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All-TigerNet [14488]
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College athletes should get paid?
Aug 17, 2013, 11:23 PM
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Free college tuition
Free room and board
Free meals
Free textbooks
Free clothing and gear
Free access to the best trainers, tutors, doctors, and coaches
Free cars (At UNC, among others)
Not to mention the adoration of a fanbase, and unlimited popularity around campus
All of this and more for 3-5 years, followed by a shot at a career that will pay out multi-millions in the same span of time
Anybody who thinks college athletes don't get paid is out of their freaking mind
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Re: College athletes should get paid?
Aug 17, 2013, 11:28 PM
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What would be the cost of tuition at Clemson now with room, board and textbooks for 5 years?
No student loans to pay off!
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As a recent grad from out of state, I can tell you that
Aug 17, 2013, 11:31 PM
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you don't even wanna know
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Re: College athletes should get paid?
Aug 17, 2013, 11:40 PM
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Roughly $40,000 per year out of state including living arrangements, whether on campus or off. Factor in a few thousand for food and other expenses and 5 years could be worth a quarter of a million dollars. If they are getting paid and it is any more than a small monthly stipend that isn't right.
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Orange Blooded [2394]
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They make a ton of money off of these guys. The real
Aug 17, 2013, 11:31 PM
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problem that exists ultimately is if you pay one sport this amount, than what do you pay athletes of another sport, say a sport where not a lot of revenue is brought in? Paying athletes definitely opens up a Pandora's Box.
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Yeah, the SCHOOLS make money off of them
Aug 17, 2013, 11:33 PM
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and they reward the players pretty handsomely, I'd say. Of course, the media and E$PN and everybody associated with college athletics get paid, but I mean, that's just the way it is. Not really any way around that
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Not all of them get those things...
Aug 18, 2013, 12:09 AM
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people confuse "athletes" with "football players". Many athletes in other sports either have to have their parents finance part of their educations or they have to borrow the money and leave school with tens of thousands of dollars in debt. Before football players get any more money, it's time to increase the scholarship money for baseball, soccer, tennis, and other sports, especially the men's sports. Women's sports are allowed more scholarships than the comparable men's sport.
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Re: Not all of them get those things...
Aug 18, 2013, 3:59 AM
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I understand what you're saying. I have a lot of respect for all of the athletic programs, but let's get serious. The football program gets all of those benefits for a good reason. You can't tell me that women's tennis, golf, or club lacrosse generates the revenue and national recognition than the football team does. That's just the honest truth.
I know being a college athlete is demanding, but it is still a privilege. Any fraction of a scholarship, even if it was only getting reduced to in-state tuition, would be better than nothin. I'd play basketball for Clemson for free if I had the ability to.
The football team is a business. When business is good, it gives Clemson University more national recognition and media exposure than anything else. That brings in more applications from smart, prospective students that wouldn't have heard of Clemson if not by the football team
The football team earns and deserves what they get
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Legend [15212]
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The flip side is we are forcing some of these athletes to
Aug 18, 2013, 12:11 AM
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use the "$250,000" (or whatever the figure is at a certain university) towards an education rather than paying them cash.
You and I have to have a college degree to get certain jobs and earn a living. Are we really doing a guy like Clowney, Boyd, Hopkins, etc a favor by forcing them to take Bio 101 and study for a Sociology 203 exam?
These guys are athletes. I'm just playing devil's advocate. I don't think they should be paid. But I do think that we are wasting their time.
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they
Aug 18, 2013, 12:19 AM
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can do whatever they want.
- tell them to leave hs get a job.
- go play for any of 1000 semi-pro teams.
- sign with an agent that will finance them for 3 years until they meet the nfl standard. sell it as a long term investment. i could write the agreement.
- other...
there is nothing in the nfl guidelines that requires college.
good luck to them.
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Orange Blooded [2394]
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Dead solid perfect comment, Deadsolidperfect.
Aug 18, 2013, 12:25 AM
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Hard to argue no one is forcing them to go to college if they have no desire to be there other than to play sports. If paying players in that manner became the norm, then essentially what college athletics would become is the D-League.
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Man, that's just foolish
Aug 18, 2013, 4:08 AM
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I get it. There are the Clowneys and Manziels of the NCAA. But don't you dare lump Tajh or Sammy or CJ or any Tiger in a category with dumb fools like that.
Tajh might be the most humble, down to earth athlete not named Spiller or Sproles I have ever seen. 95% of the football players on D1 rosters won't play more than a month on an NFL roster. Thousands of these guys are hard-working, smart kids who know their future won't be on the field. Look at how many ex-pros start their own business or have successful careers after they retire.
The collegee degree that you and I and Tajh and CJ get will get you an interview, but it sure as hell won't get you the job. What kind of employer would hire Doo-doo over somebody who was obviously more intelligent and capable?
C'mon man!
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Re: Well said.***
Aug 18, 2013, 2:23 AM
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Nobody ...
Aug 18, 2013, 2:56 AM
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Is forcing you to play football or basketball, it's a sport, and for very select few they can turn it in to a career...for which they're rewarded handsomely. Other sports work just as hard and take regular classes and get nothing! What's next? NFL players griping that the owners are making too much money they need more?
Give me a break, if you think the tail should wag the dog at college universities then you are a part of the idiocracy movement in America.
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No way man
Aug 18, 2013, 4:20 AM
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I'm not saying the "tail should wag the dog" at all. How is any other student-athlete at any sort of a disadvantage at all? All of the athletes on scholarship for every sport deserve them, and so they get free tuition; something 90% of America couldn't ever dream to afford. And yeah, I do agree that the other sports should get all of the benefits that the football and basketball teams get. Completely. But you can't argue that the football program has a huge influence on Clemson as anybody who's not residing in the President's house.
Don't even try to tell me that the other sports get nothing. Have you ever met any of these student athletes? They have the best grades on campus. They are honor students. They have the highest GPA's. They will all go on to have very successful careers. Gee, thanks Clemson. All you did was put my life on a Tee for me so I could pull out the Big Bertha and whack that sucker 300 yards.
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Surprisingly to some, this debate has been ongoing since
Aug 18, 2013, 6:00 AM
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I can remember, even being hotly argued back in the '60's.
Most students in those days believed the student-athletes received enough "compensation" via scholarships, and the athletes themselves rarely entered into the fray. I don't recall any that I knew saying that they deserved extra financial support.
Enter some of the more anti-athletics academia on campus, and they considered most sports to be "barbaric rituals," as I heard often. They would have either banned the activities or turned them into semi-pro types. Most people, however, disagreed.
Considering the all-out rushing and grabbing for the almighty dollar so prevalent these days, it was only a matter of time before the question of paying athletes rose its ugly head again. And, again, the NCAA fiddles, while Rome is ablaze.
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Re: College athletes should get paid?
Aug 18, 2013, 7:05 AM
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And what about the non scholarship student athlete
that participates in a sport that doesn't pay out multi-million dollar contracts,or how about the walk -on athlete who doesn't qualify for a scholarship?
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Re: College athletes should get paid?
Aug 18, 2013, 8:22 AM
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So are you saying we should do away with all non revenue sports? What about intra mural sports they should get paid too right
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Re: College athletes should get paid?
Aug 18, 2013, 9:36 AM
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So are you saying we should do away with all non revenue sports? What about intra mural sports they should get paid too right
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Its going to happen sooner or later regardless***
Aug 18, 2013, 7:51 AM
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CU Guru [1895]
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No that was crap from the beginning.***
Aug 18, 2013, 8:17 AM
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Heisman Winner [108390]
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so is paying amateur athletes.***
Aug 18, 2013, 8:21 AM
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I'll just say this
Aug 18, 2013, 8:25 AM
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I just think at some point over the next 10 years or so, there is going to be a shift in college athletics (at least football) that includes some type of monetary payment for players. That is just what I think I don't have any inside sources, don't quote me on it or write it down, its just where I see things going.
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Heisman Winner [108390]
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you wrote it down for me, why would i have to?
Aug 18, 2013, 8:33 AM
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if you think they'll address some of the rising costs, i might agree.
pay for play? i don't think so.
there's a huge difference.
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CU Guru [1895]
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I definitely don't see it as impossible as you seem to.***
Aug 18, 2013, 8:47 AM
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i noticed; i would say paying an amateur athlete pretty much
Aug 18, 2013, 8:54 AM
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means they forgo that status.
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dspkrzy pulls another link from deep in the vault...***
Aug 18, 2013, 8:46 AM
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good morning bob. happy sunday.
Aug 18, 2013, 8:55 AM
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don't be hatin.
oh,... and have a nice day.
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Oculus Spirit [96791]
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Happy Sunday to you too!
Aug 18, 2013, 9:05 AM
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You moran.
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Heisman Winner [108390]
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lol
Aug 18, 2013, 9:08 AM
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idjit.
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Pell Grants
Aug 18, 2013, 9:37 AM
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In addition to the list of compensations listed above,
many atheletes also receive Pell Grants to spend anyway they wish. I wonder how many CU atheletes
receive Pell Grants?
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if you start paying them cash,wait until the irs is involved
Aug 18, 2013, 10:46 AM
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and rules that scholarships are a taxable benefit
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Amen! How can you fear anyone, especially that bunch?***
Aug 18, 2013, 11:56 AM
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