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Anyone know anything about Duke TIP?
Mar 15, 2016, 12:55 PM
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My son (12 yo) is eligible for the program and took the ACT last month. Based on his score, he has been invited to apply for the their Academy of Summer Studies. It would be 3 weeks at one of 3 colleges - none local. He doesn't want to give up 3 weeks of his summer for school.
I'm wondering, at his age (7th grade), will something like this give him an advantage when it comes time to apply for college, or is 7th grade too early for that type of consideration? Do I need to push/make him do it?
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Our resident Duke expert is
Mar 15, 2016, 1:01 PM
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@cutigerbob
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let's be clear GWP... he's an expert on Duke.. not the
Mar 15, 2016, 1:02 PM
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Re: let's be clear GWP... he's an expert on Duke.. not the
Mar 15, 2016, 2:25 PM
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Wait I've heard he's an expert on the "tip", not duke....
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Both my sons are in the program and love it
Mar 15, 2016, 1:05 PM
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It's worth it ! It's quite an academic honor and achievement worth the time and effort involved. However my boys aren't at the age yet to answer just how much it will end up helping in terms of scholarships but supposedly it helps.
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my son qualified, wanted to play baseball instead. I
Mar 15, 2016, 1:09 PM
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looked at it like, he gets enough school, let him be a kid.
Went to Clemson, made the deans list, got a job with Deloitte.
But, whatever works for you. Mine would have hated it and been totally po'ed had I made him go.
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I have a daughter who had opportunities with Duke
Mar 15, 2016, 1:10 PM
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TIPS. She took that SAT and did well, but we elected not to do the summer classes due to other scheduled activities. In our case, I don't regret the decision. From what I have been told, the key is just do to well on the tests and then the kids essentially are on college lists and tracked until graduation. I think the summer program helps when your child is gifted, but is not around many other gifted kids (possibly a rural area with less resources). It allows exposure to similar kids and opportunities in education that they may not be aware of. My child was already in a great school where admission was based on other test scores. So, in our case we didn't see the benefit.
It could be a great experience though, I just don't know.
Just my 2 cents. Good luck!
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My daughter was in program
Mar 15, 2016, 1:33 PM
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excellent opportunity and can only help when applying to college. it served her quite well. now if i can just get her to choose clemson vs chapel hill - tall task
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Duke TIP is basically....
Mar 15, 2016, 1:34 PM
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a program whose goal is to identify gifted middle school aged children across the Southeastern and Midwestern states. The kids will get a medal and certificate and if they score high enough on the SAT, they will have the opportunity to participate in Duke TIP Summer Studies, eStudies, Field Work, and other educational studies (at a significant cost of course).
Both of my girls (one of whom was class valedictorian and the other finish in the top 10 of her class), qualified to participate in the program. One did it, the other did not.
I wouldn't say that it helped them academically or qualified them for more scholarships than they would have earned on their own merit anyway. What it did do was help them understand the importance of the SAT and ACT tests
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Let your son know how proud you are of him for
Mar 15, 2016, 1:40 PM
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his school accomplishments and earning the Duke TIPS opportunity. Unless your son is a brainiac and just loves/wants the extra schooling (i.e., that's his hobby), his 7th grade nomination for TIPS won't matter at all come college application/acceptance and scholarship time. Both my kids had the TIPS opportunity but passed on it (saved me some bucks), continued to do well in school while also enjoying a social life, and both got scholarship offers from several schools. (Guess what I'm saying is you don't need TIPS to get there.) It's an honor to be selected but it is also partly a money maker for Duke. It will get him on college mailing lists early. What smart kid doesn't like getting college info mail?!. Congratulations on having a bright one and if he wants to follow through the TIPS program, great. If he's bright and also has other interests, that's great too. You're a lucky father.
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^^^ a very fair and accurate assessment IMO ^^^***
Mar 15, 2016, 1:43 PM
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Re: Her son can be in the Duke TIP program without participating
Mar 15, 2016, 3:38 PM
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Yep I was in the TIP program and never did the summer thing.
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I'm not that familiar with the Academy of Summer Studies. My
Mar 15, 2016, 1:41 PM
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daughter was in the Duke TIP program from about 6th grade on and participated in a 3-4 week online literature (or English composition) course, but I think that was the summer after her junior year of high school. Of course, having that on her resume didn't hurt when she applied to Duke.
However, your son is still young, so I wouldn't push too hard at this point.
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Re: Anyone know anything about Duke TIP?
Mar 15, 2016, 2:15 PM
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Very helpful Tnet peeps. Thanks!
He's a very bright kid who isn't very academically challenged right now and I fear that is going to become an issue soon. He's very into sports - plays football, basketball, and alternates spring baseball and soccer. He's become bored with school (like most kids) and I think the only reason he is bothering to keep his grades up right now is because he knows sports will go away if he doesn't. So, as a Mom, I just wonder if I need to take these opportunities to challenge him academically.
I'll let him pass if he doesn't want to do it. Heck, it saves me $4k. Maybe he'll standout at Dabo Swinney football camp this Summer and open some more doors.
Thanks everyone! Even you, @GWPTiger®, for putting in a call to bob.
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When he gets to high school, take full advantage of the
Mar 15, 2016, 3:33 PM
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AP or IB program offerings there. Those college credits can add up and it's like a scholarship of sorts, allows one to bypass some of the early crap you otherwise have to take those first two years and of which some of it is a hassle and time sink (e.g., English Comp or Lit and other liberal studies stuff - unless he's into that), can possibly graduate early or take a lighter load or take some classes of an advanced or enjoyment nature that there is otherwise no time for if you don't have some credits entering college, .... Also, extra curricular activities, including sports, and demonstrated leadership skills like holding a officer position in a club, etc., and community service are important to the college admissions officers and the scholarship selection committees. You don't necessarily have to be the valedictorian to a have a chance at landing a great scholarship.
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I endorse it ... if your child wants to go
Mar 15, 2016, 2:26 PM
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Em was a reluctant participant the first summer. The second year she had a ball. It wasn't so much to improve grades, but to allow kids to develop their creativity.
As such a kid should want to be attending, or it will all be for naught. Plus, as you can see, the medal she got made a great soda can opener!
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Both my daughters were in the Duke TIP
Mar 15, 2016, 2:45 PM
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It helped both with many social, business and a fully paid education. Lots of kids get invited but a select few take full advantage. It looks good to every school if you take advantage and seek leadership through the program. My oldest daughter graduated in December but walks in May. Encourage them to be apart of the program so they are stretched to be their best. My daughter never was in doubt about going to Clemson but the TIP pushed her to be better.
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If there's a program he's interested in then do it
Mar 15, 2016, 2:55 PM
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if not then it's a waste of time. You're only going to get out what you put into a program like that and the rewards will be more internal than external. Taking the test and doing well was the external reward, he'll probably start getting some letters from colleges and maybe even a few elite boarding high schools.
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Careful - they get you with the tip, and it's the devil
Mar 15, 2016, 3:35 PM
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to remove.
It's a good program. My son was a Duke TIPster through both math and verbal scores. Qualified for and thought about the select aerospace program in Kansas, but decided not to travel that far away for that long as a rising eighth grader. Ended up in a research-based magnet program at Spring Valley HS and got accepted early to Clemson. All's well that ends well.
My wife's cousin did the language-based program - I believe on the Duke campus - and ended up with three degrees from UGA - accounting, law, and MBA.
Certainly wouldn't hurt to at least utilize the resources available through TIP, regardless if you do the summer programs.
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Re: Anyone know anything about Duke TIP?
Mar 15, 2016, 3:37 PM
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Let the kid be a kid. He has plenty of time to worry about that stuff later on in High School.
What he does at 12 will not determine where he goes to college at 17.
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What are the minimum SAT scores needed to get invitations...
Mar 15, 2016, 3:46 PM
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...to some of these "gifted" programs? My daughter took the SAT via the TIP program recently, so I was just wondering what kind of scores some of these 7th graders make (i.e. what's average and what's gifted?).
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