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All-In [27256]
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reload vs rebuild
May 17, 2022, 8:32 AM
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Since 2015 I considered Clemson to be a reloading team. All staff was in place. The program overall was on cruise control. The departure of Jeff Scott was a huge loss, but we still had the big name to go and land high profile recruits.
After last year I think we have transitioned into a rebuilding state. All new coaches at many positions, new NIL frontier and the portal are uncharted territory. Dabo had a vision when he became head coach and it took him about 4-5 years to execute that vision. I believe he will need another 4-5 years to rebuild this new staff and program to reach the highest level of college football again.
Good news is that this time the program is so much further than when he inherited it.
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Oculus Spirit [76636]
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Your message gives me the sads…***
May 17, 2022, 8:34 AM
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Re: reload vs rebuild
May 17, 2022, 8:41 AM
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Clemson did not rebound after Jeff Scott. Trevor Lawrence won 0 titles. We had TL and won 0 after Jeff left.
Looking at the recruiting board and seeing 3 stars being hyped is the current heartbeat of Clemson football.
We have 1 year to turn things around. If they can't, 4 National Titles will have been awarded to teams that are not Clemson and the recruiting is done.
** Just my thoughts
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Re: reload vs rebuild
May 17, 2022, 8:56 AM
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This makes no sense.... we went 14-1, 10-2 and 10-3.
DW4 "only" won one title. TL won a title. We were in the CFP for the longest consecutive streak (better than bama more than 44-16).
2020 was an odd season and basically allowed a team to play without ever having to show a playbook. We played with more walk-on in the road ND game on D.
2019 was one of those lighting in a bottle filled with cash for LSU. And it was not the offense there. No fault with the offense that season. Same with 2020. Both seasons the O was carrying the defense. Only 2021 was the D carrying the lack of O
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Oculus Spirit [76636]
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Coots are incapable
May 17, 2022, 8:59 AM
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of thought. That’s on full display here by your idiotic comment that TL didn’t win a title….
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Re: reload vs rebuild
May 17, 2022, 9:21 AM
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Clemson has not won a national title,since Jeff Scott left ??
Clemson has not won a national title since Robby Caldwell left ??
Clemson has not won a national title since Danny Pearman left ??
Clemson has not won a national title since Brent Venables left ??
Clemson has not won a national title since Tony Elliot left ??
Clemson has not won a national title since Todd Bates left ??
So for your thoughts,we only have ""ONE (1) year ????? Interesting*******
As for Trevor Lawrence,winning 1 title -- Homer Jordan won 1 title and Deshaun Watson won 1 title ???
I would bet that all three (3) titles have been won with a bunch of ""hyped up 3 stars"" that were the ""heartbeat"" of Clemson Football***
I can never remember saying that Clemson recruiting ""is done"" after we won the first title, in 1981 ???? -- or when Coach Ford was let go** -- but it was 35 years, before I ever got another chance to call my Tigers ""National Champions"" then again in 2018 ______________ hope I get another chance before I ""kick tha' bucket"", but if not I can say for sure ""I was here for 3 Championships""
After your "" 1 Year "" is up, I wish you the best of luck,with your ""new team""
GO TIGERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: reload vs rebuild
May 17, 2022, 11:02 AM
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Coot ^ You chickens don’t do reading and comprehension well.
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Definitely a re-build on offense, defense ... not so much.
May 17, 2022, 8:53 AM
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The WR corps appears to be as weak overall as it’s been in like forever.
Especially when compared to the Nuk/Sammy and the Tee/Ross/Rogers squads. Tyler Grisham has his work cut out for him with the personnel he has on hand. They have to stay healthy and get better in almost every facet.
The overall QB position certainly has a lot to prove. Nobody denies that ... three former 5-star guys on the team, and still a million question marks remain here in May.
TE needs to get back to the level of Jordan Leggett at least in in receptions, if not blocking ability. We have solid players. Can we get them to produce?
RB appears to be solid for this year, but a couple of really good recruits need to be signed to avoid a big fall off next season. We need for CJ to offer them and get them signed.
OL has always been a challenge, but honestly the pieces appear to be in place. We have lots of big, highly rated bodies on the squad. Getting production out of those pieces is the key to this season and moving forward. Thomas Austin, like Tyler Grisham has a lot of work to do this fall, and he is on the spot in recruiting too with a huge highly regarded in-state OL still “thinking” over his plans. Freeling is a “must get”
Add to all this that Brandon Streeter is also feeling his way along, and it’s hard to deny that Clemson’s offense is in re-build mode from the coaches on down.
Dabo insists that the best is yet to come. I think we have to trust him.
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Re: Definitely a re-build on offense, defense ... not so much.
May 17, 2022, 9:20 AM
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While I do agree that our WR's were not up to par, I also acknowledge that they didn't have a QB who could consistently put a pass within Superman's reach. Some of that was undoubtedly sue to, once again, #### poor OL performance and DJ running for his life on every play. Plenty of blame to go around. I hope it gets fixed for this year. I don't want to watch another debacle like the one we saw last year, even though we did win 10 games. It still looked so messy!
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Re: reload vs rebuild
May 17, 2022, 8:57 AM
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We are always building. Not reloading, not rebuilding. Brick by brick every season. From scratch. Folks wondered what we would do post-Morris and we only got better. Lets look at it that way
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Honestly, I don't think it is either one. What it was, was a
May 17, 2022, 9:32 AM
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hopefully "one-off" combination of HISTORICALLY BAD QB play and major injuries to key players. If EITHER of those things had not happened last year, we probably win at least one more game.
We have all the "missing in action" pieces back this year, barring future injuries. And, we will have better play from the QB position, (because, almost by default, it HAS to be.)
The future is so bright, we may need to do like Corey Hart, and wear our sunglasses at night.
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Orange Blooded [2336]
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Re: reload vs rebuild
May 17, 2022, 10:48 AM
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Coaches are like back yards. They both get bigger over the years .
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It seems that we are reloading on defense, but rebuilding on
May 17, 2022, 11:33 AM
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offense.
Offense really concerns me, because we had major issues last year at QB, WR, and OL. The RB group was the only one that played close to the level we need to be a playoff caliber team.
I expect the offense to be better this year, but I think it's unlikely that we will have a dynamic offense based on who we have back.
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Re: reload vs rebuild
May 17, 2022, 1:07 PM
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All this is a, perhaps, inadvertent back-handed slap to the head coach. The success, the titles, the program . . . are all due to the coordinators and the assistants, not the head coach who masterminded and supervised the entire experiment.
HMMMMMM. Isn't this the same narrative used by our opponents, near and far, that Dabo is only a cheerleader and has no real football IQ.
What a crock.
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