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Clemson University has mandated that all be tested
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Clemson University has mandated that all be tested


Sep 1, 2021, 9:58 PM

each week regardless of whether they are vaccinated or not, will put us at a huge disadvantage all season long. Not even the ACC requires that. This one is on Clemson and Clements.

No other school has such strict testing requirements. It will be a disadvantage all year and that has become evident from the very first game and the biggest game. Nice going.

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Re: Clemson University has mandated that all be tested


Sep 1, 2021, 10:00 PM

RELAX dude. This is a throw away game for both schools. Loser can still easily make playoff.

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Are we the ONLY school doing this?***


Sep 1, 2021, 10:01 PM



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Re: Clemson University has mandated that all be tested


Sep 1, 2021, 10:02 PM

Lol so forget the fact that the athlete might actually have COVID….they would be competing and infecting others if it weren’t for that stupid policy.

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Davis is likely vaxxed and would not get sick. All of these


Sep 1, 2021, 10:26 PM

protocols now are to protect the selfish and idiotic unvaxxed. Vaxxed people are not getting hospitalized. All of what we are going through now with the variant is becuase we have so many selfish idiots that refused to get vaxxed. Any protocols in place now are to protect those selfish ########.

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Man you are brainwashed.


Sep 2, 2021, 3:43 AM

The data does not support that!

I find it hilarious that vaccinated people think they have to be scared of unvaccinated people. You people need to just admit you don’t believe in the apathy of the vaccine. Because if a vaccine works it doesn’t matter what other people do. If a vaccine works you don’t need a mask and you shouldn’t care if other people are vaccinated or not.

When are you people going to wake up and realize this is not a real vaccine. It’s a glorified flu shot. And now they’re talking about boosters every six months! That is insane to be pumping that much of an experimental drug that has not been properly tested into your body, especially for young people and children!

And that is the opinion of a lot of people on the left, progressives, Democrats, independent journalists , tons of doctors and scientists and researchers, including virologists an immunologists.

You are completely ignorant of the science and the data of Covid and the PCR test as well as the realities of these vaccines.


A real vaccine stops a disease. Smallpox, polio, and other diseases of the past are gone because of vaccines. And those vaccines don’t require a constant and repetitive booster shots!

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That is complete BS. You listen to too much Fox News.


Sep 2, 2021, 6:48 AM

Any unvaccinated person is trying to prove a point, but the only thing they prove is their selfish bravado puts everyone around them at risk.

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Re: That is complete BS. You listen to too much Fox News.


Sep 2, 2021, 7:23 AM

Life must seem easy when you think you can quickly surmise the motivation for the actions of > 100 million people from the comfort of your living room.

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where do you get your information


Sep 2, 2021, 9:38 AM [ in reply to Man you are brainwashed. ]

you need a new feed

it is a real vaccine, as is the flu vaccine

smh

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Re:I tell you what, get them to send you evidence that Covid


Sep 4, 2021, 10:56 AM

has been isolated from Flu. If they can not offer proof, then how the heck can they say there is some variant? Research for yourself, don't listen to some so-called expert.

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Re: Man you are brainwashed.


Sep 4, 2021, 10:17 AM [ in reply to Man you are brainwashed. ]

You continue to ignore the fact that unvaccinated people are petri dishes for new variants, that could evade vaccines. We are tired of your cut and paste posts.

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You people are brainwashed and you have been indoctrinated.


Sep 2, 2021, 2:44 AM [ in reply to Re: Clemson University has mandated that all be tested ]

Go learn about the PCR test!

There is a reason the majority of people that test positive from a PCR test are asymptomatic. Because they do not have Covid!

Do you even understand how a PCR test works?

It does not test for Covid!

It was created to test for antigens in someone’s body that has HIV. Even the creator of the PCR test said it should not be used as a diagnostic test for other viruses. Tons of experts have said it should not be used as a screening or diagnostic test and that the only people that should be getting tested are people showing symptoms!

Do you understand that the PCR test for Covid per the CDC goes up to 40 cycles. The expert consensus is that roughly 25 to 27 cycles is all you need to test. Anything over that and you’re getting basically a false positive! They don’t send the underlying data. All they send after testing is positive or negative. Without knowing how many cycles it took to get that positive the test is meaningless and worthless!

My God you people talk about science and data and you are just completely clueless and ignorant of the facts!

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Don't you get tired....and confidence....


Sep 2, 2021, 3:11 AM

Don't you get tired of posting the same thing over and over and over and over? Give it a rest. Or get a life.

Personally, I have complete confidence in Coach Swinney and his ability to manage through this. He's paid almost $10 million a year to do so and doesn't really need any help - except from the experts available to him who I'm sure are the best money can buy. He's said many times his goals are optimizing the team while always remembering the health of the young men comes first. Whether it's covid or a torn ACL or whatever....and as far as I can tell he's walked the talk. And has been pretty successful...

I somehow doubt he's depending on YouTube videos to help him manage his team....

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Actually you are factually incorrect.


Sep 2, 2021, 4:18 AM

Have you not seen the stories that have been reported by people around our athletic program that our athletes are not getting the best medical care because there are forces in our football program preventing us from getting the type of medical expertise that other programs have.

Numerous players and their families have gone to doctors outside of the program because they did not have confidence in the treatment their son was getting at Clemson. That is a fact that has been reported by multiple sources.

And I love the way you people act like “it’s just Youtube”. That is a classic “discredit the source” method whereby you discount the source because you can’t refute the information being provided by the experts.

There are award winning respected independent journalists and tons of medical and scientific experts online, especially Youtube. These people get more views for their videos than MSNBC, C NBC, CNN, and Fox News combined!

It’s people like you that love and support censorship by big tech. If YouTube wasn’t influential, if social media wasn’t influential, why would you need to have censorship?!

. I guess you think Brett Weinstein is just some flake some far right crazy. Or Sam Harris, John McWhorter, and all the other people I list on a regular basis that you should be learning from. All of these people by the way are on the left. Lifelong Democrats and progressives.

Much of what I watch on YouTube are medical symposiums that only experts in the past were allowed to attend. But now anyone can watch these on YouTube because all of these things get recorded.

MIT has an amazing YouTube channel. You can get an MIT education on many subjects free on YouTube.

Go read some articles by Alex Berenson. A lifelong democrat and liberal and award-winning journalist that used to be a science writer for the New York Times.

I post statistical analysis and data from the New York Times that’s updated daily by the CDC. I guess you think that’s just made up information.

I get tired of stupid ignorant ideological brainwashed Kool-Aid drinking people like you calling me names when I’m infinitely more informed than you and people like you.

I post real data from credible sources. Real information from respected doctors and scientists. You call me names. Which one of us sounds more informed to objective observer‘s?

And what Clemson is doing is not required by the ACC. Do you think the ACC didn’t have expert medical opinion when they created their policies? Do you seriously think Dabo supports this? I guarantee you he does not! But he’s also not going to publicly question the president of the university. The last football coach to do that, Danny Ford, got fired! And Clemson football went into a death spiral for over 20 years!

Testing people for Covid that are not showing symptoms is stupid. It is also unprecedented. And tons of experts are saying this. Clearly you have no clue how the PCR test works and why it is stupid to test people that do not have symptoms. There is a reason so many asymptomatic people test positive. Because they do not have Covid! The PCR test does not test for Covid! And if you don’t know how many cycles it took to get that positive test the test is meaningless!

What I get sick and tired of are people ignoring the real science and the real data and the facts around Covid and the PCR test and vaccines!

I know I am on the right side of history and you people will eventually be proven wrong and you will see just how stupid and ignorant you are! How totally brainwashed and manipulated you are!

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Re: Actually you are factually incorrect.


Sep 2, 2021, 6:49 AM

I'm pretty sure I didn't say anything about the medical care the team receives. I only said Coach Swinney has experts he can rely on if need be. I never called you any names, unlike you, nor did I question what you post. I only asked you if you get tired of posting the same thing over and over. The rest of your reply is simply made up since I came nowhere near any of the topics you raise.

If you really want folks to listen to you, you would make more headway if you toned it down a bit. Your relentless anger is just about all that comes through and any of the facts you say you're sharing get lost in the rhetoric.

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Nobody reads your same BS every time you post it. You are


Sep 2, 2021, 6:52 AM [ in reply to Actually you are factually incorrect. ]

just taking up space on the site.

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Re: Nobody reads your same BS every time you post it. You are


Sep 2, 2021, 7:11 AM

Ding ding ding. We have a winner.

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Re: Nobody reads your same BS every time you post it. You are


Sep 4, 2021, 10:20 AM [ in reply to Nobody reads your same BS every time you post it. You are ]

You are correct. The cut and paste king this lowcntry_tiger is

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PCR tests have been around for decades


Sep 2, 2021, 3:23 PM [ in reply to Don't you get tired....and confidence.... ]

And we use them everyday at work . It is the most common method used for allergen and GMO testing.

Like all methods it has its limitations ...and can provide false results for numerous reasons.

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Re: Clemson University has mandated that all be tested


Sep 2, 2021, 7:14 AM [ in reply to Re: Clemson University has mandated that all be tested ]

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Lol so forget the fact that the athlete might actually have COVID….they would be competing and infecting others if it weren’t for that stupid policy.



Does your workplace test everyone every week? If not how do y’all freaking survive. Look, it’s simple, no symptoms should not be tested. If you have symptoms then testing and ISolation. It’s how the rest of the world outside Clemson operates.

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Re: Clemson University has mandated that all be tested


Sep 1, 2021, 10:04 PM

Relax man…it’s just a football game. If they play it great…but if not, life goes on.

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Clearly you never played sports.


Sep 2, 2021, 4:29 AM

I can promise you the players don’t think it’s just football. Nor the coaches. They have poured their entire lives into this. Their blood sweat and tears!

There’s also the fact that it’s a multi billion dollar industry!

Go ask the business owners whose family business went bankrupt this past year in towns like Auburn, Alabama, or Clemson, South Carolina, and other college towns across America if it’s “just football “!

Local economies across America are dependent on football in the fall!

Do you think Clemson would be as big as it is and have the academic position it has today if it were not for football? If you think so you are completely wrong!

College athletics also pulls tens of thousands of people, especially minorities, out of generational poverty every year by way of a college education!

But it’s just football!

It’s just sports!

https://youtu.be/u878hr3xpRo

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Clearly I was calling for


Sep 2, 2021, 10:47 AM

shutting down the entire sports and entertainment industry. Not only are your communication and messaging skills top notch…but you have amazing powers of observation to boot.

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Re: Clemson University has mandated that all be tested


Sep 1, 2021, 10:05 PM

This will be just like the pee in a cup test for jobs and probation. Tons of ways to get a clean sample turned in. I’m not worried at all that any starters will miss games. We can make sure it’s the walk-ons that get popped.

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I can only hope this is not true


Sep 1, 2021, 10:10 PM

Nothing like giving yourself a discompetitive advantage

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Re: Clemson University has mandated that all be tested


Sep 1, 2021, 10:33 PM

Yep and that "other" Clemson site is reporting "several" players will be out. Obviously not releasing names. This testing policy is definitely going to hurt all season long.

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Re: Clemson University has mandated that all be tested


Sep 1, 2021, 10:36 PM

Whats the other Clemson site??

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Re: Clemson University has mandated that all be tested


Sep 1, 2021, 10:52 PM

This has been addressed already as not true …

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Re: Clemson University has mandated that all be tested


Sep 2, 2021, 1:04 AM

We've got schools going back to online learning. Feels like last year all over again.

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Re: Clemson University has mandated that all be tested


Sep 2, 2021, 1:23 AM



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All of that was stupidity and ignorance and


Sep 2, 2021, 4:45 AM

Greed and corruption!

There was never ever a shred of evidence that you could get Covid outdoors, especially on a sunny day and especially somewhere like the beach where you’ve got a breeze or typically a pretty strong wind.

In fact you should be outdoors, not wearing a mask, getting sun, getting vitamin D, getting fresh air, exercising and improving your natural immune system, which is the best way to fight Covid and all other illness.

The science and the data, plus history of viruses that are more deadly than Covid, have proven that quarantines and lockdowns do not work!

Masking as well has very little efficacy and that’s only if you wear the right type of mask and wear it properly. And even then you can’t be in a small room with no ventilation and multiple people with Covid and expect to be protected for more than a very short period.

Last year people with two brain cells and the ability to think critically knew the hysteria and response was nonsense!

And yes we do know more and we do have tons of data and people are actually overreacting just as much now as then. Actually even more so! When millions of people didn’t die as predicted they were proven wrong like most people knew would happen. But now we have Delta and the fear mongering is twice as bad.

Look at California, look at Canada, New Zealand, Australia, these countries are becoming full out fascist and authoritarian!

If you listen to the news and the Democrats you would think that Delta was far more deadly than the original Covid. It is more infectious. Infections rates are at the peaks back in January and February. But back then nearly 3,500 per day were dying. Currently under 1500 people are dying per day. Based on the rolling 7 day average it’s nearly 1 to 3.

I know because I look at the New York Times website that reports CDC data and it’s updated daily. You can look at America as a whole for infections and deaths or you can look at state by state numbers as well as county by county.


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Re: All of that was stupidity and ignorance and


Sep 2, 2021, 11:10 AM



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This is beyond stupid and asinine!


Sep 2, 2021, 3:16 AM

It proves the leaders of Clemson University don’t have a clue what they’re doing. Just like the leaders of our country and most other countries. Because this is not founded in science or data! And they clearly don’t understand the immense flaws and shortcomings of the PCR test.

No one should be getting tested if they are asymptomatic. The only people that should be getting a PCR test are people showing symptoms.

It blows my mind that so many intelligent people are rolling over like sheep for the fascists and authoritarians that are being motivated by fear, misinformation, disinformation, arrogance, and a whole lot of greed, not to mention lust for power and control! This is corruption at its worst! And you people are drinking it like Kool-Aid!

This nonsense is not, repeat NOT, based on science or data!

Yeah yeah yeah I know I’m a Trump voter, I’m a far right nut job, I also post facts and data and you ### hats don’t do anything except call me names. Show me data. I have repeatedly posted the data to prove you people wrong!

Roughly 1200 people under the age of 25 have died from Covid in America. The overwhelming majority of them had pre-existing conditions. Compare that to the regular flu, which kills children by the thousands every year!

Less than 1/5 of 1% of the population has died from Covid. The Spanish flu killed between 3 and 8% of the population and that’s back when America was far more rural, more isolated and far less mobile than today.

The Smithsonian Institute and Johns Hopkins university hospital put on a symposium in 2017 about the 1918 Spanish Flu that is on YouTube. It was sponsored by the Gates foundation. One of the takeaways from that symposium was quarantines and lockdowns do not stop the spread of a virus. One of the speakers at that symposium was Dr. Fauci and he talked about vaccines being highly ineffective against flu type viruses, including coronavirus.

Unless you haven’t been paying attention, what we have is not a vaccine. The data is now very clear on that. What we have is a glorified flu shot! And now they’re talking about needing boosters every six months. That is insane for something that has not been properly tested and we have no idea what the long-term effects will be.

And I know people say I don’t know anything about science, but I have an MBA and I know how to read reports and do statistical analysis. I also know about 30 percent of doctors and nurses in America have not been vaccinated And they are refusing to get vaccinated and because of mandates we are on the birds of a medical crisis far worse than Covid. Doctors and nurses are quitting jobs because they refuse to be forced to get an Experimental vaccine. So I’m sure you people are going to tell me doctors and nurses are uninformed? They don’t know science or medicine? They’re all far right nut jobs?

Do you think Brett Weinstein is a far right nut job? Alex Berenson? There are a lot of people on the left that are doing a lot of incredible analysis and reporting on the data and the facts that the government, the Democrats, the mainstream media are not telling you!

The data is becoming more and more clear that unvaccinated people that have already had Covid are far more protected than people with a vaccine.

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Oh my God…an MBA!


Sep 2, 2021, 11:28 AM

Well that changes everything! I’m not belittling those who have one…just you…because the others don’t pretend that their MBA also came with advanced degrees in virology and immunology.

Give it a rest…you haven’t discovered some great conspiracy…you’re just a dude with too much spare time, WiFi, and a Dunning-Kruger coffee mug.

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Re: Oh my God…an MBA!


Sep 2, 2021, 12:05 PM

Wow, this is all stupid. There are rules in place all over the country and either you accept the rules or you go somewhere else. If anyone thinks COVID is just a mild flu you obviously don't know anyone who has died or spent months in the ICU. Clemson football players are Clemson students and they accept the rules in place just like students at every other university do. The kids are in school to learn because very, very few will ever make a dime playing football.

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It's because of the SC state proviso, not Clements


Sep 2, 2021, 12:48 PM

Unfortunately, there’s a SC proviso that does not allow public colleges and universities to have different testing strategies for vaccinated and unvaccinated students.


117.163. (GP: COVID-19 Proof of Vaccination Restriction - Institutions) For the current fiscal year, state-supported institutions of higher learning that directly or indirectly receive funds appropriated or authorized through the general appropriations act shall be restricted from requiring proof of COVID-19 vaccination for any student as a condition of enrollment, attendance at on campus instruction, or residence on campus. In instances of off-campus learning events for which third party program providers require proof of vaccination, the third party requirements shall apply.



We only got around this -

117.190. (GP: Masks at Higher Education Facilities) A public institution of higher learning, including a technical college, may not use any funds appropriated or authorized pursuant to this act to require that its students have received the COVID-19 vaccination in order to be present at the institution's facilities without being required to wear a facemask. This prohibition extends to the announcement or enforcement of any such


because of a state supreme court ruling

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Re: It's because of the SC state proviso, not Clements


Sep 2, 2021, 1:45 PM

I rest my case because this guvnor and his posse in the House and Senate have no clue. It will be a different subject but a perfect example is the absolutely unenforceable law of slow left lane driving on Interstates. Sadly we don't have enough troopers to work wrecks in this state much less try to guess at a person's intention in passing on the Interstate. Talk about Big Brother.

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Re: Clemson University has mandated that all be tested


Sep 4, 2021, 11:49 AM

If Davis is out, he should sue the school for loss of revenue potential. I'm just saying the unvaccinated threatened to sue for discrimination and the school caved. He should file to send a message. It's a benefit of being vaccinated. No testing of vaccinated individuals with no symptoms!!

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