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Dershowitz "Shocked" How Far the Left Is 'Stretching

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Posted: Jul 17, 2017, 11:15 AM
 

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2017/07/17/dershowitz-shocked-how-far-the-left-is-talking-about-treason-with-no-evidence-n2355809

“I’m shocked as a civil libertarian, and a criminal lawyer and a liberal at how liberals are, some of them at least, prepared to stretch existing laws, talk about treason, talk about other kinds of crimes that just don’t exist when it comes to the facts as we know them about this meeting,” he said.

Pirro followed up, asking if receiving valuable information from a foreign national could be prosecuted under campaign finance laws.

“Of course not,” replied Dershowitz. “If it were to be prosecuted the First Amendment would trump. A candidate has a right to get information from whatever source the information comes."

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said last week that after the latest revelations about the meeting Donald Trump Jr. had with a Russian lawyer, that there was now “cold hard evidence of … the Trump family eagerly intending to collude possibly, with Russia … to influence American elections.”

Dershowitz offered some clarification.

"Collusion is not a crime unless it’s committing a criminal act."

"It’s inconceivable that anybody with knowledge of the Constitution or American history would argue a private citizen by securing information from for a campaign created treason,” he explained.

“It’s so dangerous to democracy to throw around these criminal law terms and accuse people willy-nilly,” he added.







The willy-nilly Democrats and MSM.

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He has a point, but


Posted: Jul 17, 2017, 11:25 AM
 

just because "collusion" isn't illegal, doesn't mean the public corruption is somehow legal or acceptable. There are broad sets of laws at play, including campaign finance and computer fraud, here.

Beyond the Trump campaign---do *you* want foreign governments interacting with US politicians, passing along information that was obtained illegally??

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have we ever figured out why the NSA was hacking our

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Posted: Jul 17, 2017, 11:29 AM
 

election systems as reported by at least 3 states.

I'm wayyyyyyyyyyyy more concerned about that than a country giving dirt on an opponent, if that did even happen.

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Are you talking about the DHS complaint here in Georgia?


Posted: Jul 17, 2017, 11:46 AM
 

That one didn't happen.

http://www.hstoday.us/briefings/daily-news-analysis/single-article/dhs-ig-probe-finds-dhs-did-not-hack-georgia-computers/f36d33aa02d5b1d0df296df0317744e6.html

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Also, you're presenting a false choice.


Posted: Jul 17, 2017, 11:47 AM
 

You can care about federal government meddling and foreign governments, at the same time.

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wait, DHS says DHS didnt hack? lol


Posted: Jul 17, 2017, 12:12 PM
 

I heard Clinton say Clinton did not have relations with that woman, Monica.

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Well,


Posted: Jul 17, 2017, 12:32 PM
 

the Georgia Secretary of State admitted it as well, after the DHS findings were made public. Maybe that would persuade you, since he's the republican that requested the inquiry.

Or, you could continue to believe something that's proven false. Your call, man.

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Most agree stretching is good after warming up or exercise.


Posted: Jul 17, 2017, 12:06 PM
 

Important to always stretch the right side as well as left side.

HTH

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Re: Dershowitz "Shocked" How Far the Left Is 'Stretching

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Posted: Jul 17, 2017, 12:20 PM
 

not the most intellectually honest lawyer out there, afterall he got OJ off.

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Is he correct here?***


Posted: Jul 17, 2017, 12:37 PM
 



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Re: Is he correct here?***


Posted: Jul 17, 2017, 12:38 PM
 

he is correct about this not being treason, but not many people are using that word. as far being shocked, he is wise enough to understand how the political game works and is just stirring the pot.

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Is it ILLEGAL?***


Posted: Jul 17, 2017, 12:58 PM
 



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Posted: Jul 17, 2017, 1:26 PM
 

Not really. The black jury did that.

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Posted: Jul 17, 2017, 9:11 PM
 

So he is a good lawyer?

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So NOW the Constitution covers foreigners?


Posted: Jul 17, 2017, 1:03 PM
 

It keeps changing.

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Re: So NOW the Constitution covers foreigners?


Posted: Jul 17, 2017, 1:25 PM
 

He's talking about Donald Jr.

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If the standard is 'is it illegal or not'

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Posted: Jul 17, 2017, 2:04 PM
 

then that's a pretty low bar.

A better question is 'is it right or wrong' to conspire with a hostile foreign government to get yourself elected to public office.

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but thats not what the libs are saying***


Posted: Jul 17, 2017, 2:05 PM
 



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So to be clear, you're saying they broke no laws.***


Posted: Jul 17, 2017, 3:08 PM
 



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Re: So to be clear, you're saying they broke no laws.***


Posted: Jul 17, 2017, 3:20 PM
 

Correct. They broke no laws. That's why we have a Special Political Prosecutor running amuck.

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I agree with Professor Dershowitz and


Posted: Jul 17, 2017, 2:04 PM
 

thats pretty much what I was saying last week. spoon? merc?

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Posted: Jul 17, 2017, 2:53 PM
 

Collude-verb

"come to a secret understanding for a harmful purpose; conspire."

What politician give a rat's #### where dirt from their opponents comes from? No evidence of a conspiracy has been submitted that I know of. The only 'understanding,' I saw what the transfer of dirt on Hillary.

The lying about all this is the real crime. I don't like being lied to by a sitting POTUS. I think they all lie and I'm not ever happy with that.

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Flynn & Kushner have some legal jeopardy. Everything else ..


Posted: Jul 17, 2017, 4:00 PM
 

Is speculation for our entertainment.

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What is their legal jeopardy? Specifically what law are


Posted: Jul 17, 2017, 4:24 PM
 

they being accused of violating?

Oh my goodness, can you imagine the son or son in law of Trump being found guilty of a crime? The pardon would come in about three seconds.

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