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Biggest 5 star bust over the past 10 yrs
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Biggest 5 star bust over the past 10 yrs

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Feb 3, 2022, 9:45 AM

In no particular order

Mike Bellamy Running Back 2011
- Played one year. 343 yds 3 TDs

Chad Kelly QB 2012
- Played one year 58 yds passing 0 TDs
* did pass for 4042 in 2015 after 1 yr at JUCO. Was drafted as Mr. Irreverent in the draft 2017

Hunter Johnson QB 2017
- Played one year. 234 yds passing 2 TDs
* played 2 yrs at Northwestern avg 428 yds passing and 2.5 TDs each yr

Joe Nagata WR 2019
- Played 3 seasons Avg 250 yds and 1.3 TDs per year
* Was injured 2020 and 2021

Demarkcus Bowman 2020
- played one yr 32 yds 0 TDs
* Transfered to Florida. Stats 81 yds o TDs

Do you agree? Who did i miss?

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Feb 3, 2022, 9:49 AM

It was 2001 when he signed but Roscoe Crosby.

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Feb 3, 2022, 9:54 AM

I would not put Ngata in that list. He still has plenty of time to prove that he is a five star or six star.

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Its possible as he should start....but

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Feb 3, 2022, 10:16 AM

Beaux Collins was emerging as the new deep threat at the end of the season
EJ Williams looks strong
Dacari Collins was stepping up in Joe's absence
Plus we got 2 strong WRs Antonio Williams and Adam Randall coming in

But will see

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Feb 3, 2022, 11:46 AM

100% agreed. But I wouldn’t put Ngata on a list of busts.

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Could be, but for us he was a BUST!***

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Feb 3, 2022, 1:13 PM



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Re: Biggest 5 star bust over the past 10 yrs

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Feb 3, 2022, 11:58 AM

Yes that was horrible. Was so pumped when we signed him. Not sure whatever happened to the guy but do not believe he made it in baseball or football.

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Feb 3, 2022, 8:23 PM

Roscoe was a five star-And I think he was the overall number one or number three Prospect per rivals -If I remember it was between him and the Williams kid Receiver who I believe went to Washington Huskies. Roscoe had it rough with injuries that his friends die in a car wreckHis freshman year. He was playing like a five star receiver his last few games and had the physical tools to be the best receiver ever at Clemson with His size and speed and hands.

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Feb 3, 2022, 12:01 PM

And I think he was a four-star, our recruiting was so bad we were overjoyed to get a four-star recruit

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Feb 3, 2022, 12:54 PM

Crosby was a 5 star for sure. There may have been some random services back then that had him as a 4 but I 100% remember him being a 5 star. I even want to say he may have been ranked as the #1 receiver in the country by at least one service but I may be wrong about that part.

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Feb 3, 2022, 2:13 PM

Think you are correct 03. Probably a top 10 prospect overall. He was a big deal back then

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I don't remember CK being a 5 star. Thought he was 3 star...

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Feb 3, 2022, 10:09 AM

But I only pay attention to Rivals. The other ones make no sense to me.

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Re: Biggest 5 star bust over the past 10 yrs


Feb 3, 2022, 10:12 AM

I would add RB Archie Golden from the 70's. He had a five star name.

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Feb 3, 2022, 10:13 AM

I think Ngata can still be really good if he can stay healthy!

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But the odds of that happening are REAL low IMO***


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Feb 3, 2022, 10:22 AM

I didn't think Kelly was a 5, thought he was a 4 star. Maybe wrong though. Willy Korn was biggest bust in my book.

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Korn is exempt from bust status.

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Feb 3, 2022, 10:27 AM

he tore his throwing shoulder up... Qbs are usually not the same player after they do that. We never really got to see him play healthy except for a couple of snaps against sc state or so in his first games ever.

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Re: Korn is exempt from bust status.

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Feb 3, 2022, 11:43 AM

i think it was a GT game

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He broke his collarbone vs Furman the year before and

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Feb 3, 2022, 12:20 PM

he didn't get his broken collarbone fixed during the season because we didn't have a back-up for Cullen Harper...The GT game was his second major injury

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Re: Korn is exempt from bust status.

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Feb 3, 2022, 12:10 PM

A painful disappointment for Willy and Clemson!
Willy and Jeff Mills both had great potential, but career damaging injuries were unfortunate.
Not their fault, but we will never know.......

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Kelly was a 4* on Rivals***

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Feb 3, 2022, 12:43 PM



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Feb 3, 2022, 10:24 AM

Joe Ngata was a 4 star.

Chad Kelly was a 4 star.

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Ngata was most definitely a 5 star when we got him

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Feb 3, 2022, 10:28 AM

whether they changed him to a 4, i don't know. But he and Frank Ladsen were both 5 star recruits on our board. Kelly i believe was a 4, never remember him as a 5 star get.

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Re: Ngata was most definitely a 5 star when we got him

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Feb 3, 2022, 12:00 PM

He was generally considered a 4 star.

He was the 52nd rated player in HS


https://247sports.com/player/joe-ngata-92472/


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Re: Ngata was most definitely a 5 star when we got him

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Feb 3, 2022, 12:04 PM

Frank Ladson was more borderline. It depends where you look.


https://247sports.com/player/frank-ladson-46036916/


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Re: Ngata was most definitely a 5 star when we got him

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Feb 3, 2022, 12:04 PM

He just needs to get healthy. Does not play enough to say one way or the other at least in my mind.

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Re: Ngata was most definitely a 5 star when we got him

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Feb 3, 2022, 12:48 PM

I definitely think Ngata could off and be great if healthy. I wonder Ladson the way he dropped everything. I didnt see it at all from him.

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Re: Ngata was most definitely a 5 star when we got him

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Feb 3, 2022, 12:25 PM

Ngata was 5 star on rivals

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2019/joe-ngata-182067


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Re: Ngata was most definitely a 5 star when we got him

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Feb 3, 2022, 12:47 PM

He wasn't considered a consensus 5 star though. He wasn't like Bellamy and Bowman. Those guys were supposed to be locks. I consider a 5 star where everyone has them 5 star. Like I said, some people didn't see Ngata that way at 247. I think it was just Rivals that had him that way.

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Not sure I agree with having players currently on the roster

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Re: Not sure I agree with having players currently on the roster

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Feb 3, 2022, 11:25 AM

^^^^THIS. Unfair and counterproductive.

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Now with the transfer portal we may need to redefine bust.

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Feb 3, 2022, 11:03 AM

Like Derion Kendrick... he was pretty good, but we grew him and he ended up helping beat us and helped our enemy grab a natty.

That's worse than a bust somehow. Respect to him. No hard feelings.... but d@mn.

Why did he have to do that PI against LSU when we were turning things around? WHYYYYYYY

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Re: Now with the transfer portal we may need to redefine bust.

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Feb 3, 2022, 12:00 PM

You know he played QB in high school and we tried him at wide receiver before moving him to DB. He had some personal issues but he was one heck of an athlete imo.

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Whatever happened to Brian Staley from the 2003 class?***

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Re: Biggest 5 star bust over the past 10 yrs

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Feb 3, 2022, 11:11 AM

Shaq Smith

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Hunter Johnson & Shaq Smith

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Feb 3, 2022, 12:19 PM

Both didn't get to see the field early and as 5-star players you kind of expect them to. You understand more with Johnson seeing as TL16 was here.

Shaw Smith - was in line to do big things at Clemson; but apparently got homesick and transferred back up to Maryland. He never lived up to the hype.

Johnson - I am hoping comes back this year and puts it all together! At least, enough to make the competition for starting QB "something that makes everybody better"!

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thats a good one, forgot about him. he was top ten

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Feb 3, 2022, 1:50 PM

overall in the country. They said he just couldn't pick up on concepts or something like that. Great athlete and hard hitter but if you're in the wrong place all the time what does it matter.

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Feb 3, 2022, 4:05 PM

Ditto on Shaq Smith

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Hunter J, and DJ at this point***


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Feb 3, 2022, 11:46 AM

Chad Kelly was not a 5 star. Keep current players off the list. Jury is out on bowman he could still have a great career. Obviously Bellamy was a bust.

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Feb 3, 2022, 11:47 AM

We had an option QB from Louisiana in the late 80s, he was a bust, maybe Michael Carr?

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Great Memory - He was in a Bio Lab along with ...


Feb 3, 2022, 4:22 PM

Chris Garocki, Norris Brown, Chester McClockton, several others from Danny's rock star recruiting class of '88. Dexter Davis was my lab partner. Carr was a prima donna. He dressed like he was going clubbing when he graced us with his presence (rarely) at 12:30 lab. I don't even think he finished the fall semester of 88 at Clemson.

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Milton Jennings

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Feb 3, 2022, 11:51 AM

This one was easy

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Re: Milton Jennings

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Feb 3, 2022, 12:03 PM

Glad I read through the whole post because this was who I was going to bring up. Dang he was horrible and hate to talk about a kid and it wasn’t his fault he was listed a 5 star but it did not take long to realize that was incorrect.

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all timer***

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Feb 3, 2022, 11:52 AM

Who was the dt from South Carolina a few years ago? He was a 5 star committed to Clemson and transferred to South Carolina in like 2 months. He is a truck driver now.

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Feb 3, 2022, 12:08 PM

Belk

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Feb 3, 2022, 3:12 PM


Who was the dt from South Carolina a few years ago? He was a 5 star committed to Clemson and transferred to South Carolina in like 2 months. He is a truck driver now.


Josh "Gravy Cramps" Belk....

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Re: Biggest 5 star bust over the past 10 yrs


Feb 3, 2022, 11:52 AM

Are we ignoring the elephant in the room?

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Re: Biggest 5 star bust over the past 10 yrs

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Feb 3, 2022, 2:27 PM

You can hide behind the 'I'm innocent, don't criticize me on the internet' BS, but everyone knows from your previous posts who you are referencing.

Make a belated New Year's resolution to stop being an A_ _.

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Feb 3, 2022, 11:53 AM

Yourself ilif you are talking about BIG LOSERS!!!! A grown ### adult insulting current college player is a special kind of idiot!!!!

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Feb 3, 2022, 12:04 PM

Who are you talking about? I asked a question. I didn’t mention anything about a player, past or present. What lead you to a conclusion like that? Hmmmm

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Feb 3, 2022, 12:07 PM

Well get off the post. It’s general conversation on kids that did not live up to the hype. No one is bashing anyone. Truth is what it is.

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Re: Biggest 5 star bust over the past 10 yrs

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Feb 3, 2022, 12:02 PM

Joe Ngata was really not considered a consensus 5 star. Generally a 4 star. 52nd rated player in HS.


https://247sports.com/player/joe-ngata-92472/


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Feb 3, 2022, 12:02 PM

I think Mike Bellamy was the biggest disappointment

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Feb 3, 2022, 12:49 PM

Mine too.

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Weren't both of the Ford brothers 5-star players?***

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Feb 3, 2022, 1:17 PM



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Feb 3, 2022, 2:18 PM

Lord I hope not. Not sure we recruited any 5 stars in that era.

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Helll, those guys were barely one-stars!!!!!!!!***

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Feb 3, 2022, 2:23 PM



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Depends on your definition of "Bust".........

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Feb 3, 2022, 1:35 PM

To me a bust is:
-Somebody who didn't have significant injuries to hinder their play on the field
-Nobody was "ahead of them" on the depth chart giving them adequate opportunity for play
-The talent never showed on the field

I'd probably agree with:
Hunter Johnson
Ngata - he shows flashes, but not consistent
Bowman


some commonly mislabeled as "busts" IMO
-Willie Korn - after his shoulder injury he was never the same.....I think he was a 5star talent prior to.

-Mike Bellamy - he was absolutely electric when given PT and touches.....his head prevented him from sticking around.........he was a 5star talent though

-Chad Kelly - he was a 4star first of all......he was very talented, but had a crowded QB room. He did pretty decent at Ole Miss. I think his 4star rating was accurate.

-Roscoe Crosby - Talent wise he was great, but juggling baseball and personal issues hindered his football progress at Clemson.

-Tony Steward - once he was finally healthy from multiple ACL injuries he was good.

-stephone anthony - he took a little longer than most 5stars to make a significant impact, but once he did he lived up to billing.

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Re: Depends on your definition of "Bust".........

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Feb 3, 2022, 2:22 PM

Kelly was a head case as well I believe. He came in with a cocky attitude (which can be a good thing) but he rubbed me the wrong way.

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Shaq Smith qualifies I would think***

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Feb 3, 2022, 2:24 PM



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How does Ngata make it but DJ doesn’t?


Feb 3, 2022, 7:00 PM

????????????????????? Roscoe Crosby for sure

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Hunter Johnson


Feb 3, 2022, 9:18 PM

He's not done yet. He could possibly play a significant role for us this year.

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