Brownell and Monte aren't cutting it. Period. Don't care WHO

Be more than welcome to try. It's not the players. I'm confident that each one has the will to win. In baseball, is the coach making the correct decisions to give the players their best chance at winning. Monte uses analytics to drive his decisions, best I can tell. Obviously I'm not on the bench, at practice with Brad or in the dugout with Monte.

Are both good coaches. Yes, probably somewhere. Monte had a good team at c of c. He brought those talents to Clemson and certainly he and Brad want to win.

What sets Dabo apart from both the other coaches is this. Talent and strengths. Dabo evolved with each class he brought in. Meticulous took inventory of the roster and designed offense and defense to give them the best chance to win. He also wasn't afraid to hire people around him to make him better.

Then Dabo created a culture, an identity. Dabo sold Clemson. He is a great salesman and manager. Obviously I personally don't see that in Monte or Brad. Why? The talent level has stagnated. Monte less than Brad. Brad's had 11 years to bring talent in and develop talent. How many 3 star or less players in football are making millions. A bunch that Dabo created. Has Monte or Brad done the same? Not really... Again imo and stats prove otherwise.

Brad's statement after the game was like Monte. Brad , we need to play better defense - duh . Monte, we need to hit better - duh.... It's the same wrotten speech year after year.

What Dabo say after west VA? We need to play better defense. Guess what, within 2 yrs he had Clemson d best in the nation. Nothing like that has happened with Brad or Monte and nothing gives me any hope that it will in the future. The future IS now for both. Both have had plenty of time to show improve and if anything, both have declined. Yeah, each have had 1 Good year but no sustainability.

Hth - sorry for the redundancy and long winded answer. Just trying to give my honest assessment.

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Mar 11, 2021, 12:49 PM [ in reply to Re: Ahh yes, the best is the standard quip. ]

Clemsongal,

I will let Judge handle your comments on basketball.

Baseball is the area where I am more invested and feel a little more qualified to speak.

I will address your comments in order.

Giving the players the best chance to win - Clemson is losing baseball games at the moment in large part due to not scoring runners from scoring position and not throwing enough strikes. I'm not sure how that is on the coaches unless you are calling for lineup or pitching rotation changes. Hitters have to get hits and pitchers have to make pitches. Striking out with a guy on 3rd is not a coaching error. Walking the 9 hitter and giving up a hit to the leadoff batter is not a coaching error.

Analytics - Baseball decision have been made using analytics since the game was created. Highest batting averages near the top of the lineup is using analytics. Pitchers who give up the least runs will pitch the most is an analytical decision. Guys struggling to hit but stay in the lineup because they are saving runs on defense is using a runs saved/runs created metric. Complaining about the use of analytics in baseball means you either don't know baseball or don't know what analytics means.

Monte did have good teams(plural) at CofC. Possibly the only thing I agree with you on in your post but wanted to specify that is was not a 1 year success that got him hired to Clemson.

I have personal knowledge of Monte's recruiting abilities from high school baseball players I'm in contact with. There isn't a head coach in the southeast who is more closely connected with his recruits or who is more active in the actual recruiting process. Scar's head coach doesn't speak to recruits except when he makes an offer. His assistants have to do all of the work. Kids come to Clemson because of Monte, not in spite of him. The same was true when Monte was an assistant but Clemson fans don't know that like they do about Dabo because Monte was never an assistant here.

Unless you want Monte to call out specific players during postgame pressers, there isn't much he can say other than "we need to hit better" or " we need to pitch better". I hope you know he is filling his obligation to the media so he can go back and tell him team what really happened and try to fix it.

Footballs adjustments after the WV loss don't translate exactly to baseball because you can't "scheme" an offense or defense in baseball. What Monte has done since the losses in regionals is try to recruit more power pitchers because that's what knocked them out of regionals in his first few years. We have a true freshman pitcher in the weekend rotation throwing 91-93 and another who is up to 95 but is struggling to pitch at the level he pitched all year long until the real games started. Seeing more power arms at Clemson instead of more Pat Krall type pitchers is a "WV game" type adjustment to our pitching staff.

I'm not sure why I keep seeing people say baseball has declined since Monte took over. He entered with the program scraping by to make regionals the last 3 seasons prior to his arrival. He then hosted regionals the first 3 years in Clemson (losing to future CWS teams in each) and was a 2 seed in his 4th year (not far off the host line again). His 5th season was cut short but was the best pitching rotation since he has been at Clemson and the results were showing that in the 1st 3rd of the season.

I typically like your posts, which is why I took the time to respond to all of these points about the baseball situation.

The team needs to get better. I think we agree on that point.

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