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Re: Byrnes Hall Ballers Ep. 2
Oct 27, 2022, 10:04 PM
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I really enjoyed the 2nd podcast.
Just curious justifications on your ACC rankings?
How did you determine what make some teams higher than others than others?
For instance there are 4 factors when I determine what rankings should be.
1-How many starters or players from the top 7 rotation you have coming back?
2-Of those starters or rotation players coming back, how many are MVP type or All-ACC type players
3-what type of impact number of players are you bringing from the transfer portal?
4- and what type of recruiting class you have coming in- the better groups would be bringing more than one top 50-100 type prospect coming in.
For example you say that BC is going to be bad? They bring 4 starters back from a team that was playing very well at the end the season under a first year coach Earl Grant that was getting his program established. Beat Pitt, and upset Wake Forest and took Miami to overtime in the ACC Tournament. He also brings a good recruiting class including 2 top 100 type 4 star recruits.
Just curious. Don't you think that Clemson really missd out on the portal not bringing in one more impact transfer when they had one scholarship left? I mean was really excited when they got Jayleyn Llewlyn from the portal, and when he decommited was hoping thry would bringing on someone at least close to that impact to combine with Galloway.
Thanks, again.
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Re: Byrnes Hall Ballers Ep. 2
Oct 31, 2022, 10:07 AM
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BC was bad last year. They went 13-20. I think they'll be better this year, but I don't think they'll be all that much better.
We also didn't rank the ACC teams -- all we did was discuss the ACC media preseason rankings and we did make a couple of remarks about where we thought Clemson should be, why it was silly for anyone to rank VT number one, and a couple of other things about rankings we thought were off.
Regardless, I'm glad you listened to the pod! Hope you continue to tune in! We appreciate the support!
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Re: Byrnes Hall Ballers Ep. 2
Oct 31, 2022, 12:06 PM
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Really enjoying the podcast, please keep at it throughout the year!
I was doing the same thing as you went game by game, yeah we should win that, yeah no way we win this one, etc... and then when the win totals were added up I was thinking they were high as well.
It is so hard to predict Clemson basketball because:
- Neutral site games are always a toss up it seems
- We always win a couple of games at home we probably shouldn't
- We always lose several games on the road we probably shouldn't
In theory that evens out, but it's the latter that concerns me. Road games at BC, Pitt, Wake, Louisville, and VT all should be wins, but my inner Clemson basketball meter says we go no better than 2-3, and that puts us behind the 8-ball for post season play.
Looking forward to the first few games!
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Re: Byrnes Hall Ballers Ep. 2
Oct 31, 2022, 12:59 PM
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I did the same and got 21 wins as well. I think part of it is that our acc schedule is easy this year. We only play UVA, Duke, and UNC once, and we the bottom 4-5 teams of the league all twice.
I was being very conservative and didn't even pick an upset, which brownell typically has every year.
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Re: Byrnes Hall Ballers Ep. 2
Oct 31, 2022, 1:21 PM
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Our first five games I think we should be 5-0, barring an upset to USC, which I will not rule out because that game already has a bad feeling to it for me. I think we go 2-3 in the 5 games between, Iowa, Cal/TCU, Penn State, Richmond, Loyola Chicago, and take care of Towson. So that is 8-3 going into ACC play, which I would be happy with.
So we would need 12-8 to be a 20 win team, I just see that being difficult, but I hope to be wrong!
Our early season will tell the tale, the USC game will be big for momentum with no PJ Hall. It would also be great to actually win one of those early season tournament things, I wonder what that is like. I remember the St. Bonny and WVU games last year where we blew those huge leads and felt they really killed momentum, we can't have that again this year.
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Re: Byrnes Hall Ballers Ep. 2
Oct 31, 2022, 6:03 PM
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I made the post below breaking down our ACC schedule. I predicted an 11-9 ACC record.
The ACC is going to be better this year. I thought the ACC was underrated top to bottom last year and I believe that proved to be true come tourney time. Having said that, our schedule is surprisingly easy compared to what it could be.
We play the following teams 2 times (home and home). I'm using a CBS prediction. At this point, most predictions are dead wrong. We avoid playing UNC, Duke, and Virginia twice. I believe those are the top 3 teams in the ACC. We could easily have a 7-5 record in these 12 games, beating GT, and Louisville home and away, losing to FSU home and away, and then splitting w/ the other teams. Realistically we are looking at 7-5 in these games.
Wake Forest - Projected to finish 8
Georgia Tech - Projected to finish 15
Virginia Tech - Projected to finish 7
Louisville - Projected to finish 13
FSU - Projected to finish 5
NCSU - Projected to finish 10
We play the remaining teams only once. A 2-2 record on the road, and 2-2 record at home I believe is very attainable. That would make us 4-4 against the teams we only play once.
Pitt Away - Projected to finish 14
Duke Home - Projected to finish 2
BC Away - Projected to finish 12
Miami Home - Projected to finish 4
UNC Away - Projected to finish 1
Syracuse Home - Projected to finish 9
UVA Away - Projected to finish 3
ND Home - Projected to finish 6
That would put us at 11-9 overall in the ACC. That record was good for 7th overall last year. Again, I feel like I'm being realistic and even conservative here given our schedule. I believe we could do better. It's crazy to say, but 12-8 or even 13-7 season could realistically happen.
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Re: Byrnes Hall Ballers Ep. 2
Oct 31, 2022, 6:20 PM
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I love that you are “realistically” and “conservatively” picking Brownell to have his best ACC record ever this year. Without even picking an upset! So fair and balanced in your appraisal. You should go ahead and put some money on that 12-8 prediction. It’s a lock. Go for it.
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Re: Byrnes Hall Ballers Ep. 2
Oct 31, 2022, 6:49 PM
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I predict an 11-9 acc record. Which groupings of games do you disagree with and why? Or you just going to be a useless troll?
Also, brownell has bested a 60% win percentage in the ACC twice, so your statement is incorrect.
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Re: Byrnes Hall Ballers Ep. 2
Oct 31, 2022, 7:03 PM
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“I believe we could do better. It's crazy to say, but 12-8 or even 13-7 season could realistically happen.” - No, it can’t.
Brownell has finished above .500 five times. That’s basically 40% of the time. You have less than a coin flip. And this is not even close to one of his best teams. And, without the best player on the team for an indeterminate period of time. With Hall I think we’re returning less than 50% of minutes played. It might be the lowest returning minutes of his tenure - and that is with Hall’s minutes. If he was a first year coach and went .500 in the ACC with this squad he should be ACC and National Coach of the Year. Except that a 13th year head coach is sort of responsible for the quality of his players, not just how much he gets out of them.
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Re: Byrnes Hall Ballers Ep. 2
Oct 31, 2022, 7:44 PM
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Again, my prediction is 11-9. They could realistically finish a game or two above or below that.
Which grouping of games did you think I was off on?
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