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Clemson reversed course on masks
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Clemson reversed course on masks


Jun 5, 2021, 7:38 AM

No longer required if gotten vaccine or not while on campus or classrooms. Only required on Catbus or redfern.

Life is getter back to normal.

But wonder if masks will be required for bus ride to the Hill prior to game. That is truly a Catbus, lol.

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All the players have facemasks. No problem.***


Jun 5, 2021, 2:22 PM



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Re: Clemson reversed course on masks


Jun 6, 2021, 6:41 AM

If Clemson truly wanted to be innovative and a leader it would add a third option for students.

If Clemson wanted to follow the science and not be politically correct they would offer students a third option besides vaccines or Weekly testing.

The PCR test is a terrible test for Covid. The creator of the PCR test, who won a Nobel prize, said it should not be used for Covid. The way it operates and how they use it actually generates a lot of positives when people don’t actually have Covid. And that doesn’t include the 1% of false positives. Back when they were testing 1.5 million people a day that means there were 15,000 false positives plus The thousands if not tens of thousands of people that tested positive daily with microscopic levels of viral load that could trigger a positive test but not actually cause someone to get Covid.

Regarding the vaccines, they are not FDA approved, and are used via experimental authorization. Plenty of objective and serious scientists such as Brett Weinstein and his wife Heather, both progressive Democrats with PhD‘s in biology, think they could have serious long-term consequences especially for young girls and women that want to have children later in life.

It’s also unconstitutional to make someone take an experimental vaccine. Federal judges actually ruled that this is unconstitutional. During the Bush administration during the Iraq war they tried to make soldiers take an experimental vaccine. Some of them said #### no and took the military to court and won. Why is this important? Because when you join the military you sign away many of your civil liberties. They do in fact control you more than an average citizen. But a federal judge ruled that the military cannot force you to take an experimental vaccine. These vaccines are not FDA approved and are being used under emergency use authorization.

If Clemson really wanted to be out in front as an innovator and leader they would offer a third option, which is have students take a weekly dose of ivermectin and follow the FLCCC protocol.

Ivermectin has been around for over 40 years. Over 4 billion doses have been given. It is FDA approved and extremely safe. In fact it is sold over the counter in parts of Asia and Africa. It has proven antiviral properties and the FLCCC has done the meta-analysis of over 200 independent studies that prove Abra Macton not only cures Covid but can prevent Covid. There is also tons of clinical evidence that it works as well. And it can be readily made and is extremely cheap because it is no longer under patent.

I have known about the FLCCC and ivermectin since last year. I talk to my family doctor here in Charleston around February and have been taking over Mackton and following the FLCCC protocol for months.

If you want to know the truth here it is: Real science!

https://youtu.be/Tn_b4NRTB6k


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Re: Clemson reversed course on masks


Jun 6, 2021, 8:15 AM

Full disclosure. I’ve taken the Pfizer vaccine as well as my whole family. I support Americans choosing to take it or not take it.

Now please don’t go all anti-vaxxer on what Lowcntry is saying about prevention and treatment for Covid using Ivermectin. The FLCC is a legit treatment plan. There has been extremely good studies done this past year. Search for Dr John Campbell on YouTube. He’s done excellent coverage of Ivermectin in recent weeks. Non-political review of the medical studies conducted on the drug. Third world countries who have no options for mass vaccination right now have most definitely benefited by deploying Ivermectin to try to fight the spread of the virus.

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Re: Clemson reversed course on masks


Jun 6, 2021, 12:54 PM

And that is all I’m saying. People should be given the choice. Why is the establishment so scared of ivermectin? A drug that is FDA approved and has a four decade history of proven safe usage. Doctors give people experimental drugs every day in America. They want to force us to take an experimental vaccine. But they won’t even try ivermectin in life-threatening situations? This is not an experimental drug. We’re simply talking off label usage. A huge percentage of prescriptions written every day by doctors are off label usage of FDA approved drugs.

There has been about a dozen cases, a handful in the state of New York alone, where family members were in intensive care on a ventilator being given very little chance to survive and their families requested ivermectin and the doctors refused. So these families got a court order and some of the doctors are still refusing against court orders despite the fact that in the other cases there has been a 100% recovery rate for people that are on their deathbed and immediately recover after taking ivermectin. You can Google it and see the local news stories.

This is insane, criminal, and immoral. I’m telling you 10 to 20 years from now the postmortem is going to be brutal and ugly. A lot of big-name doctors and politicians and government organizations are gonna be looking stupid and there will be people going to jail!

Dr. Pierre Kory has testified before Congress about Covid twice. Back in 2020 and 2021. Immediately following the FLCCC presented their research to the NIH. Back in 2020 the NIH changed their stance on steroids which is now standard treatment for patients in the hospital with Covid. The FLCC has saved probably millions of lives globally because of their recommendation to the NIH about steroids.

Again following his testimony in 2021 the FLCCC again presented their research analysis to the NIH and they reversed course on ivermectin. The NIH used to say do not use it. Now they have a neutral stance, which means it’s basically approved for doctors to use at their discretion. The NIH does not have to recommend something. All they have to do is take a neutral stance, which removes any legal barriers by the government for doctors to use their discretion. Which is what doctors do every day!

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Lowcountry, you mention taking ivermectin weekly?


Jun 6, 2021, 8:18 AM [ in reply to Re: Clemson reversed course on masks ]

I haven't watched the entire podcast yet, but do they get into recommended dosages? I first took ivermectin back in December, with a second round(two doses, two days apart)about a month ago.

I thought it was only necessary to take it about once every six months, so where do you get the weekly recommendation?

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Re: Lowcountry, you mention taking ivermectin weekly?


Jun 6, 2021, 8:28 AM


I haven't watched the entire podcast yet, but do they get into recommended dosages? I first took ivermectin back in December, with a second round(two doses, two days apart)about a month ago.

I thought it was only necessary to take it about once every six months, so where do you get the weekly recommendation?


FLCCC has the treatment plans on their website that can be shared with your doctor. Of course only under supervision of your doctor should anyone embark on medical treatment.

https://covid19criticalcare.com/


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Re: Lowcountry, you mention taking ivermectin weekly?


Jun 6, 2021, 12:37 PM

You don’t need medical supervision. Ivermectin has been a proven medication, FDA approved, over 4 billion doses globally, it can be bought over the counter in parts of Africa and India. It is one of the most prescribed safest drugs in the history of medicine. It’s no more dangerous than taking a couple of aspirin. Stop fear mongering.

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Re: Lowcountry, you mention taking ivermectin weekly?


Jun 6, 2021, 1:14 PM [ in reply to Lowcountry, you mention taking ivermectin weekly? ]

Go to the FLCCC website. They have a 2 page PDF that’s available in pretty much every language. It gives the protocol For ivermectin which includes vitamin D, vitamin C, zinc, and a few other supplements. The supplements you take daily. The ivermectin you take one dose today. You take another dose in 48 hours. Then take a dose weekly.

Page 2 has a chart that shows how much ivermectin to take based on your body weight. Basically it’s X milligrams per pound of body weight. They give you the formula but they also do the math for you on the chart.

https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/FLCCC-Alliance-I-MASKplus-Protocol-ENGLISH.pdf

If your doctor does not want to prescribe it, which my doctor did here in Charleston without hesitation after reading about the FLCCC, they provide a list of doctors that will work with you and prescribe ivermectin. About six or seven on the list can help with people in South Carolina. One of them is here in the Lowcountry. Dr. Kimberly Devolld. She has four offices in the Charleston area and does Tele med appointments.

I’m not going to provide my doctors name or information on here because some crazy will try and cancel him. I will simply say this, he is a Clemson grad and went to One of the best med schools in America which also happens to be a member of the ACC. He works for a major hospital organization in the low country.

https://www.cpakids.com/team-profile.php?staffID=161

https://covid19criticalcare.com/ivermectin-in-covid-19/how-to-get-ivermectin/


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Re: Clemson reversed course on masks


Jun 6, 2021, 11:33 AM [ in reply to Re: Clemson reversed course on masks ]

It's funny how you call out the vaccines for not being FDA approved (I'm curious what you'll pivot to when formal approval comes within the next 12-18 months) but then launch into Ivermectin as a treatment, which is something that the FDA has explicitly released guidance contraindicating: https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/why-you-should-not-use-ivermectin-treat-or-prevent-covid-19


Also the FLCCC hasn't proven anything. They've had publications rejected due to unsubstantiated claims. The NIH specifically calls out studies regarding the efficacy of Ivermectin in COVID-19 treatment as having "incomplete information" and "significant methodological limitations": https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/antiviral-therapy/ivermectin/

When you're failing at the peer review stage you don't have anything approaching proof.


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Re: Clemson reversed course on masks


Jun 6, 2021, 1:53 PM

Wow! Talk about a lot of miss information. Antibiotics people take every day are also used for animals.

Ivermectin was discovered about 50 years ago. Two doctors won the Nobel prize for it. Over 4 billion doses have been given to people globally. It can be bought over the counter in parts of the world. It has an extremely proven safety record.

Ivermectin is FDA approved and people get prescriptions every day for off label usage of FDA approved drugs.

Oh yes, let’s wait another 12 or 18 months for the FDA to approve the vaccinations when we could be preventing people from getting Covid with ivermectin.

The NIH has a neutral stance on ivermectin after the FLCCC presented their research. A neutral stance means doctors can use it at their discretion.

People keep trying to smear the FLCCC but you were incorrect. They have dozens and dozens of studies that prove it is effective. We also have tons of clinical evidence that it is effective.

Why are you so scared of? People take experimental treatments every day in America. Ivermectin is not experimental. It is extremely safe. Merck until recently actually bragged about the millions of lives saved by ivermectin and how safe it is but when the FLC cc started recommending it they took that down and suddenly reversed course after 4 billion doses and 40 years of research and said it was not safe. Four days later they got $352 million for vaccine research.

Do you think you are smarter than Brett Weinstein and his wife Heather? Both PhD‘s in biology with years of actual research in the field?

They are scientists, academics that were tenured professors and taught for 15 years at Evergreen State College which is considered the most progressive college in America. They are lifelong Democrats and progressives. They are not Trump supporters. They are not Republicans. They are not right wing nut jobs or conspiracy theorists. They are two of the smartest and most well-informed people in America. They have rejected the vaccine and decided to get on the FLCCC protocol.

I live by three simple principles:
1. Actions speak louder than words.
2. Occam‘s razor
3. Follow the money.

The people in the government and big tech and Pharma and the media that are pushing back on ivermectin are liars and acting criminally and ill-morally and they fail all three of my simple principles for life!

Why are you so scared of? What is the government and big tech and big Pharma scared of?

Ivermectin is an insanely safe drug. Again, over 4 billion doses prescribed. Can be bought over the counter in parts of the world. Merck, until recently, boasted on their website about the millions of lives saved and the billions of doses given safely.

There is virtually zero risk to taking ivermectin.

We are not allowed to give an FDA approved safe drug to people dying of Covid while doctors all across the world use experimental treatments every day? Do you not hear yourself how irrational you are when you look at this objectively and rationally?

Let’s do a little experiment. It would be very easy and very inexpensive and we don’t need the federal government. Let’s have everyone on tiger net petition SCDHEC for an ivermectin study.

Let’s take 2000 people in the low country, 2000 people in Columbia, and 2000 people in Greenville/Spartanburg. Let’s vaccinate those people with the current experimental non-FDA approved vaccines.

Let’s then take another 6000 people in the same way as listed above but these are people that do not want the vaccine. We will use them as a control group. They will not take ivermectin or get vaccinated. By their own constitutional choice!

Then let’s create a third group of 6000 people with the same distribution and put them on the FLCCC protocol. These will be people again that do not want the vaccination but are willing to follow the FLCCC protocol. Under the supervision of the SCDHEC.

Let’s then follow those three groups over the next 90 to 180 days and look at the results. It is 100% ethical 100% legal and real science! And people will be simply doing whatever they wanna to do and prescribing to which ever three of the groups they want to participate in.

But you will never support that. Big tech, the Democrats, big Pharma, the WHO, FDA, CDC, the mainstream media, etc. etc. well all bash this idea fine stupid reasons and will push back with every ounce of your beings for one simple reason. You’re all scared it will work! You’re all scared it will prove what a ####### scam this has been to make politicians and the elites and big Pharma rich with billions of dollars in taxpayers money for vaccinations because ivermectin is cheap and easily reproducible globally because it is no longer under patent and it will prove that this has been about nothing but money and government control from the very beginning!

I’m pretty sure you nor anyone on tiger net is as smart educated and informed in science and biology as Brett Weinstein and his wife Heather. If you can watch these two short videos and still act like ivermectin is BS and nonsense you need to have your head examined. It will show you are not an objective reasonable rational intelligent person.

https://youtu.be/1yMWYmTl-qI

https://youtu.be/zfqxCkJw0Rk


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Didn't read the entire article, but when you say using Ivermectin


Jun 7, 2021, 6:57 PM [ in reply to Re: Clemson reversed course on masks ]

can be dangerous or even lethal, you lose all credibility! Ivermectin is one of the safest drugs ever produced, regardless of what it may be used for! Over 4 Billion doses have been given to humans...probably 10 times that many to animals!

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Re: Clemson reversed course on masks


Jun 6, 2021, 8:15 AM

Oh Great! Here we go. More mask nonsense from the Tnet doctors. YAWN!

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Re: Clemson reversed course on masks


Jun 6, 2021, 8:34 AM

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Oh Great! Here we go. More mask nonsense from the Tnet doctors. YAWN!


To be absolutely clear, I am making no statement about the efficacy of masks. My intent is to help inform others about legitimate medical research about the efficacy of Ivermectin. This medication doesn’t deserve to be thrown into the pile of other bs that’s been heralded as treatment for covid-19.

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Re: Clemson reversed course on masks


Jun 6, 2021, 8:36 AM

It's all about money. They have to let 82000 screaming maskless fans in death valley this year to support the university. The administration would be total hypocrites to make the students wear masks in class everyday. And just think... I thought it was about the "science". Hmmmmm......

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Here is the bottom line


Jun 7, 2021, 12:55 AM

IMO, now that all people who wanted to be vaccinated are vaccinated, masks should be made voluntary in all circumstances.

The vaccines work better than expected. The stats are just amazing. Pfizer and Moderna both hit grand slam home runs. Vaccinated folks have nothing to fear about COVID-19.

Anti-vaxxers shouldn't be allowed to obstruct those of us who got vaccinated. By choice, they will suffer whatever resulting consequences (if any) as COVID mutates into more contagious and possibly more virulent strains. Simple as that. They shouldn't be my problem and I shouldn't be forced to wear a mask to protect them from themselves. Death rates have plummeted back to March 2020 levels and continue falling.

TL;dr version:
Everyone vaccinated and anti-vaxxers now both agree masks aren't needed. So let's get rid of them and move on. It was great to walk into a crowded restaurant earlier today and not one patron wore a mask; just staff.

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I think we should bring back the Rat tradition.

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Jun 7, 2021, 10:32 AM

Unvaccinated students are the Rats.

That’ll teach ‘em.

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And the vaccinated people are the lab rats.

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Jun 7, 2021, 10:54 AM

Rats and lab rats.

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