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Clemson basketball fans need to ask themselves this

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Mar 9, 2022, 10:09 PM

question, “Can Brad Brownell win the ACC regular season or the tournament?” If not get rid of him and if you really believe he can give him a two year extension.
Commit to winning the ACC that should be our goal, no matter what the past has been.
Don’t let your past determine your future.

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Mar 9, 2022, 10:16 PM

waterboyII said:

question, “Can Brad Brownell win the ACC regular season or the tournament?” If not get rid of him and if you really believe he can give him a two year extension.
Commit to winning the ACC that should be our goal, no matter what the past has been.
Don’t let your past determine your future.



What will those of you who are not Clemson fans be asking yourselves???

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Mar 9, 2022, 10:23 PM

I am almost 70 years old and we have never won the ACC Tournament and I afraid I will not live long enough to see it happen. If only Tree had hit the hook shot like PJ did tonight.

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Mar 10, 2022, 6:10 AM

Well, I am 70 years old and I know how you feel, but honestly, I never thought I'd see the day when Clemson would win a natty in football and then Dabo came along. And look at Duke in basketball, until they found Coach K. Never say never my friend...

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Mar 10, 2022, 8:59 AM

Never thought you would see the day Clemson would win a natty in football until Dabo came? If you are 70 years old how did you miss the 1981 football Natty?

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And Duke had some pretty good teams pre-K


Mar 10, 2022, 10:12 AM

Gminski, Gene Banks, Spanarkle (great name) with Bill Foster. Made it to the NCAA final game.

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Mar 10, 2022, 4:25 AM

I ,for one do not believe we can win either, so if you are wanting a heads or tails like answer than I say heads. Last nights loss to Va. Tech was painful with the way it ended but you could see it coming. And while I know the guys played real hard, there is no such thing as a "moral victory" in my book. We lost so now we see what happens with a possible NIT bid.
However, you also have to consider that winning the ACC is "probably" never going to happen because we can't recruit the type of talent needed to win either. Rather the goal should be winning 20 games in the regular season and finishing at least middle of the pack in the conference with a reasonable goal of making the Big Dance if we preform well enough in the tournament
Even if we had pulled off the win last night ,we would have needed to beat Notre Dame tonight and then probably the semi final game just to be considered at large.
And that was not going to happen.

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Mar 10, 2022, 6:45 AM

Had no shot at an NCAA bid. Had to win the ACCT. NIT was the scenario. The season is over...

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If the belief is seriously that we can never win the ACC,

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Mar 10, 2022, 7:30 AM

then what in the #### are we doing? Why even have a basketball program? That makes us LOSERS by definition, and I find that unacceptable. If that is the case, then I am totally serious when I say scrap the basketball program and use that money to fund something worthwile at Clemson, instead of an admitted failure, with no hope or intention of success. It's really unbelievable that we have fans and/or board members and people in the athletic department with this loser mentality.

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Mar 10, 2022, 8:21 AM

I agree with Smiling Tiger if our goal is not to win the ACC Tournament or the ACC Regular season. I am not asking for a NCAA Tournament Championship. But if we cannot win the ACC in some form then this is a club sport.
For those that say Clemson cannot recruit top players then you have not watched PJ Hall this year. He makes everyone around him better.

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Mar 10, 2022, 11:05 AM

PJ Hall is a great player, likely the best player to play for Brownell. That said, he would be 3rd or 4th banana on Duke's team this year and likely 2nd or 3rd banana on UNC (and the Holes do not have a great team). Clemson has to be able to bring in 2 or 3 PJ Halls every year in order to consistently compete with the upper echelon of the ACC. PJ Hall is actually an indictment of the rest of our recruiting as he is not able to do it all himself (despite almost doing it last night at less than 100%).

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I think you can be a fan without expecting a title


Mar 10, 2022, 10:15 AM

I mean, I've done it for 50+ years. Try it - it will lower your blood pressure December - March.

Gamecock football fans do it every year. Our basketball team is analagous.

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Please - let's not compare our basketball team to Coot

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Mar 10, 2022, 11:00 AM

anything. That should be a red flag that something is wrong and needs to be fixed. It should light a fire under every Clemson fan. For the record, I joined IPTAY in 1968. I dropped it a few years back because I could no longer keep season tickets or even get to many games, but I've been a fan all of my life too.

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Mar 10, 2022, 11:55 AM

Get a good recruiting coach that can put a good recruiting staff together and watch what happens obviously being a good xs and os coach is not the believe all that it should be. Clemson needs a signature trait for it's program that can attract the right recruits.

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Mar 10, 2022, 11:10 AM

Son I guess you always feel you always going to finish last in golf so there are no reasons to get lessons practice or try that new driver?? I would not trust you with much.??

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Mar 10, 2022, 11:07 AM

Well played my friend. You would be the guy I would put much in charge??

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shouldn't the AD be asking himself that?

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Mar 10, 2022, 12:03 PM

what can Tnet do

What has Tnet ever accomplished besides getting rid of DSP?

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