Dabo inherited a 3-3 team that had just been blown out

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Apr 12, 2013, 3:39 PM

What Spurrier Faced Upon Becoming Florida HC:

Charley Pell was hired as Florida's new head football coach for 1979. Pell came from Clemson University, where he had led the Tigers to a 10-1 record and an Atlantic Coast Conference (ACC) championship in 1978. In 1982, Clemson's program was put on NCAA probation for rules violations that had begun under Pell's watch. This would prove prophetic. Charley Pell would help build the best teams Florida football history to that point, but at the price of scandal and severe NCAA sanctions.

Due to reports of serious recruiting and other NCAA rule violations committed by Pell and his staff, he resigned in August 1984 effective at the end of the season. But when the university received an official list of 107 alleged major infractions in mid-September, university president Marshall Criser fired Pell, effective immediately. Offensive coordinator Galen Hall, who had just arrived from Oklahoma and was not involved with the rule violations, was named interim head coach beginning with the fourth game of the season. Hall rallied his players after a 1–1–1 start to win eight straight games and a 9–1–1 record. The 1984 team was ineligible for a bowl game because of NCAA probation, and to the shock and dismay of the team and fans, the SEC university presidents voted to retroactively vacate the Gators' SEC championship in the spring of 1985.

Though they never had a losing season, Hall's subsequent teams did not match his early success, mainly due to severe scholarship penalties levied on the program.

Despite intermittent success, the Florida football program had never been considered a consistent national power, having never officially won a conference championship in eighty-three seasons of play. Things changed in 1990: Steve Spurrier returned to Gainesville as the Gators' Head Ball Coach. In the debut game of Spurrier's Gators, they blew past the Oklahoma State Cowboys 50–7. In their second game, they came from behind to beat the Alabama Crimson Tide 17–13 in Tuscaloosa. Since Spurrier's return in 1990, the Gators football team has been the winningest Division I (FBS) program.[2]

In Spurrier's first season, the Gators finished first in the SEC for the third time, but for the third time, they topped their conference during a season in which they were ineligible for the SEC title due to NCAA probation. They won their first official SEC championship in 1991, fifty-nine seasons after joining the SEC as a charter member. The Gators played for the conference championship in the first-ever SEC Championship Game in 1992, but lost 28–21 to the eventual national champion Alabama Crimson Tide. Spurrier's Gators rebounded, however, and won the next four SEC Championship Games (1993–1996).

What Dabo Faced Upon Becoming Clemson HC:

During Bowden's tenure, the Tigers were bowl eligible every season but didn't win any ACC championships.

The 2000 Tigers started 8–0 and rose as high as #5 in the polls before losing three of their last four. The same thing happened during the 2006 season following a 7–1 start and with the team on the verge of winning the ACC Atlantic Division. The Tigers have also shown great resolve at points during Bowden's tenure. The 2003 team won four games at the end of the season to finish 9–4, which included victories over #3 Florida State and #7 Tennessee in the Chick-Fil-A Peach Bowl. The 2004 season saw the Tigers start 1–4 only to win five of their last six games (which included an overtime upset of #10 Miami), while the 2005 team overcame a 2–3 start to finish the season 9–4.

Tommy Bowden agreed to resign for $3.5 million on October 13, 2008, after leading the team to a disappointing 3–3 record (1–2 ACC) at the midpoint of a season in which the Tigers were an almost unanimous preseason pick to win their first ACC title under Bowden and were ranked #9 in the preseason polls. Assistant coach Dabo Swinney was named interim head coach.[

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Bowden did that for every high level player he recruited. Justin Miller, James Davis. Bowden took over for West and the situation was bad. he took us to upper mediocrity, and that was as high as he got. No division championships. No conference championships. No 10 win seasons. No major bowls. Losing bowl record. In 9 years, he achieved nothing really other than a winning record overall and against SCU. Dabo has 3 division championships in 4 years(won or tied), 1 conference championship. A BCS bowl birth. 2, 10 win seasons. And riddle me this, was the situation Spurrier took over better than what Bowden inherited? In fact, it was not much different than from what Dabo inherited. A program that had risen to upper level mediocrity. 2, 9 win seasons in the previous 4 years and 2 big bowl wins(at least for them) in that same time period.

You can try all you like but their is no number other than our record against the chickens that Bowden outperformed Dabo. And those teams Bowden faced at SCU were nowhere close to the last 2 Dabo has faced there

Interesting comparison between Dabo and Steve; First 4 Years

A class of CU players graduated 0-4 against them.

It sure feels like the worm turned when we let them win

One word...

^^^THIS***

From The sideline I remembered Thinking Tommy Set up da bomb***

And jacka$$ was 1-3 vs the Tigers his first 4 years!!

Absolutely!!!***

Re: A class of CU players graduated 0-4 against them.

Good perspective...point for you***

But the ole Sack was playing in the SEC.

Re: But the ole Sack was playing in the SEC.

The ol sack plays in the $ec EZ division***

What were the state of the programs?

Here is a little cut and paste of what I'm talking about....

It's Spurrier's first four years at SC not FL...

Re: It's Spurrier's first four years at SC not FL...

Huh? Dabo has won 9 games 3 times in 4 years

We won 9 games twice in Bowden's 9 years

excuse me, 3 times, but again, how is that consistent?***

Re: excuse me, 3 times, but again, how is that consistent?***

Re: We won 9 games twice in Bowden's 9 years

Very I N T E R E S T I N G...except 4 repeat to Stevie!

The 4 straight losses are indeed Dabo's big blemish

Re: Dabo inherited a 3-3 team that had just been blown out

If the talent was there, then the coaching sure wasn't

Re: If the talent was there, then the coaching sure wasn't

I'm sure Dabo did that without Bowden's blessing, right?

Here is something to ponder...

Re: Interesting comparison between Dabo and Steve; First 4 Years

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lol, yeah, it was the metal lockers that cost Bowden his job

Re: lol, yeah, it was the metal lockers that cost Bowden his job

Split division?

Re: Split division?

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