bruh, don't play around.

this thread....you can't have your cake and eat it too. If you've (not you, just general) have been light on illegal immigration or wanted amnesty or wanted large visa increases, you have kept the very low wages you now complain about at the point where they are.

You been in a McDonalds lately, and if so, how much English did you hear being spoken by those behind the scenes? I see this everywhere. But it's what has kept minimum wage exactly where it is. The "Americans won't do the work" lines for agriculture, restaurant jobs, construction, etc....they're bogus. The accurate line is "Americans won't do the jobs at current wages". If you want to see market forces at work, crack down on illegal employers and you'd create a scenario where wages (and costs of goods sold, and prices, and some inflation) would have to occur if those businesses hoped to remain in business. We wouldn't have the wage stagnation across the board of the last 20 years.

But instead of solving that, which is virtually free from a handout perspective, the left (and apparently the right too) would rather solve it by yet another drunken sailor govt spending spree which does nothing but jack up prices in the short term, harm small businesses on a big scale, and throw another $5-10 trillion on the debt fire for our future offspring to fight and suffer over one day.

Again, it is completely insane that our own govt is spending our money to compete with our own country's businesses for employees, except they're paying them to do nothing. And don't think you're sticking it to Amazon or McDonalds...they can weather this. It's the place with 10-50 employees trying to keep the lights on that's feeling it the most.

Changes like this have to occur organically, and over time. Shocks to the system like this are neither natural nor good for business.

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You been in a McDonalds lately, and if so, how much English did you hear being spoken by those behind the scenes?

Oh hell no, ain't going in there. But in seriousness:

Look, I had a lot of issues with the COVID relief stuff. It seemed like wasteful Band-Aids on the people who were hurting and just little boosts for those who were fine. I mean, I get the whole "stimulate the economy" aspect of it, but there were some who just sat on it.

I see a double-edged problem. You had some people legitimately who needed an unemployment payment boost, but it creates the problem we're discussing. But that leads me to my other issue here: If an extra $300 a week is keeping a business from finding employees, the problem likely rests with the business. That should definitely be a wake-up call to say, McDonald's and Amazon, as you mention, on a CEOs-raking-in-stupid-amounts-of-cash level. But let's talk those small businesses.

We're generally mentioning local restaurants or other establishments that pay minimum wage. Well, maybe that signals a call to get their act together when it comes to paying employees. I know one restaurant owner in town who splurges on a lot of things. Great guy, good business man. But he's been buying up nice new shiny stuff like crazy for years. Now, he's complaining he can't get anyone to work for him. Maybe it's time for him to look a little inward.

There's a brewery in the Charleston area that pays all of its employees a living wage. They don't accept tips (or they give any tips to charity). My understanding is that people want to work there, and I think they're not having any trouble staffing people during this pandemic. They were doing this before COVID hit.

Maybe other local businesses should take note.

I'm not in favor of the government forcing hands in these situations, but now that they have, it may be time for some folks to adapt. People always follow the money.

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Shoot, I missed this. Did the government force them to?***

Re: Shoot, I missed this. Did the government force them to?***

Gosh, are you telling me...

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Re: Shoot, I missed this. Did the government force them to?***

That seems like a fancy description of supply and demand.***

In a Bizarro world, I suppose.

Your being kind. Taking taxpayer money to subsidize people

You're. ####.***

That's exactly what I'm saying, except they aren't even

We can examine the cause all we want, man...

Perhaps...

Like I've said for a long time and already alluded to in

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I am ok with it

Part of the reason for $15 is due to labor shortage

That won't happen until the handouts stop or normalize.

Lutz. Federal minimum wage is still $7.25. $9.65 in Michigan***

Also, Facebook memes on my feed comparing this...

I wish I could take credit for raising prices at your favorite

Competing with the government isn’t the free market***

Won't be long before the McDonalds of the world are almost

Re: Congrats Liberals

You guys should have a SMS system or something

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You know it's not really though, right?***

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