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D. Watson.......4.89 forty?
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D. Watson.......4.89 forty?


Jul 2, 2013, 1:09 PM

Results from the Monday’s SPARQ..... For recruiting analysts, the SPARQ competition is one of the highlights of the year because it provides accurate measurements -- which often conflict mythical claims by a recruit or his high school coach. The SPARQ is the real deal.

•Gainesville QB Deshaun Watson, 6-3, 190, 4.89 seconds, 34.2 inches (Committed to Clemson)

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Re: D. Watson.......4.89 forty?


Jul 2, 2013, 1:11 PM

Seen him on film... he can run faster than me. Therefor he is faster than a 4.7

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Jul 2, 2013, 1:17 PM



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7th fastest QB there.


Jul 2, 2013, 1:31 PM [ in reply to Re: D. Watson.......4.89 forty? ]

Now you know the power of electronic timing vs hand timing. And BTW, he was faster than UGA's QB commit, Jacob Park (FYI). Ouch.

Jerrod Heard 2014 QB 4.59
Will Grier 2014 QB 4.73
Keller Chryst 2014 QB 4.75
Luke Rubenzer 2014 QB 4.76
Manny Wilkins 2014 QB 4.87
Kyle Allen 2014 QB 4.87
De Shaun Watson 2014 QB 4.89
Jacob Park 2014 QB 4.91
K.J. Carta Samuels 2014 QB 4.92
Andrew Ford 2014 QB 4.93
De Shone Kizer 2014 QB 4.96
Morgan Mahalak 2014 QB 4.98
David Blough 2014 QB 5.02
David Cornwell 2014 QB 5.04
Sean White 2014 QB 5.05
Drew Barker 2014 QB 5.13
Stephen Collier 2014 QB 5.23

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"Stalwart universities—Harvard, Princeton, Yale—most certainly offer status. The Citadel offers character. "


He is right in line with the other Q.B.'s


Jul 2, 2013, 1:33 PM

Heard is the only one that stands out as being fast. once you get past him you're just dealing with form more than anything. You lose a bunch of time in the 40 if you don't know how to start properly, or if you don't have excellent form through the entire run and lean at the finish. That's why guys train so hard on form before the combine. 4.89 with no form training is still fairly fast.

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Re: D. Watson.......4.89 forty?


Jul 2, 2013, 1:14 PM

No wonder UGA don't want him

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Re: D. Watson.......4.89 forty?


Jul 2, 2013, 1:15 PM

That would rank him #7 out of 18 QBs. Only one QB ran under 4.7 and that was a 4.59. 4 below a 4.8. I think he will do just fine.

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Just fine? What DE is he going to out run?


Jul 2, 2013, 1:24 PM

Most teams have DE/DTs that run faster 40's.

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Re: Just fine? What DE is he going to out run?


Jul 2, 2013, 1:44 PM

Oh but if it wasn't measured by SPARQ it' s not "the real deal". Or did I misunderstand you?

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Re: D. Watson.......4.89 forty?


Jul 2, 2013, 1:20 PM

Jacob Park ---- 4.91?

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Jul 2, 2013, 1:30 PM

he's got a better arm that watson and he's a pro-style qb. A duel threat qb should have better speed....come on.

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Is that so? Hmm...***


Jul 2, 2013, 1:52 PM





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Re: Is that so? Hmm...***


Jul 2, 2013, 2:25 PM

Dont confuse the "DWAG" with facts.

This seems to indicate he's was rated a better QB when mobility was left out of the equation too.

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football-recruiting/2013/7/1/4484570/surprising-initial-elite-11-quarterback-list-released

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Is this smack talk? He's listed as 4.95 on our Recruiting


Jul 2, 2013, 1:23 PM

page.

Are you insinuating that a 4.89 40 should somehow disappoint us? If so, I guess your Dawgs won't be recruiting him anymore.

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Re: Is this smack talk? He's listed as 4.95 on our Recruiting


Jul 2, 2013, 1:26 PM

no....but not exactly the speed demon you want playing QB for Morris' offensive.....amirite?

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LOL what do you think Tajh runs? I guarantee you


Jul 2, 2013, 1:28 PM

DW is faster than Boyd and he gets it done just fine in Morris's scheme.

Your reaching bro.

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Tajh is faster than DW and was faster in HS. Thats not important


Jul 2, 2013, 1:35 PM

since we want a QB that can get 3-8 yards on a pickup when the coverage is too focused on the pass leaving him open. Decision making is what is key.

If speed was such a big factor for our offense Chad Kelly wouldn't be so highly regarded of a pick up for us, since he is much slower than TB or DW.

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One of the reasons Morris was so high on Chad Kelly is due


Jul 2, 2013, 3:05 PM

to his speed.

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He's not even a senior in high school


Jul 2, 2013, 1:29 PM [ in reply to Re: Is this smack talk? He's listed as 4.95 on our Recruiting ]

Plus he'll probably redshirt. That's a MINIMUM of 2 years before the kid even sees a snap. It's not like he's about to replace Boyd next season.

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No, you're not right.


Jul 2, 2013, 1:29 PM [ in reply to Re: Is this smack talk? He's listed as 4.95 on our Recruiting ]

His offense isn't predicated on a quarterback who will outrun everyone on the field.

It requires a QB who can make good decisions, get the ball to his receivers, and pull it down to pick up 5 to 10 yards. This isn't a triple option system requiring a QB who can constantly get to the edge.

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and yet Boyd was CU's 2nd leading rusher last season.


Jul 2, 2013, 1:34 PM

@ 4.89 watson won't outrun anyone on the field. i'm calling BS here.

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Chad Kelly had a 5.05 40.


Jul 2, 2013, 1:36 PM

And one of his main strengths recruiting wise was his elusiveness. Haven't been able to see it on the field since he had a RS and this recent injury, but 40 time doesn't necessarily translate to this type of scheme.

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Call BS all you want


Jul 2, 2013, 1:41 PM [ in reply to and yet Boyd was CU's 2nd leading rusher last season. ]

But I'm gonna guess folks here who watched every game know way more about how our offense is run than you do.

The bulk of his yardage were on designed keepers up the middle going for 5 to 10 yards, and the occasional get outside and pull the ball down and get some yardage plays. He lowered his head and picked up 2 or 3 extra yards on pretty much every play.

The QB position in the offense needs a mobile QB, not speedster.

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I can tell this is really important to you. So,


Jul 2, 2013, 2:23 PM [ in reply to and yet Boyd was CU's 2nd leading rusher last season. ]

do you think Morris didn't know Watson's 40 time when he recruited him? Or do you think he's just not clear on how to run his own offense?

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I'm guessing no, you're wrong. My evidence:


Jul 2, 2013, 1:32 PM [ in reply to Re: Is this smack talk? He's listed as 4.95 on our Recruiting ]

1) We know his 40 speed.
2) We offered him.

Appreciate your concern, though.

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Cuz ya know, quarterbacks need to be able to outrace Sammy..


Jul 2, 2013, 1:24 PM

Seriously.

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Cam Newton wasnt exactly the fastest QB either


Jul 2, 2013, 1:24 PM

but he still made defenders look stupid trying to tackle him

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Re: Cam Newton wasnt exactly the fastest QB either


Jul 2, 2013, 1:27 PM

plus he was 240 lbs.

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and still made people look stupid


Jul 2, 2013, 1:45 PM

my point was that there is more to football than speed, Dwayne Allen's response to being criticized about his 40 time at the NFL draft combine was that he "I'm not a track guy, Im a football player"

Watson has put up jaw dropping stats his past few seasons. His past 2 years he's put up over 7000 passing yards and over 2500 rushing yards and a total of 131 TD's

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See all the results here.


Jul 2, 2013, 1:28 PM

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football-recruiting/2013/7/1/4484646/full-nike-sparq-combine-results-the-opening-2013

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"Stalwart universities—Harvard, Princeton, Yale—most certainly offer status. The Citadel offers character. "


Wow, that's wild. Those times are slooooooow compared


Jul 2, 2013, 1:31 PM

to what we usually see with hand timed 40s.

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Jul 2, 2013, 1:29 PM

He is a quarterback. He dosent have to be extremely fast to have successs.

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Jul 2, 2013, 1:39 PM

Which is why I pay about 0% attention to hand timed 40 times.

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"Stalwart universities—Harvard, Princeton, Yale—most certainly offer status. The Citadel offers character. "


Misleading


Jul 2, 2013, 1:31 PM

That is without pads and a bunch of huge fast guys trying to hurt you. I say he is faster in a game....period!

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Oh no!! We should pull his offer 'cause some anonymous


Jul 2, 2013, 1:32 PM

tool from UGAy thinks he's slow!

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Here's what matters....


Jul 2, 2013, 1:42 PM

#1 QB recruit in the nation

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/rankings/rank-3235

someone is a little butt hurt.

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Re: Here's what matters....


Jul 2, 2013, 1:50 PM

The #1 qb recruit in the nation runs a 4.8. You really think this is guidelines for trash talk? Stupid post bro.

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Re: Here's what matters....


Jul 2, 2013, 1:51 PM

Didn't mean to reply to your post 08.

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then disregard previous response...***


Jul 2, 2013, 1:53 PM



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"No one knew we were overhyped until the season started." - Classof09


were you trying to make a point ?


Jul 2, 2013, 1:52 PM [ in reply to Re: Here's what matters.... ]

The fact that we have the #1 QB recruit in the nation and you sec homers are trying to downplay it is a joke.

btw, not your bro, guy.

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"No one knew we were overhyped until the season started." - Classof09


Re: were you trying to make a point ?


Jul 2, 2013, 2:39 PM

I was responding to the OP not you. I accidentally responded to yours on accident.

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And the last guy to win National Championship ran a 8.43


Jul 2, 2013, 2:20 PM

Spin it leg humper. Go ahead.

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Then you may want to worry about Jacob Park's 68.13


Jul 2, 2013, 2:23 PM

It looks like the UGA QB commit had the worst rating of everyone participating.

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What's his shuttle?***


Jul 2, 2013, 2:23 PM



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Re: D. Watson.......4.89 forty?


Jul 2, 2013, 2:43 PM

He must be pretty good because your dogs wouldn't be recruiting him. Oh by the way an a** kicking is coming to your dogs on August 31st!

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Faster than your kicker can swim


Jul 2, 2013, 3:06 PM

I hear Marshall Morgan swam a 5.00 flat trying to get away from the cops.

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Cornwell supposedly #1 QB in nation: 5.04***


Jul 2, 2013, 3:21 PM

,

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He's also 6'5" 235# and a Pro style QB. ******


Jul 2, 2013, 4:19 PM



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Trent Dilfer


Jul 2, 2013, 3:30 PM

said that Watson is the most college ready QB out of everyone at the Elite 11 because of his mobility

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Brad Brownell: more losses than any other coach in school history.


We don't take kindly to electronic timing in these parts. *****


Jul 2, 2013, 3:35 PM



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