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Clemson Basketball: What Went Wrong?
Mar 10, 2022, 10:18 AM
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this article is from the year after Clemson went to the Sweet 16. With 4 returning starters, expectations were high that we would build upon the previous year when we looked to be a year ahead of schedule. Unfortunately...
Then the next year we went 16-11 and 9-11 in the ACC. Postseason was cancelled, but we would have stayed home regardless.
Then last year we make the tournament but are 1 and done. And now this year we likely won't make the NIT with an ever so slightly winning record in a rally down ACC.
In hindsight, this has been a poor stretch of underachieving teams.
https://rubbingtherock.com/2019/03/18/clemson-basketball-tigers-disappointing-season-ends-nit-bid-went-wrong/
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We were 16-15 in 2019-2020
Mar 10, 2022, 10:20 AM
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not 16-11.
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Re: Clemson Basketball: What Went Wrong?
Mar 10, 2022, 10:25 AM
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I agree. A change is coming...
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Re: Clemson Basketball: What Went Wrong?
Mar 10, 2022, 10:32 AM
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I don't even think we are in the discussion
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Re: Clemson Basketball: What Went Wrong?
Mar 10, 2022, 10:58 AM
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I agree. A change is coming...
Maybe the change should be in your attitude as CBB is not going anywhere.
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Re: Clemson Basketball: What Went Wrong?
Mar 10, 2022, 10:59 AM
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Well then, change is not coming. We'll be mediocre, again.
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Re: Clemson Basketball: What Went Wrong?
Mar 10, 2022, 11:22 AM
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True. But they are totally ok with that.
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Re: Clemson Basketball: What Went Wrong?
Mar 10, 2022, 11:22 AM
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Who is "they"?
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Re: Clemson Basketball: What Went Wrong?
Mar 10, 2022, 12:11 PM
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The people supporting Brad Brownell as head coach despite his being consistently mediocre over a decade+. The ones making it so “change is not coming.”
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Re: Clemson Basketball: What Went Wrong?
Mar 10, 2022, 12:27 PM
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Hopefully Neff is not "they".
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What went wrong was, our ever loyal and well-intentioned
Mar 10, 2022, 10:53 AM
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fan base went into denial about the failures of our basketball program, accepted inaction and complacency by our AD and BOT. And here we are.
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Re: What went wrong was, our ever loyal and well-intentioned
Mar 10, 2022, 11:00 AM
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fan base went into denial about the failures of our basketball program, accepted inaction and complacency by our AD and BOT. And here we are.
What's wrong is fans like yourself who do not understand the choices which have to be made if we want a better basketball program.
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So we should have kept Larry Shyatt?
Mar 10, 2022, 11:10 AM
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I mean, a new coach couldn't possibly make a difference.
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Re: Clemson Basketball: What Went Wrong?
Mar 10, 2022, 11:06 AM
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Things happen. Who would have thought in 2010, the year after North Carolina won the National Championship, they would only make the NIT. There are no easy answers in sports.
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Re: Clemson Basketball: What Went Wrong?
Mar 10, 2022, 11:21 AM
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Recruiting, especially in basketball where one or two players can make a huge difference, is extremely important.
I would argue that Brownell has not been a dynamic recruiter.
12 years in, I don’t see why retaining Brownell will produce any significant change in the Clemson basketball program.
I do not expect a change, but I would welcome hiring a young dynamic coach with a personality that can sell the program better.
Same ole same ole is otherwise to be expected with the odd year of making the dance.
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Re: Clemson Basketball: What Went Wrong?
Mar 10, 2022, 12:59 PM
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Recruiting, especially in basketball where one or two players can make a huge difference, is extremely important.
I would argue that Brownell has not been a dynamic recruiter.
12 years in, I don’t see why retaining Brownell will produce any significant change in the Clemson basketball program.
I do not expect a change, but I would welcome hiring a young dynamic coach with a personality that can sell the program better.
Same ole same ole is otherwise to be expected with the odd year of making the dance.
I pretty much agree on this. I do think brownell has been right on the cusp quite a few times. He has not been able to get over the hump. I do think we can have a good/great team next year. I've shall see.
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Re: Clemson Basketball: What Went Wrong?
Mar 10, 2022, 4:11 PM
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I also agree. 12+ years is enough of a chance to prove what you can do. Time to try something else.
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We seem to play a lot better in Greenville than Little john***
Mar 10, 2022, 11:28 AM
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Re: Clemson Basketball: What Went Wrong?
Mar 10, 2022, 12:27 PM
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Name the Clemson Basketball coach that won the ACC championship.
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Re: Clemson Basketball: What Went Wrong?
Mar 10, 2022, 12:28 PM
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Name the one that didn't, 12 times.
Why is this your defense? Losing is acceptable to you? Just because we haven't won it before, we shouldn't try harder to win it in the future?
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Re: Clemson Basketball: What Went Wrong?
Mar 10, 2022, 12:48 PM
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Not really a defense, just an observation. We have had some great coaches in the past. I have seen some great games in Littlejohn 79-83... Later, when Rick Barnes was the coach, it was exciting for the most part.
We have seen teams in the past that couldn't even pass the ball when we played real good teams. I don't think we are near that level of poor play. Can we shoot? Some nights are very poor.. Never understood that. By the time you get to college you can either shoot or you can't..
One thing for sure,, If we get a coach that does compete and win a conference title, he will be an icon.
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Uh,... Brad***
Mar 10, 2022, 12:54 PM
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