Mar a Lago when it was a business.)
What else do you (and others) have that's tangible. This isn't a joke ... I really want to see what's out there and legitimate.
And for those inevitable 'Orange Man Bad has done so many bad things that I can't even remember one of them' answers, spare yourselves the embarrassment.
Thanks!
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Re: DeSantis is seemingly Putinesque. Will the national GOP
Apr 21, 2022, 2:15 PM
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I’ve never seen so many people against a man that stands for secure borders, low taxes, strong military, and parent’s rights. Yea, nothing conservative about him.
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Re: DeSantis is seemingly Putinesque. Will the national GOP
Apr 21, 2022, 2:16 PM
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Re: DeSantis / Putinesque = LGBTQ meltdown
Apr 21, 2022, 2:49 PM
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Nice to see that TNet's leftist wing is attempting to use someone other than Hitler to describe any of their political opponents.
So now the new hyperbolic reference is Hitler.
First it was Trump, now it's Desantis, whose next? Mike Lindell? Franklin Graham?
Due to the leftists' inability to provide coherent logic (i.e., logic that can stand up to a more persuasive different point of view), the ever-more-desperate Biden voters have nothing left to turn to other than analogies between truly bad people and their political enemies.
But this weak sauce seems to work in gathering up other poorly informed and circumspect-less like minded people to join them.
The LGBTQ crowd may be the absolute worst subset from among the other lefties.
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Okay. Tell me how Putin responds to
Apr 21, 2022, 3:27 PM
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criticism and enemies who don't toe the line?
He tries to destroy them.
How does DeSantis respond to media criticism, school districts that have mask mandates, corporations that criticize him?
He tries to destroy them.
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Re: Okay. Tell me how Putin responds to
Apr 21, 2022, 3:57 PM
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Solid whataboutism.
Apr 21, 2022, 5:59 PM
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Re: Okay. Tell me how Putin responds to
Apr 21, 2022, 4:05 PM
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DeSantis is going to invade Disney World and poison Mickey Mouse.
You may not like what he and the FL legislature are doing regarding Disney's special land deal, but comparing him to Putin is definitely hyperbolic.
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Re: Okay. Tell me how Putin responds to
Apr 21, 2022, 4:29 PM
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So ... just like Desantis ... Putin punishes his 'new enemies' by revoking special privileges which had (until now) had given those same 'new enemies' prior to Putin getting mad at them.
So now Putin's 'new enemies' are on a level playing field versus their competition? Putin didn't put his 'new enemies' at a disadvantage vs. their competitors?
Oh the humanity! How could Putin be ... wait for it, wait for it ... so much like Hitler?
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Gosh, you make a good case for correcting my misunderstanding about Putin. In my previous ignorance, I had viewed Putin as a psychotic bully with a top shelf nuclear football.
But now I see him as a rising leader who is taking steps to stamp out crony capitalism, and to bring a true non-partisan business modus operandi to Russia!
(Hope that you aren't insulted if I corroborate your view about Putin from other sources.)
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Re: DeSantis / Putinesque = LGBTQ meltdown
Apr 21, 2022, 4:20 PM
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I meant "Putin" instead of "Hitler" in the 2nd sentence.
Goin' to snag a McLatte while the boss is diddling the intern.
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Re: DeSantis is seemingly Putinesque. Will the national GOP
Apr 21, 2022, 4:06 PM
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I would say he is more accurately compared to Viktor Orban…with maybe a hint less fascism (at least openly). There were many (myself included) who feared the rise of a populist who actually knows how to play the game…and DeSantis is that guy.
There was a brief period of time that I thought I might be able to vote for someone like DeSantis, but his recent performative politics have killed any chance of that happening. I say performative, because I really do think his current/recent actions are less about ideology and more about courting those Trump voters who are more easily swayed by fear and a gentle stroking of their soft bigoted underbelly. He already has the evangelical vote, so he won’t need to schedule any publicity stunts in front of an abortion clinic or anything…but he may throw something in for good measure.
Snark aside…as dangerous a leader as Trump was/is…he is undisciplined, unfocused, and basically just a grifter at heart. Conversely, DeSantis is a skilled, motivated, and focused politician, who has his eye on the prize. He’s extremely popular and the pub party has done a masterful job (with the help of the progressives) of bombarding us with scary stories about progressives coming for their babies. Now that the pubs have purged most of the moderates from their ranks (or at least scared them into hiding), the timing is perfect for Viktor DeSantis.
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Re: DeSantis is seemingly Putinesque. Will the national GOP
Apr 21, 2022, 4:12 PM
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So, you're basically saying he's a Republican version of Obama.
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Re: DeSantis is seemingly Putinesque. Will the national GOP
Apr 21, 2022, 4:20 PM
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You know, although I could argue around the edges, I’m not going to outright deny that.
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Re: DeSantis is seemingly Putinesque. Will the national GOP
Apr 21, 2022, 5:16 PM
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Yeah, I definitely see the Orban similarity.
It just won't work here, though. America is too diverse and it'll go massively south, and there's too many institutions and powerful states that simply will not bend over when a soft Fascist tries to gerrymander America into one-party oblivion. Sorry, there is no world in which you're going to be able to continue to control California and New York from Lexington, Kentucky...or even Tallahassee or Austin. (Especially since Austin went 71.4% Dem last election itself.)
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Right now
Apr 21, 2022, 5:22 PM
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If I had to choose between Biden or Harris and DeSantis. That would be a pretty easy choice.
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Re: Right now
Apr 21, 2022, 5:44 PM
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The more I keep hearing GOP'ers say "DeSantis, DeSantis", the more I see a dead man walking.
You guys do realize Trump will absolutely not tolerate that, right?
Every time I mention this, I see a lot of hurried changing of the subject.
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Re: Right now
Apr 21, 2022, 5:51 PM
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I'm not a GOPer, but I don't think Trump has a shot at the GOP nomination. The only people I have talked with that believe Trump will win the GOP nomination are leftists.
If the Dems want a shot (unless Trump does win the nomination), they will not run Harris or Biden and will try to find someone in that party that is not too coo coo left.
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Re: Right now
Apr 21, 2022, 6:09 PM
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Trump and Desantis will, barring heart attack or stroke from either one of them, have a bare-knuckle, no holds barred cage match during the 2024 Republican primary season. Pass the Cheetos and the meth pipe ... I'm getting worked up!
But as far as Trump 'killing off' his rival Desantis ... that ain't happening.
The federal bureaucracy hates all outsiders, and they hate Trump even more than they hated Jimmy Carter back in 1976, and again in 1980. That's some SERIOUS hate, I tell you what! The MSM goes along with the bureaucrats and spouts propaganda according to the bureaucracy's wishes.
The Federal bureaucracy wants candidates that they understand. To paraphrase the words of Breaking Bad's Don Eladio (after he had Gus Fring's science guy killed by the swimming pool), 'you are alive only because I know who you are.' Fed Bureaucracy can tolerate those who they 'know' but not those who they 'don't know.' They don't 'know' Donald Trump.
DJT has no support from the bureaucracy; regardless of whether DJT had only mild intentions for retribution against Desantis, the bureaucracy wouldn't carry them out.
J.Stalin's power was solely because he had gotten control of the Soviet Union's bureaucracy. Xi Jinping has control (for the moment) of P.R.China's bureaucracy (including the PRC military).
Trotsky? He didn't have the support of the bureaucracy despite his populist appeal. Although a good talker, things didn't work out too well for Trotsky.
Trump is to the USA what Trotsky was to Soviet Union. Both were popular with the public; neither had the bureaucracy's backing.
As for popular opinion, whomever survives the Republican primary will get overwhelming Republican voter support against a Democrat ticket which features either Biden, Harris, or H.Clinton. Trump from the sidelines won't make a shizz of difference.
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Re: Right now
Apr 21, 2022, 6:17 PM
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I imagine this like a Seinfeld plot...
Apr 21, 2022, 6:03 PM
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Guy that sounds like Rabbi Glickman wants to go after Disney. Why?
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Re: I imagine this like a Seinfeld plot...
Apr 21, 2022, 6:06 PM
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Political move. He's trying to get the far left to start yelling louder.
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I wonder how the Floridians he's hurting will like that...
Apr 21, 2022, 6:29 PM
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I'm sure the trumpers in the state will be fine with paying the price if it means it supposedly "owns the libs" which is why they're such an easy target for conmen like Trump and others.
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Re: I wonder how the Floridians he's hurting will like that...
Apr 21, 2022, 6:30 PM
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What price are they paying?
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Opinion piece:
Apr 21, 2022, 7:17 PM
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https://www.mediaite.com/opinion/conservative-media-cheering-desantis-crackdown-on-disney-are-ignoring-what-a-catastrophe-it-would-be-for-florida/
Snippets:
"That means that Orange and Osceola would be on the hook for Disney’s $2 billion bond debt, which figures out to an additional tax bill for each county taxpayer estimated to be between $2,200 and $2,800 per family of four."
"Another major problem, that attorney said, was that RCID has a higher pay scale and benefits for its workers as compared to their government employee counterparts. The counties would have to “frantically try and rehire all those people” in this tough job market. Many would understandably be reluctant to return to their old jobs for reduced pay and benefits.
That would leave the counties choosing between an array of terrible choices: refuse to raise pay for former RCID workers and be majorly understaffed, raise the pay for all county workers to RCID levels and annihilate their budget, or attempt to pay RCID workers what they were getting and face strong opposition and almost certainly lawsuits from the fire union and other public employee unions over the pay gap.
RCID also contracts with the Orange and Osceola County Sheriff’s Offices and the Florida Highway Patrol for law enforcement; if you get arrested on Disney property, it’s one of these cops slapping the cuffs on you. The multimillion dollar contracts include both direct arrangements with the agencies to provide police services and to hire a large number of off-duty deputies for additional security. Disney pays those off-duty cops a higher hourly rate than the minimum required under their union contract, and they will not want to give up that lucrative side gig.
Essentially, the repeal of RCID would be a war on tens of thousands of first responders and blue collar workers, resulting in many losing their jobs and even more having their pay and benefits reduced."
"An Osceola County employee told Mediaite that their county suffered one of the highest unemployment rates in the country when Disney shut down during the pandemic, and their tax revenues had still not recovered to pre-pandemic levels. Anything that hurts the hospitality industry hurts everyone in the state, he said, and that’s especially true for Osceola, which, unlike Orlando and Orange County is mostly rural outside of the Disney corridor and even more heavily dependent on tourist dollars."
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Re: I wonder how the Floridians he's hurting will like that...
Apr 21, 2022, 6:44 PM
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FL will get more tax revenue and Disney ain't going anywhere as a result of Desantis removing Disney's special tax advantage.
So Floridians will be getting a financial benefit from the move (i.e., more tax money from the Big Bad Corporations).
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Get Ready
Apr 21, 2022, 7:42 PM
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There is a LOT more where this came from. The right is sick and tired of the left's bullchit. We will play by the rules of the democrats - if it serves the higher purpose we are after, then it must be done regardless of the legality and morality of it.
Watch very carefully over the next several years and just remember we have been watching this BS for decades.
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Re: Get Ready
Apr 21, 2022, 7:53 PM
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Re: Get Ready
Apr 22, 2022, 12:33 AM
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Hey, don’t drag the entire right into your fascist wet dream.
And what is this higher purpose you speak of…final solution or just symbolic genocide where people you don’t like simply no longer have a voice?
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