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Brad Brownell / What I am hearing

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Mar 11, 2022, 12:04 PM

I know everyone has opinions on what should happen with head basketball coach Brad Brownell, and I've been talking to sources and trying to figure out what is going to happen. As of right now, I don't think the school is going to make a move in another direction. Brownell was signed to a contract extension back in October, and it goes through 2026. There is a buyout right now of $50,000 per month through the remainder of the contract, and I think that comes out to around $2.4 million. Everything I am hearing is that a move won't be made by the school and that we should hear something official by next week.

Now, that doesn't mean that Brownell can't make a decision on his own. I haven't heard anything that would suggest that, but just throwing it out there that he can make a decision different from the school.

That's what we've heard and I will let you know if I hear different.

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Thanks for the update.***

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Mar 11, 2022, 12:08 PM

50k a month… that’s a lot of money.

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Mar 11, 2022, 12:09 PM



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You are not correct on the buyout

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Mar 11, 2022, 12:12 PM

it is

The following are the buyout numbers:

Termination in contract year 5/1/21 – 4/30/22: $50,000 per month remaining
Termination in contract year 5/1/22 – 4/30/23: $65,000 per month remaining
Termination in contract year 5/1/23 - 4/30/24: $85,000 per month remaining
Termination in contract year 5/1/24 – 4/30/25: $125,000 per month remaining
Termination in contract year 5/1/25 – 4/30/26: $250,000 per month remaining

So...
If he gets fired March 2022 he is owed $50,000 * 50 months = $2,500,000
If he gets fired March 2023 he is owed $65,000 * 38 months = $2,470,000
If he gets fired March 2024 he is owed $85,000 * 26 months = $2,210,000
If he gets fired March 2025 he is owed $125,000 * 14 months = $1,750,000


So there is ZERO financial gain to keep him around for another year to toil in mediocrity vs firing him this second, which is what should and needs to happen!

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Re: You are not correct on the buyout

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Mar 11, 2022, 12:31 PM

If these are true, it looks as advantageous to let him go now than any other time in the future.

Sucking this bad should require change, but only if there is plausible reason to assume the next person will do better. Don't just do it to do it. We need the right guy for Clemson

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Mar 11, 2022, 12:31 PM

I don’t think He was trying to be precise. He was just speaking In generalities! You on the other hand came across as someone who likes to show how much He knows.. that’s putting it nicely.

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Like the blonde guy inside the bar in......


Mar 11, 2022, 12:35 PM

Good Will Hunting who wants to impress the college girls with how smart he is only to have Matt Damon's character put him in his place.

But I do agree that David Hood was just being general.

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Mar 11, 2022, 8:44 PM

For the love of God, don’t give him an extension!

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Mar 11, 2022, 12:15 PM

Brad got one heck of a deal. I will give him that.

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Re: Glad to know I can keep next season free to do other things.***


Mar 12, 2022, 12:40 PM

And Clemson got one more take this by D Rar

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Re: Glad to know I can keep next season free to do other things.***


Mar 11, 2022, 6:54 PM

Go bowling. It's good exercise. And we won't miss you.

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Mar 12, 2022, 2:22 AM

But you will blame him for not showing up and supporting the program for the lack of success.

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Mar 11, 2022, 12:12 PM

Yeah, Jeff Borzello from espn just reported that insiders are saying now the job will not likely open up now after the 5 game winning streak.

Now, maybe Brad wants out like you reported, but who knows?

There are chances maybe he wants a new start somewhere else.

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It would take a certain type of stupid, if we are keeping

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Mar 11, 2022, 12:15 PM

a coach because he had a 5 game winning streak, in a terrible ACC, against terrible teams after starting the season 12-15.

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Especially after losing 6 in a row and 10 of 12.

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Mar 11, 2022, 12:21 PM

Which effectively took us out of the tournament and put us in a what have you got to lose situation.

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Re: Especially after losing 6 in a row and 10 of 12.


Mar 11, 2022, 12:53 PM

True. Let's just ignore the fact that his 2 best players were out with injuries during that streak.

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Not accurate….

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Mar 11, 2022, 1:04 PM

We actually won games without both of them….mainly against other cellar dwellers.
Hall played several games while Tyson was out that we lost.
We were not in a good position even before the Tyson injury.
This team did not get it done this season…bottom line.
This team lost multiple games at full strength and had very few notable wins.

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False. PJ Hall played every game during that stretch.

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Mar 11, 2022, 1:08 PM

He played 1 minute in the loss to Louisville, which was the last game of that stretch. He averaged over 30 minutes per game during the losing streak.

He missed most of the loss to Louisville on February 19th and then all of the wins against Wake Forest, Boston College, and Georgia Tech. He returned for limited minutes for the win against Virginia Tech March 5th.

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Re: Especially after losing 6 in a row and 10 of 12.

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Mar 11, 2022, 4:40 PM

What are the excuses for the other 11 years?

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None of the people on here watch basketball


Mar 11, 2022, 6:55 PM

The lunatic fringe just needs to go back to bitching about Dabo, his hires, and the fact that every recruit isn't a five star.

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Re: It would take a certain type of stupid, if we are keeping

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Mar 11, 2022, 12:22 PM

Johnny99 said:

a coach because he had a 5 game winning streak, in a terrible ACC, against terrible teams after starting the season 12-15.


I agree. I think that might be just an excuse. Neff just might need more time as the top AD to see how things go. But a lame reason just because they had a winning streak. Think it might also be a star like PJ Hall coming back. Needs to be judged on whole body of work.
Who know why might happen when Brad meets with Neff on the season review in a few weeks.

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It's not like Neff is new to the University...

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Mar 11, 2022, 12:41 PM

He's been here for the past nine years.

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... and he's supposed to be a basketball guy.

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Mar 11, 2022, 12:50 PM

Surprised he's not better prepared to do his job. Remember how quickly Dabo went about changing the culture of Clemson football? Dude was totally prepared and had a tremendous sense of urgency to be great.

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Just a guess, but...

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Mar 11, 2022, 12:56 PM

I'm betting this decision is coming from above and is beyond Neff's control.

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Mar 11, 2022, 1:36 PM

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I'm betting this decision is coming from above and is beyond Neff's control.




Yes, Clements is a big proponent of Brad Brownell. Brad still has many baskers I guess.

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Re: It would take a certain type of stupid, if we are keeping

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Mar 11, 2022, 12:27 PM

And some terrible fans...

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So you're saying that...

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Mar 11, 2022, 3:31 PM

...being remarkably consistent at being remarkably inconsistent...for 12 years (!!!) is the fan's fault.

Right.

Keep aiming for nothing. You'll keep getting it.

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So they're basing the decision on the last five games...

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Mar 11, 2022, 12:37 PM

as opposed to the last 12 years?

That should really give everyone a lot of confidence in the new AD...sheesh !!!!




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Re: So they're basing the decision on the last five games...

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Mar 11, 2022, 3:35 PM

No kidding. I really like Brownell and I really liked Tommy Bowden. But wins are the measure, not being a good guy.

I just don't get it.

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Mar 11, 2022, 4:11 PM

Hope he wants out. He is not capable of winning here and adm does not care. He must be playtoy for someone in adm

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Mar 15, 2022, 10:57 AM

We couldn’t get that lucky....lol

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Mar 11, 2022, 12:14 PM

Thanks. So our powersto be are happy with a sub mediocre basketball program and coach. So disappointing. Has to be even more disappointing to the players who want to win at a high level.

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Does he have other opportunities that will pay him $2.5M+

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Mar 11, 2022, 12:18 PM

lake house, boats and cars?

He's not going anywhere unless we fire him. We may as well give him a lifetime contract.

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This is great news

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Mar 11, 2022, 12:23 PM

I will continue to do my part by stirring up controversy about this and other topics to help with traffic.

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Agreed…

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Mar 11, 2022, 12:28 PM

This is going to be good news, either way.

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Mar 11, 2022, 12:32 PM

is a bad attitude.



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Mar 11, 2022, 6:57 PM

And there are plenty of those bad attitudes on this board. And people who know nothing about the history of Clemson basketball.

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Mar 11, 2022, 12:23 PM

Make a decision on his own? Ha, Clownell knows nobody major program their right mind would hire him. Clemson basketball is his last stop, he’s gonna ride it off into the sunset as long as the administration will keep him around and be happy with finishing 6 to 10 in the conference every year…

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Mar 11, 2022, 12:29 PM

Cdixon11 said:

Make a decision on his own? Ha, Clownell knows nobody major program their right mind would hire him. Clemson basketball is his last stop, he’s gonna ride it off into the sunset as long as the administration will keep him around and be happy with finishing 6 to 10 in the conference every year…



Yeah, but he might to go to a lower level mid major type job. Some coaches just get tired of not being liked by a lot of the fan base. Turgeon resigned in the middle of season at Maryland and their are rumors might take a job at a lower level.

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I haven't seen the pressure of fan expectations create

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Mar 11, 2022, 12:33 PM

any sense of urgency for Brad Brownell. He has zero sense of urgency and the personality of a turnip.

He handles himself like a guy who knows there is no pressure whatsoever on him. He's not going anywhere unless we shitcan him.

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Mar 11, 2022, 12:40 PM

This is exactly right. Makes millions of dollars, no sense of urgency, and if he botched a game he’ll just blame his players, and nobody does anything about it

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Mar 11, 2022, 1:00 PM

Plus he’s got a guy like Walt to prop him up on the radio airwaves to thousands. I’m

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Mar 11, 2022, 12:24 PM

What would Neville Chamberlain do?

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Mar 11, 2022, 1:17 PM

Appeasement

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Depressing***

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Mar 11, 2022, 12:32 PM

As I said in an earlier post, there is no need to be talking about coach so and so when there is no vacancy in our basketball program.

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and if that turns out to be the case...

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Mar 11, 2022, 12:28 PM

it will be yet another clear indication of the priority level university administration places on the hoops program. Apparently, they're all content with mediocrity and only making the NCAA tournament twice in the last eleven years. It's abundantly clear that the expression "best is the standard" is only lip service at least as it pertain to both men's and wimminz basketball.

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Mar 11, 2022, 3:34 PM

Make coach sit in his office all day everyday, without a phone or computer and no visitors. He will quit sooner or later I think.

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Mar 11, 2022, 12:41 PM

Because he’s made him a wealthy man.

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Thanks David! Is next year the make or break year?

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Mar 11, 2022, 12:42 PM

Would think that w/out a contract extension next year Brownell would be a little bit hamstrung w/ regards to recruiting.

IMHO this is the year to make a change, down year in ACC, new regimes at UNC and next year at Duke. Of course battling other openings could be a challenge in bringing in someone new.

Nothing against Brad, just seems BB has become stale and each game is like deja vu all over again.

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Re: Thanks David! Is next year the make or break year?

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Mar 11, 2022, 12:49 PM

I tbink a lot of it comes down to Neff being on the job just a couple of months. He is trying to learn as much as he can about all of his responsibilities. If he was here longer think he would be wanting his guy at the program.
I do think if the goal of not making the NCAAT next season is not met, they will go their separate ways.

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Re: Thanks David! Is next year the make or break year?

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Mar 11, 2022, 6:49 PM

Man has been here for years. If he is not prepared then we don’t have a good AD

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We've had 12 years of his leadership...

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Mar 11, 2022, 12:54 PM

I think it's more than fair to say, from a make or break standpoint, we already know exactly what we're getting.

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Mar 11, 2022, 12:48 PM

Thanks David.

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Disappointing, but predictable. FWIW, I raised the

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Mar 11, 2022, 1:16 PM

possibility of Brownell resigning himself a few weeks ago. I don't know if he will, but I have no doubt that he is a good, honest man of high integrity, and he has to know that he has taken this program as far as he can take it and done all he can possibly do at Clemson. I could actually see him moving into some other role in the athletic department. Clearly the university has totally given up on basketball if he is retained another year, which was already evident, I guess, but every additional year is just salt in the wound.

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Re: Disappointing, but predictable. FWIW, I raised the

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Mar 11, 2022, 1:53 PM

He’s not going to leave the program on his own. We pay him a butt ton of money with no expectation whatsoever. If I could be as bad at my job as he is at his and make a quarter of what he’s making I would be thrilled

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That's the most likely scenario, for sure.***

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Mar 11, 2022, 1:26 PM

Why would a AD increase the buyout of a coach that needs to be fired , only for the the same A.D. to bolt for another job that will be competing against the previous mentioned over compensated coach.

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Are you talking about the same AD who hired...

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Mar 11, 2022, 1:41 PM

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Mar 11, 2022, 1:41 PM

If true, and I suspect it is, it is a really sad comment on the administration's commitment to the basketball program. Which is zero.

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Mar 11, 2022, 2:08 PM

What do you think the chances are that Brad wants to move on and try something else. Maybe the university knows something we don't. I agree with you though, seems pretty sad to keep dragging this on.

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Sigh...***

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Mar 11, 2022, 2:19 PM

The simple solution is…….

pay a former professional entertainer from Tiger Tails $50 to slip into Brads office when he’s taking his 1-4pm nap, have the entertainer begin to perform just as the Clemson video department is filming another episode of “a day in the life of Brad” .

Offer Brad the opportunity to resign with no buyout and he gets most of the copies of the video and he can keep the entertainer

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Pain!

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Mar 11, 2022, 2:20 PM

Have to live with mediocrity once again!

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Mar 11, 2022, 2:34 PM

Brad Is not going to be fired ……. this season.

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If accurate, this saddens me.

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Mar 11, 2022, 2:44 PM

Clearly, it is way past time to give someone else a shot. Brad did his best, but never moved the needle.
I sent a letter to both iptay and Graham Neff expressing my hopes that Clemson should show that we care about basketball. Not making a move, clearly tells us their stance. Not expecting it to change his opinion, but I needed to get it off my chest.
Neffg at Clemson.edu if you are inclined.

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being the most over paid coach in the NCAA i don't think

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Mar 11, 2022, 2:45 PM

he will be going anywhere on his own, Nobody is going to hire him away

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Mar 11, 2022, 3:02 PM

called ad dept and spoke to neffs assistant. she said they have been fielding numerous emails and phone calls this week. says neff actually does read emails - for what it’s worth. she gave me his email and we talked for a bit. he called her while we were on phone. heard her say “fielding tons” - now, that could be code for something very different. but, my guess is that it was in regards to this “vanilla” program.

told her obviously i feel program is stale and stagnant (wash, rinse, repeat) - first time not going to lj since - well, can’t even remember.
can’t believe how cool she was. very understanding and says that is the crux of the calls and emails and neff is reading and may respond. not holding breath on that one - he’s a busy dude. she spoke very highly of neff.
again, just a 10 minute phone call, but you could tell in her kindness that she is dealing with a lot of resignation and concern. she was very empathetic and genuinely wanted feedback and is concerned. but, i also know that’s her job. she sat on the phone asking questions so i find that extremely cool.

so, who knows….
maybe he’ll show some backbone and step away.

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Mar 11, 2022, 3:07 PM

Wow, great to know Neff and his assistant do that!

DRad was not that way at all. Just got generic responses on emails. Could tell templated response.

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Mar 11, 2022, 3:15 PM

I sent him an email after we lost 3 straight to UNC, Duke and Notre Dame and he emailed back. I've had great interactions with him so far. Seems like a great guy and you could tell it was actually his response.

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DRAD was kind enough to respond to my email when I

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Mar 11, 2022, 3:16 PM

expressed my concerns about Brad's inability to recruit and develop talent at a level that could sustain success. Suffice it to say, we disagreed on most things. <img border=">

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Thanks David!!!!!***

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Mar 11, 2022, 4:08 PM

I have never seen a school that cares less about BB than Clemson. Being near lady does not seem to bother the adm. Neff starting off on the wrong foot

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Mar 11, 2022, 4:09 PM

How ever they want to frame it is fine with me. It's time to move on.

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Deer David Hood: Please find some different sources. What

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Mar 11, 2022, 4:28 PM

you say you are hearing is VERY depressing about the future of Clemson basketballs.

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I’m sure Evansville and Indiana State are gonna try to steal him away from us!

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Mar 11, 2022, 4:33 PM

These are gonna be trying times!!!

~JKB

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Clemson continues to prove they do not care about basketball

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Mar 11, 2022, 6:32 PM

And I will continue right along with them.

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Mar 11, 2022, 7:21 PM

The thing that hurts is that this is the time to go get a better coach because the ACC is at an all time low.
You are giving other ACC schools chances to let go of their coach before Clemson does and get the better coaches first.
Also, some ACC schools have already hired up and coming coaches at programs that were bellow Clemson. Steve Forbes at Wake Forest, and Earl Grant are off to great starts in building a winning culture, and recruiting. Earl Grant's had a a very impressive ACC Tournament winning two games, and has a top 20 recruiting class coming in next season. What is it going look like when Earl Grant, Brad's former assistant surpasses Clemson as a program at BC?

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I think you people enjoy being miserable

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Mar 11, 2022, 7:07 PM

What a bunch of negative garbage. Like the torch crowd in a Frankenstein movie wanting to claim a victim at all costs. I don't support the program, not going to support the program, hate the coach, hate the uniforms, hate the popcorn, not ever going back to LJ, blah, blah, blah. In the grand scheme of things, all of the negative spewing on here just doesn't matter. If you don't want to support the program that's your choice. But if that's your approach, you obviously don't care about Clemson. And I dare say none of you, absolutely none of you, would say the crap you say on this board to CBB's face. You all hide behind a keyboard.

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Mar 11, 2022, 7:28 PM

I signed my name to my letter to Neff and wouldn’t hesitate for him to share my concerns with the coach. I would be happy to speak directly with Coach Brownell if the opportunity arose.

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Mar 11, 2022, 8:36 PM

I’m curious. What was the content of the letter to Neff?

What would you say in your “private meeting” with Coach Brownell?

What foundation would you rely upon to obtain this meeting?


Thanks. I find this fascinating.

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Mar 11, 2022, 8:25 PM

I have never understood the “you wouldn’t say it to their face “ crowd. My question is , why wouldn’t I.

If I walked up to you and called you everything I could think of, what happens. Are you saying there would be violence?

Again, , your saying if i told Brad he needs to be replaced, he would hit me? Have me rubbed out? Would he call an ill-advised timeout and send 6 players out of a huddle as opposed to the required 5 and receive a technical?

I need to know what happens!

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Mar 11, 2022, 8:54 PM

Exactly! Some us aren’t some 5’8, 350lb fatty hiding behind a keyboard.

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BRAD LEAVING

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Mar 11, 2022, 8:58 PM

I'm sure there are numerous Div 1 schools calling everyday asking permission to interview Brad for a Head Coaching job. He probably has his pick of where he wants to go next.

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The buyouts reported by both USA Today and ESPN


Mar 11, 2022, 9:48 PM

said $25k/mo if terminated at the end of this season(~$1.2mil) and then it would go up on 5/1. Were both of those reports just incorrect in October when the extension was signed?

https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/49251029


https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/32318299/clemson-men-basketball-coach-brad-brownell-reach-two-year-extension


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FFS***


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If true I am done with basketball. Wake me when Clemson

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Mar 11, 2022, 10:55 PM

cares about it again.

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Thank you for the update.

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Mar 11, 2022, 10:56 PM

It’s sad that we’re okay with being mediocre. Coach Brownell’s record speaks for itself. He’s been here long enough and it’s time for a change. We need fresh blood to lead the program.

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Mar 11, 2022, 11:32 PM

Thanks for the update. Wish he’d just leave

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Mar 12, 2022, 7:27 AM

Brownell will be back next year. He has the nucleus to have a decent team next year. However, does anyone truly expect after 12 years, BB is suddenly going to develop the charisma and salesmanship to go into the home of an outstanding HS player and sell himself, the school and how the kid can be the one or two kids to change the entire dynamic.Can he bring in the equivalent of a CJ Spiller or Sammy Watkins?

I don't. He is who he is. Until we hire a coach who has a dynamic personality and can win over the kids and their moms and dads, we will continue to be mediocre with the occasional good year. Recruiting is every bit as important as X's and O's.

It's time to hire a young, smart and dynamic coach willing to go hard into homes and improve the quality of the player we bring into the BB program.

Why after 12 years does anyone expect BB to do just that? It's just not who he is. He has been given a very long leash. He has been fairly treated. The status quo will result in just that, except maybe next year we have a little run and then back to being in the back end of the ROY bus.


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Mar 12, 2022, 10:29 AM

First of All, what is the value of "Winning" to Clemson? Next as a proud Tiger
Class of 82' and father/father in law of classes of 2009 & 2010 (2), I loved watching all
the Greats come to Clemson (Jordan, Worthy, all of Duke).
I was at Clemson when Tree Rollins was there. My son class of 10' chose Winning
over alma mater loyalty and actually sat in student section with his Duke
apparel on and actually was caught on ESPN a couple of times.
The point here is "Winning", we had No Clue Dabo would turn out to be the
Winner and now Legend he is, but we did what we had to for Winning sake.
So answer me this? Is Clemson University/Brand better off today because we
paid the buyout to separate Bowden from Clemson? I think All In folks know
the answer! We are at the same crossroads, Brownell Must Go!
$2.5M is nothing to Clemson, heck if needed borrow it from Dabo. Better yet
Double Dabo's salary and let him coach BB too. I guarantee you Dabo would have
Won the other night against VA Tech.
Absolutely unforgivable up 2 points with 6.7 seconds and you don't full court
press and/or foul to make them beat you (actually tie) at the foul line.
We must choose Winning! Winning will cover a measly $2.5M
Furthermore, if Brownell really cares about his players, he will negotiate an
Amiable exit.
Again I Say Choose Winning!!!

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Mar 12, 2022, 1:08 PM

Well guess we are I stuck with him. Please no more extensions. No one is beating down our door for Brownell. Just let him coach out his contract or at least until 2024. Then we should be able to afford the buy out.

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