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All-In [30593]
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BCS could be a mess in this final year.... no one is talking
Sep 30, 2013, 10:38 AM
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about Oklahoma...
All the talk about Oregon, SEC champion, OSU, etc... Oklahoma toughest remaining game is at Baylor. If they run the table, they are in the mix.
They have no championship game, so that could be interesting.
You could have an undefeated Clemson, Oregon, OSU, and Oklahoma...
and a one loss SEC champion... who, if UGA, would have an argument against everyone but CU.
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Playoffs can't get here soon enough IMO***
Sep 30, 2013, 10:39 AM
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Orange Blooded [3908]
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1 loss SEC team will not jump an undefeated team...
Sep 30, 2013, 10:39 AM
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...from ACC, PAC, Big10, or Big12.
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Oculus Spirit [81897]
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I see a 12-1 UGA above everyone but Clemson, Oregon,
Sep 30, 2013, 10:41 AM
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or Stanford if undefeated.
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agreed***
Sep 30, 2013, 10:43 AM
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Oculus Spirit [81897]
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The way I'm envisioning it will be an undefeated Bama or
Sep 30, 2013, 10:44 AM
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a 1-loss LSU Georgia would be beating.
So yes, I think that game would vault them to above everyone but the three I listed.
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Legend [15749]
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I don't know what WOULD happen, but what SHOULD happen,
Sep 30, 2013, 11:12 AM
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in my opinion, is that no undefeated teams in the ACC, Big 10, Big 12 or PAC-12 should be jumped by a one-loss team from anywhere. MAYBE over Louiville, but none from any of those "Big 5" conferences.
If we were lucky enough to go undefeated this year and got jumped by any one loss team, I'd give up on college football.
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I believe Bama and Oregon will stay 1-2 if undefeated...
Sep 30, 2013, 10:40 AM
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Doesn't matter how many other are undefeated. Now, if one of them falls, then you open it up to Clemson, Ohio St., Oklahoma, etc. An undefeated Clemson would be the class of those, IMO, and I think the polls would bear that out.
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Oculus Spirit [81897]
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Clemson would jump an undefeated Oregon.
Sep 30, 2013, 10:42 AM
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If we don't do the jump after beating a top 15 South Carolina on the road, it'll be after beating a top 15 Miami in the ACCG.
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No way. Oregon is higher in human polls, and will have
Sep 30, 2013, 10:44 AM
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A higher computer rating due to SOS.
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Oculus Spirit [81897]
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Clemson's SoS will be higher than Oregon's, and the human
Sep 30, 2013, 10:45 AM
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polls will have has near even.
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It will be close on the computers. Human polls
Sep 30, 2013, 10:47 AM
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will have a clear demarcation between the two, IMO.
According to my ratings, Oregon's current SOS is 39, Clemson's is 17. Their remaining schedule? Oregon's is #2, Clemson's #20.
The PAC-12 utterly dominating OOC play will be an enormous boost to Oregon and their SOS.
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It really depends on what FSU, SCU, and the coastal champion
Sep 30, 2013, 10:48 AM
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do...
If all three of those remaining games are against top 10 opponents, we could jump them...
that would be 4 top 10 wins
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I'm mainly focusing on the computers here...
Sep 30, 2013, 10:55 AM
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The computers don't know "4 top 10 teams". Human polls take into account things like that, but in the computers, the PAC-12's depth is going to be a boon for Oregon, IMO.
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Oculus Spirit [81897]
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I don't think your ratings have enough games to make the
Sep 30, 2013, 10:50 AM
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comparisons yet, same with computers. I'll believe your ratings a bit more in 2 more weeks.
Just looking at the two schedules between Oregon & Clemson and Clemson's looks significantly more difficult.
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Their remaining opponents are a combined 21-5.***
Sep 30, 2013, 10:52 AM
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Oculus Spirit [81897]
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Ours are 21-12, where 4 of the losses are from Citadel,
Sep 30, 2013, 10:56 AM
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and 3 of the other ones are to top 10 opponents.
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All-In [26968]
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I have Clemson's remaining opponents at 14-8
Sep 30, 2013, 10:57 AM
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Mine are FBS results only.
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Orange Blooded [2928]
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Re: No way. Oregon is higher in human polls, and will have
Sep 30, 2013, 10:58 AM
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I think it would be closer than you think. (According to current rankings)
Oregon would have wins over #15 Wash, #12 UCLA, #5 Stanford, and the Championship over #12 UCLA, or #22 ASU.
Clemson would have wins over #5 UGA, #8 FSU, #25 MD, and #13 SC, as well as probably over #14 Miami
5 UGA = 5 Stanford
8 FSU > 12 UCLA
13 SC < 12 UCLA (fairly equal)
14 Miami > 15 Wash (fairly equal)
25 MD
Human polls are a toss up but 2 wins over "The Great" (sarcasm) SEC is solid, and it's just a popularity contest at that point.
BCS will like our ranked wins just as well or better so that would be a really interesting scenario.
Obviously all speculation at this point, but we'd have pretty similar resumes
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Why are you only counting 4 games for each team?
Sep 30, 2013, 10:59 AM
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Each team would play 13 games. That's the point I'm getting at. Oregon's games 5 through 13 will be a lot better than Clemson's.
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I see what you are saying, and I agree....
Sep 30, 2013, 11:01 AM
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it just depends on how the conferences shake out. The best thing for Clemson is for the ACC to finish strong outside of everyone losing to CU.
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Yep...and still some Clemson fans say
Sep 30, 2013, 11:03 AM
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"to heck with the ACC!" If Clemson finished undefeated and #3, you're gonna wish the ACC had won more games.
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Not a chance. Oregon has all the hype and absolutely
Sep 30, 2013, 2:33 PM
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destroys teams. Undefeated Oregon is a lock for the national championship.
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I agree... but I still contend, at the end of the day....
Sep 30, 2013, 10:43 AM
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a one loss UGA has an advantage over an undefeated OSU, and maybe OU... but only UGA.
They would have not loss since week one, and would have beaten SCU, LSU, and SEC West champion.
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When the BCS is gone, I'll miss the traditional "The BCS is
Sep 30, 2013, 10:44 AM
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a mess" posts every September.
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Oculus Spirit [81897]
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And it usually always straightened out at the end, haha***
Sep 30, 2013, 10:51 AM
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Its always a mess this time of year. Way to early yet to
Sep 30, 2013, 10:44 AM
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even worry about it. Lots of games to be played.
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Re: BCS could be a mess in this final year.... no one is talking***
Sep 30, 2013, 10:56 AM
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Oregon and Bama aint getting beat
Sep 30, 2013, 11:03 AM
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I don't see anyone on those schedules that will do it. Uga will not beat Bama...they don't have the D to do it this year. Stanford will get killed by Oregon. The good part is the sec isn't gonna win the nc this year. Bad part is we could be on the outside looking in even if undefeated. The bcs sux.
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I think LSU beats Bama this year
Sep 30, 2013, 11:06 AM
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Stanford vs. Oregon will be interesting...
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All-TigerNet [13038]
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Stanford was supposed to get killed by Oregon last year
Sep 30, 2013, 11:11 AM
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and then they completely dominated the LoS, flattened the Oregon offense, and won on the road in Eugene. They get Oregon at home this year, why don't they have a shot?
Also, Bama is offensively challenged and has had trouble running the ball at times this year (VT and Colorado St), so teams like LSU and UGA definitely have a shot at beating them.
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The same things are said nearly every season. Most
Sep 30, 2013, 11:09 AM
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of these teams will lose somewhere along the line. There's probably a better chance of having zero undefeated major conference teams than 4.
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I agree with that***
Sep 30, 2013, 11:09 AM
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We are only four games into the season. We have some
Sep 30, 2013, 1:25 PM
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pretty hard games and some trap games coming up. NCST. was a good win in my opinion, their first conference game at home and everyone wants to win the first so they are not looking up to the top. BC, FSU, Maryland, USC, GT and ACCCG are all going to the tuff!!! Let's run the table and let the marbles fall where they lie.
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not so fast my friend
Sep 30, 2013, 1:50 PM
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Lets hope that Stanford drops Oregon. And it would be nice if Oregon St. makes a game of it; hopefully they've got a shot atleast. And I'm assuming Arizona St will play tough in the P12CG.
As for Oklahoma, well OkSt can normally put up points, just as Baylor can. Chuck Reedy has them looking sharp..........wink
Ohio St...meh. Hope they trip up somewhere. We'll fill in the blank with Northwestern. Can't say that with a straight face so lets try Fishigan or B10CG.
"Hope" is the key word. Before I forget, go UK.
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It always looks that way in Sep, straightens itself out latr***
Sep 30, 2013, 2:11 PM
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