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Conservatives are out working for a living. Going to church. Spending time with their family. But most importantly, most do not rely on or depend on government. They see themselves as being the most important factor in their success or failure in life. So whoever is president is not as important for people who are self sufficient. It is literally do or die though for those who are not. That's why democrats have always been more attuned to, and interested in politics and government. They see it as an answer and a solution, and not a problem. Go back to Reagan when he said government was the problem and not the solution. Heck, even Trump has not stepped that far right. ALL politicians want you to think government is the solution.

And the media wants you to think it's do or die when it comes to politics, so you'll tune in. The weather channel.....deer gawd. My dad watches that all day and thinks Armageddon is upon us. The weather channel wants you to think the weather is important, and that disasters are happening everywhere. So much so they fake being blown around in hurricanes. And reporters paddle canoes in 4 inches of water while people stroll by.

No politician (either party) will ever remind people that they control their success or failure more than any politician. No politician will ever remind you that people working, in the private sector economy, wholly fund the government. The government doesn't have a penny to spend that it doesn't take from someone working, being self sufficient, in the private sector economy. With debt, they will just print it and make your children pay for it. Still, it's money that will have to be paid back, through taxes, from someone being self sufficient.

On a broader measure, all our problems today can be traced to the fact that we're now for all intents and purposes, a democracy. A federal democracy. We are no longer a democratic republic, as founded. And our founding fathers knew what fate awaits a federal democracy in a nation as large and diverse as our own. As a pure republic, we fail. As a pure democracy, we fail. As a democratic republic, if we keep that balance, we thrive. The more Washington controls across all 50 states, the more animosity there will be. The more people beholden to Washington for their livelihood, the more animosity there will be.

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Re: My larger point is that this new reverence and respect that

Jul 25, 2019, 2:02 PM [ in reply to My larger point is that this new reverence and respect that ]

One thing to consider is that the Republicans represent the status quo...and they also represent established power and big business.

The left tends - or is supposed to, anyhow (a lot of them are careerists disguised as Men/Women of the People), to represent the common man, the little man, and the disenfranchised, as well as the idea of progress.

This is exactly why the press skews left. Intellectualism by its nature is progressive and press guys are nosey nerds who wanna know stuff. Also, few of them except the big-time anchors make much money, and secondly, because established power and big business can protect its own interests; the common man often cannot, and his only real strength is his vote. In order to know what's in his best interests, he has to be informed. In any democracy this creates a natural vacuum that the press fills.

This is why "right-wing" media is ultimately doomed to fail over the long-term (or kill the "mainstream" media entirely) because it's basically indistinguishable from state media and can become so very quickly, as Fox essentially has with Trump. Almost by definition, right-wing media doesn't speak truth to or about power, it rubberstamps the actions of the powerful, and if the powerful aren't called to account for their actions by a free press, they pretty much act...well, exactly like the Trump Administration is acting now - unaccountable, incompetent, and utterly without scruple or conscience, and Fox cleans it all up for them.

It just doesn't work...well, not in an actual democracy, it doesn't, which America is having some...issues with, right now. Again, the powerful and the rich don't need their own networks rubberstamping their actions; history tells us again and again and again what they need is accountability, or they get up to stuff. So the mainstream press has to lean left, and by their very affiliation any Republican politician - who again, represents both the status quo and established power - is going to have a harder time convincing the press that they deserve to be trusted. You mention W...well, Dubya really did not help himself by resuming his father's war on false pretenses (the WMD's that ended up not existing.)

Of course, it's worth remembering that a Democrat who repeatedly betrays the public trust can wind up on the wrong side of the press as well. Bill Clinton certainly did; he complained bitterly and often about how mean the press was to him. (Well, Bill, that happens when you're persistently shady!) And it's also been established time and time again that Democrats can't afford to be seen to be the bad guy like a Republican can. Bill survived, ultimately, because he shucked and jived and convinced enough people with that aw-shucks smile of his that under it all he really was a good guy; Hillary and her cold-eyed stare never invited that same forgiveness. It's why I thought the Dems were insane to run Hillary and deserved to lose that election; she inherited all that Clinton baggage (which included both a press and public that viewed her as more than a little shady) and she didn't exactly have the warm sunny personality her husband did to make up for it on the other end.

She paid for it, too. The press was entirely too willing to listen when that whole Russiagate thing happened, and considering Trump basically won on the strength of about 50,000 key votes in swing states, it'd be hard for anybody to claim it didn't ultimately cost her the election.

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Fox's Napolitano: Trump Makes America Hate Again.

I seem to recall a torrent of hatred for GWB

Re: I seem to recall a torrent of hatred for GWB

Re: I seem to recall a torrent of hatred for GWB

she only tweeted this because he's white

I'd say the President's such words and actions are more of a

Take your most moderate 2016 GOP candidate

This is a terrible, biased take.

Yes.

Re: This is a terrible, biased take.

Oh, well...that settles it.

My larger point is that this new reverence and respect that

absolutely hated...even Romney was vilified. Mccain was a

Sociological reasons...I have a theory on why

"Conservatives work hard and go to church and don't

Re: "Conservatives work hard and go to church and don't

Re: My larger point is that this new reverence and respect that

I don't think he's comparing Graham to Trump, he's

Let me ask you this:

I wouldn't say so, but given the whole Rev Wright

So the whole Mike Brown/Ferguson/cop thing...

Where are we moving the goal posts to here?***

I don't know. What were the goalposts?

I'm just pointing out that "racist!" isn't an exclusive

Not totally, but pretty close.***

Napolitano is a Republican Fox News Analyst.***

he’s a dyed in the wool Libertarian.

Thanks for the correction. It has no bearing on the point

Look, Shrimp. You just peeled and de-veined in one motion.

Re: Look, Shrimp. You just peeled and de-veined in one motion.

Quit acting like I just slit

As a parent might say...

You really think that's true, Tiggity?

1st paragraph: Of course they'd handle themselves better.

Re: 1st paragraph: Of course they'd handle themselves better.

Re: Take your most moderate 2016 GOP candidate

ACA was FAR from perfect...and if you don't think

Re: ACA was FAR from perfect...and if you don't think

In that event...if ACA isn't being

Re: In that event...if ACA isn't being

The right didn't hate Obama or Clinton as much as the left

Whatever criticism the right had of Clinton, and there was

and To clarify since I don’t have edit function

I agree, except...

No, that’s not true at all.

You’re completely wrong here. If you don’t think Trump has

Yes, but where a dog whistle was once the standard

so honestly...

Re: so honestly...

I wouldnt say CNN is making a fortune

Re: Fox's Napolitano: Trump Makes America Hate Again.

There will always be a new scandal as long as this guy

It's like lying down on a bed of nails.

so, how are your blue balls doing?

If social platforms and the media existed at

Napolitano is a hack, Fox sux, you are devoid of facts.

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