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All-TigerNet [10887]
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Democrats had 50 years and multiple administrations where
Jun 24, 2022, 12:45 PM
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they controlled the Presidency, House, and Senate. Why didn't they make abortion legal at the federal level?
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People underestimated the extremism of the Republican Party.
Jun 24, 2022, 12:49 PM
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Something tells that is about to change.
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Orange Blooded [3516]
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No…People underestimated the cruelty of the Republican Party.***
Jun 24, 2022, 12:51 PM
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Oculus Spirit [81061]
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Hall of Famer [22387]
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You are a white, male, Southern, pro-life Republican
Jun 24, 2022, 2:10 PM
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so that doesn't surprise me.
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Oculus Spirit [81061]
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Most of that is right
Jun 24, 2022, 2:14 PM
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But I'm neither pro life or pro abortion. It doesn't affect me one way or the other, really. I don't plan on any abortions in my future. Frankly, I'm not sure my swimmers even still work, which is wonderful to me. I'd probably check out one way or another a little early if I found out I was an impending parent.
But gas prices affect me and most others more so than abortion laws.
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Hall of Famer [22387]
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I would think everything you said is true of you.
Jun 24, 2022, 2:23 PM
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But, not everybody else.
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Oculus Spirit [81061]
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energy prices drive the cost of everything.
Jun 24, 2022, 2:39 PM
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From groceries to going to work. Everyone eats, and most people go to work.
Abortion laws only affect those who are pregnant, or want to no longer be pregnant.
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Hall of Famer [22387]
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"Abortion laws only affect those who are pregnant, or want
Jun 24, 2022, 2:44 PM
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to no longer be pregnant." Ugh!
That is not a statement that I would have expected from you. You are usually more thoughtful than that.
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Oculus Spirit [81061]
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Do they affect you differently?***
Jun 24, 2022, 2:48 PM
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Well that makes no sense....
Jun 24, 2022, 12:52 PM
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you're suggesting that the democrats didn't realize the GOP was largely pro-life. Considering it was dang-near a litmus test for any candidate for office or the bench, that's hard to believe.
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Hall of Famer [22387]
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They didn't think the Supreme Court would actually overturn
Jun 24, 2022, 1:00 PM
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Roe v. Wade. It appears that Joe Manchin was quite surprised.
Judging from the comments on this board, it looks like even extremist Republicans are a bit concerned about the blowback and trying to downplay where the states are headed with this issue.
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All-In [31893]
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They didn't? What were all of the protests ...
Jun 24, 2022, 1:06 PM
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on all of Trump's (and Bush's) appointees about then?
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Hall of Famer [22387]
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Did those protests represent the thinking of all Democrats?
Jun 24, 2022, 1:53 PM
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And pro-choice Independents and Republicans for that matter.
Did the Jan 6th attack on the Capitol and the efforts to overturn the election represent the thinking of all Republicans?
Not sure how you make that leap.
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All-In [31893]
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Well no, but it's not a leap either...
Jun 24, 2022, 2:20 PM
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if you don't think abortion protection was an issue for every judge that came up, then we probably don't have much to discuss 'cause we're on different planes here.
Do you really think dem fundraising campaigns haven't played up the GOP desire to overturn Roe v Wade over the past many decades?
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Hall of Famer [22387]
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Is that what I said? "People underestimated the extremism
Jun 24, 2022, 2:38 PM
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of the Republican Party. I have a feeling that is about to change."
That means that more people now understand that this was a real threat to happen, not the hysterical rantings of a few protesters. It only became a real possibility when Justice Ginsburg died a year and a half ago. The concurrence of Justice Thomas in this decision with his suggestion that they are coming for contraception, same sex relationships and same sex marriage will probably come as a surprise to many as well.
I would agree with you that they should have seen this coming.
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The problem is the USSC justices bald faced lied
Jun 24, 2022, 2:13 PM
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when asked about RvW. The previous two that are being discussed flat out said Roe v. Wade is law and they have no intentions of changing it.
When really they were more like
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Re: The problem is the USSC justices bald faced lied
Jun 24, 2022, 2:19 PM
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Video link, please. Not some silly hodge podge of edits. But a link where this was actually said. I have watched a to of Senate hearings and confirmations, and have never once heard a supreme court nominee say how they would rule on a particular issue.
Calling ######## on that
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All-TigerNet [10887]
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Re: Democrats had 50 years and multiple administrations where
Jun 24, 2022, 1:04 PM
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Also, based on the responses here, people think that overturning r v w has made abortion illegal.
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Re: Democrats had 50 years and multiple administrations where
Jun 24, 2022, 1:31 PM
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13 states already have trigger laws that will ban abortion immediately. Fortunately, they are poor, southern states that are already running huge deficits.
Notice how Florida is not one of them. Good for our economy as lots of reproductive tourism will line this state's coffers.
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Re: Democrats had 50 years and multiple administrations where
Jun 24, 2022, 1:38 PM
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Idaho,Utah,Wyoming, North Dakota, South Dakota, Missouri are southern states?
Texas is poor?
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Heisman Winner [111576]
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Re: Democrats had 50 years and multiple administrations where
Jun 24, 2022, 1:43 PM
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North Dokatda is not poor?, news to me, Also Missippii, Kentucky, Arkansas, Tennessee. And this is a Silly thing to argue overRons.
And Texas runs a huge deficit.
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All-TigerNet [12592]
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Re: Democrats had 50 years and multiple administrations where
Jun 24, 2022, 2:00 PM
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Not arguing Tbalm. Florida is in fine shape, however second only to TX in holding the least debt.
NY,NJ,CA could take a fiscal lesson or two from FL and TX.
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All-TigerNet [10887]
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