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Re: Bad apples, doing bad things.
Apr 18, 2022, 11:05 PM
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He was convicted?
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Re: Bad apples, doing bad things.
Apr 18, 2022, 11:05 PM
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Wow. Melissa Segura really went out of her way to write an entire article based on assumed truths and presumed guilt. Perhaps she should try a novel next.
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This is going to be a living thread, and it's going to
Apr 18, 2022, 11:25 PM
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trigger so many bootflakes.
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Re: This is going to be a living thread, and it's going to
Apr 19, 2022, 12:03 AM
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It's all good, man. Hispanic Lives Matter has already bailed most of them out and is covering their legal defense.
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Re: Bad apples, doing bad things: (?) Racist article(?)
Apr 19, 2022, 4:00 PM
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This can't be true.
A non-white cop in a city run forever by Democrats (and hush ... Rahm Emmanuel [mayor from 2011 to 2019] was a Clinton acolyte and Lori Lightfoot [current mayor] is Black) ignoring all of these things?
And the Chicago political hierarchy not helping out the victimized minorities ... despite decades of fatuous promises from the Democrat political machine that they were 'looking out' for the minorities and protecting them from "the man"?
Sorry, this article is too racist to believe. BuzzFeed or any of its articles should be censored by Google, Explorer, FakeBook, etc.
HOWEVER, if the article is true, and the Democrat establishment in Chicago had effectively condoned this type of police behavior for DECADES, then officer Guevara, Richard Daley, Rahm Emmanuel, and Lori Lightfoot should all go to Leavenworth.
(Yes, Leavenworth is a 'males only' prison, but Mayor Lightfoot is too ugly to be a woman so put her in Leavenworth with the others.)
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a five year old article?***
Apr 19, 2022, 5:30 PM
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Re: San Francisco police officers arrested, charged with destroying evidence during investigation
Apr 20, 2022, 7:41 AM
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Hmmm ... yet another prominent American city with leftist politicians running city hall for decades, and another city in which control of the police isn't happening, and innocent citizens (including the under-served citizens who always vote Democrat) end up getting abused.
Chicago / San Francisco = Democrats / Democrats. Is a pattern starting to emerge here?
Nah ... MSNBC and CNN, with their dozens of viewers, say 'nothing to see here' and 'Orange Man bad.'
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You're not wrong there.
Apr 20, 2022, 8:20 AM
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Institutional corruption in police departments seems to be highest in big cities that have historically be run by Democrats. Chicago. LA. New York. New York is especially interesting. One of the biggest knocks against de Blasio (and there were many) was that he was petrified of crossing the NYPD in any meaningful way. Then New Yorkers up and elected an actual cop as the next mayor, who, shockingly, is very protective of his police.
One thing is for sure. Democrats want to lead on justice reform, but they're no better than the GOP when it comes to action rather than words.
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It's no mystery, the party of lie-cheat-and-steal
Apr 24, 2022, 12:10 PM
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does anything it wants regardless of the legality of it. This culture of corruption seeps into all areas like a disease.
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Re: San Francisco police officers arrested, charged with destroying evidence during investigation
Apr 20, 2022, 9:08 AM
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Remind me again which major city isn't controlled by Democrats?
Urban areas are as bright blue as rural areas are bright red. So would it be fair to say "all rural areas are filled with meth tweakers" because some counties in West Virginia and Arkansas are?
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Not to speak for Danny, but my interpretation of this is
Apr 20, 2022, 10:14 AM
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that Democrats are, and have been, well positioned to enact major policing reforms yet continue to tolerate police departments rife with corruption. Even as something as basic as banning no-knock warrants is a hill too big to climb for Dem mayors and city councils.
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Re: San Francisco police officers arrested, charged with destroying evidence during investigation
Apr 20, 2022, 7:54 PM
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Although a pivot from the original topic, no argument (OK, not much of one) that rural areas are plagued with meth abuse.
The rural area authorities 'defend' themselves by appearing to be clueless about what to do about the meth problem. But I suspect that those authorities aren't so much as clueless as the are both indifferent and lazy. It must be better politically to 'look' clueless than to be exposed as uncaring and lazy.
Sometimes in the suburbs you can find reasonable local government. Sometimes in the second-tier cities decent government happens. I think the key is that where a frequent 'changing of the (political) guard' takes place, the corruption that would otherwise become entrenched in the departments doesn't have time to become entrenched.
Need to go ... got more McNuggets to cook.
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Re: “How do you call the cops on the cops?”
Apr 20, 2022, 8:28 PM
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This is a fine (and disturbing) article.
Serious question (I don't know and am too lazy to look it up ... hoping that you know): Is Ft.Lauderdale run by Repubs or Dems? I figure that is Dems (to my recollection Broward County is the heart of Democrat support in the Miami greater metropolitan area).
Here's my 'revelation' ... if Democrats run Ft.L (since Broward County is well remembered as a historical Democrat stronghold in the greater Miami metro area), then your article suggests that:
(1) Democrats are every bit as lazy as Repub municipal leaders (i.e., unaware of the problem and too lazy to look &/or too disinterested to care).
(2) Democrat leaders in Ft.L. are both vigorous (good) and corrupt (bad). Too many 'can't investigate cops for a, b, c, d, e, etc. etc. bad behaviors' lack-of-laws.
Laziness & disinterest -or- corrupt ... what do you think is more likely?
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I don't know about the county gov, but
Apr 20, 2022, 10:01 PM
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Broward County's Sheriff office is one of the largest LE forces in the county and was until recently run by a sheriff who was openly hostile to the idea of a well armed citizenry, as well as took no responsibility for the department's role in the Parkland shooting.
Again, I don't know if this guy was a liberal, or just standard top cop Statist, but that's the dynamic of the office.
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Re: I don't know about the county gov, but
Apr 21, 2022, 12:18 AM
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Does the rest of Broward County Gov't privately like what their police dept. is doing, or are they scared of their own police dept.?
Both seem plausible.
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I doubt the Coward of Broward went over too well.
Apr 21, 2022, 8:42 AM
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But the problem with liberal police departments in conservative environments is Thin Blue Liners are reluctant to say police have a problem, and the problems persist.
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Re: Bad apples, doing bad things.
Apr 21, 2022, 9:10 AM
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If you ignore the hundreds and/or thousands of instances of documented video evidence of cops abusing their power...completely disregard your own bad experiences with them...and throw away the evidence of friends and family members who have had issues with their government overreach...and squint real hard when you observe the bootlicking and people falling over them for "keeping them safe" despite the fact that you can count on one hand the number of people you know that a cop has actually ever helped, you'll come to the conclusion that it's an honorable profession filled with only those who want to protect and serve!
It's just a few bad apples, obviously. If the entire plumbing profession was filled with accounts (first-hand) of the plumber walking into your house and ######## on your floor and it was a common occurrence and you had the gall to say "hey, that's a little weird man", YOU would be the one with the problem for pointing that out. It's YOUR FAULT for standing in the plumber's way when he walks through your front door or not letting him bang your wife.
No problem here, move along. If you don't lick the cop's balls when he asks you to, you deserve to go to jail, have your life ruined and/or die. It's that simple.
Nothings says "I love small government" like giving taxpayer funded mercenaries who barely graduated high school the leeway to do pretty much whatever they want without any checks on their behavior. Cops could (and have) murder toddlers and Yorkies and there'd still be people defending them.
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Re: Bad apples, doing bad things.
Apr 21, 2022, 10:03 AM
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Whew ... it's good to know that the problem is entirely due to rogue cops. That makes the problem much easier to fix:
Solution: Defund all police departments.
I had been misguided into believing that ineffective laws (with regard to setting meaningful standards for police behavior) as a consequence of having lazy and/or corrupt politicians, might have played a role. Also, that half-hearted investigations of those police who broke the few meaningful laws on the books might have had something to do with it.
Thanks for correcting me.
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Absurd responses like this...
Apr 24, 2022, 12:33 PM
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Is why no honest discussion can be had about the problem in police forces. Your faction devolves into either hyperbole or hostility.
The blind support for law enforcement has helped get us here. The bad apples believe they can get away with what they do because they have too much blind public backing.
And if you support our citizens' rights to bear arms to protect themselves from all threats, including the government, like I do, but you also throw unrelenting support to all things blue, you really aren't thinking it through.
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Re: Absurd responses like this...
May 21, 2022, 2:04 PM
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Why were you being purposely stupid? You're not dumb. Maybe sarcasm escapes you.
But to fail to recognize the role of local government in the practices of police departments is simply willful blindness.
Without a drip of sarcastic parody, you write as if all things blue are all things bad.
What on earth had happened to you to get to this state of categorical paranoia about the police?
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Re: Bad apples, doing bad things.
May 21, 2022, 2:09 PM
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It is a good thing when authorities catch and prosecute criminals, regardless of the nature of the criminal's employment.
Every time that a bad cop gets caught for doing bad things, this reinforces in other cops the potential consequences to them if they themselves also commit crimes.
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Re: Bad apples, doing bad things.
May 21, 2022, 2:10 PM
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Aaaannnd another:
It is a good thing when authorities catch and prosecute criminals, regardless of the nature of the criminal's employment.
Every time that a bad cop gets caught for doing bad things, this reinforces in other cops the potential consequences to them if they themselves also commit crimes.
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Re: Bad apples, doing bad things.
May 2, 2022, 9:42 AM
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Man runs parody account making fun of cops. Cops arrest man. Court says man can't sue cause QI; First Amendment "not clearly established" in case of parody account.
5-0 is wrong. QI is wrong. First Amendment is right.
https://twitter.com/pjaicomo/status/1520083026839052298
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Re: Bad apples, doing bad things.
May 21, 2022, 2:16 PM
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It's a bit hard to read the info posted in the Tweet; too much of it is cut off and there is surely a lot of context which can't be read.
From the summaries of the Tweeters (if accurate), then this is awful abuse of a person who isn't doing anything illegal ... he was just having some fun on social media.
Again, if the summaries of the case properly reflect the facts of the case, then this is an example of a crooked judge applying his wishes (instead of the law).
The cops are bad, but the local judicial system's corruption amplifies the horror in this situation.
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Re: Former Brookside police chief Mike Jones arrested for
May 21, 2022, 2:22 PM
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And another ...
This is a great story. Bad cops (and bad ex-cop) gets caught; the system is working in this case.
Of course you are not suggesting this, but others may reach the wrong conclusion:
None of these stories provide the justification to "defund the police." Anyone making that argument really needs to get a real-life-experiences education.
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Re: On tonight's theme of being upset about miscreants fighting
May 21, 2022, 2:28 PM
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Body cam requirements for police officers, and the typical practice of calling additional officers to the scene of an 'accident' or 'crime' provided the proof of the police officer's violence and of the coverup collusion from other officers.
Every one of the colluding police officers should be fired; the one who did the violence should be convicted and then imprisoned on a manslaughter charge.
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Re: Bad apples, doing bad things.
May 6, 2022, 2:21 PM
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They did not bury the lede:
By the time Detroit police officer Rochelle Mayberry was arrested for ditching a $530 restaurant bill on Mother’s Day 2019, she’d set off numerous alarms inside the department.
Her 15 misconduct incidents in less than three years on the force were triple that of the average Detroit officer. Among other things, investigators found she’d kicked and shoved a homeless man who posed no threat, “placed her hands in a choking position around the neck” of a handcuffed woman, and threatened a man in a wheelchair, annoyed he needed help.
https://deadlinedetroit.com/articles/30418/deeply_broken_how_detroit_lets_bad_cops_off_the_hook
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Re: Bad apples, doing bad things.
May 6, 2022, 4:05 PM
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What should be done about all this? Are there any useful reforms that came out of the G Floyd incident?
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Yes and no.
May 6, 2022, 5:23 PM
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The George Floyd protests/riots were like one step forward, and two steps backwards for meaningful police reform. Some small (but meaningful) changes did occur in some localities as a result, such as bans on no-knock warrants (a huge win where it happened), and some use of force guideline changes. Additionally, the attention and pressure it put (in some cases, legally) for fellow officers to intervene, was a positive improvement. Also, I do think prosecutors are more likely now to pursue charges against police brutality and corruption than before. All of these are good things.
BUT...and this is a major but...
The chaos, destruction, and overall "defund the police" absurdity made any attempts at broader reform, which would require bipartisan support, infinitely more difficult if not impossible now. Before the George Floyd protests, there was significant and growing support on the right for justice reform -- a great example being the First Step Act that Trump got passed, which was a limited but truly historic bill that Obama didn't even get done with Dem control in Congress. Now, Republicans (understandably) won't touch police reform with a 10ft. poll because of fear of being seen as sympathetic to Defund the Police. It is something of a miracle that the EQUAL Act, which fixes the disparity in sentencing between crack and powdered cocaine, got enough support to be filibuster proof in the Senate. That may very well be one of the last bipartisan reforms at the national level we see in a while, all thanks to the extremists on the Left who killed the momentum.
That's what has been going on. Here's what is still left to do.
Ending QI. Qualified immunity is completely a creation of the courts which shields any public official (but most often police) from civil lawsuits for violating the civil liberties of citizens. This wouldn't be a bad thing if it was extremely limited, such as an affirmative defense, but it is so broad and undefined, and the courts lean on it so often, actually getting a civil trial against a cop for extremely egregious behavior is its own mountain to climb. I posted a few days ago about QI being used to block a civil suit against cops who arrested a guy for a parody account, citing that First Amendment protections for parody was not "established law" for these cops. And this is pretty benign compared to other examples that involve severe property and bodily harm occur. The other aspect is if QI is reformed or struck down, ensuring the burden of these suits are carried in a way by police departments that serve as a deterrent for departments tolerating illegal conduct from officers, as opposed to it coming out of taxpayer coffers with absolutely no impact on problem departments.
More accountability. It is my opinion (though I don't have concrete data to back this up) that in many cases of police abuse, there are plenty of warning signs from the offending officer that they were heading for a tipping point (like the article posted here). But the culture within police departments is to protect even the worst cops, rather than hold them accountable. I think this is changing somewhat, now that cops have seen that bad cops get good cops hurt or killed. Nevertheless, this culture has to change and internal policing of bad cops is probably one of the best ways to start curtailing police abuse. Related to this, Brady Lists should become are more utilized to ensure prosecutors stop using corrupt cops on the stand. I am also a strong advocate of enhanced legal penalties for public officials, not just cops, who intentionally act to deprive citizens of their constitutional liberties. I think this would be a deterrent to some degree.
Mental health services for cops. This is not something I have seen talked about much, but I think it's more important than de-escalation training, which can be something of a joke. People are fools if they don't think the nature of the job can turn a good cop into an abusive nihilist, and the lack of focus on the mental health of cops is a big gap.
Overcriminalization. This is my #1 issue, and my litmus test for whether someone is a true justice reform advocate, or a performative hack. Any time a police officer has an encounter with a citizen, the risk for abuse/injury (to both parties) increases exponentially, so we must reduce the reasons for those encounters by stopping the urge to criminalize everything we see as a social problem. And here, Democrats carry the most to blame. COVID was a great example of this. Democrats pushed hard to criminalize not wearing a mask. Guess who took the brunt of this? Low income and minority groups who were least likely to have the means to fight the charges. That shouldn't have been a shock, yet this repeats itself over and over again. Eric Garner didn't die just because an a$$hole NYPD cop put him in an illegal chokehold. He died because NY liberals made it a crime worthy of police intervention to sell loose cigarettes.
This is a deeply complex and multi-faceted issue and I am just scratching the surface here, but these are the more obvious areas, and what I would consider to be relatively low-hanging fruit for meaningful change.
EDIT: Body cameras! Very positive to see them used more, but I think there should be stricter compliance requirements. But body cameras also are a very important tool for protecting cops too. Citizen recordings of police encounters have been useful for holding cops accountable for abuse, but often times they only show a part of the story. Having full documentation from the perspective of the office is very important in protecting police who were acting rationally and competently from being victims of a partial narrative and runaway public backlash.
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Re: Yes and no.
May 11, 2022, 12:28 AM
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Hey hey Jimmy, I agree with all that you wrote.
The policing system is in need of reform and has been for years. It’s just now getting filmed, and challenged in court rooms like never before. It’s not about dem cities or pub cities. Politicians of all stripes have condoned or turned a blind eye to corruption in police depts
The most important (to me) of the listed reforms is QI
As of now, in most cases, if a cop does something wrong …. An internal investigation (usually find no wrongdoing) but perhaps it’s a day or 2 of desk duty, paid leave, or nothing at all. I think police should be held accountable for their actions. In some cases even if the plaintiff wins/settles, the police dept admits no wrongdoing and has non disclosure written in contracts. Meanwhile that cop is off to trample the next persons rights WITH 0 CONSEQUENCES. CO trashed qualified immunity and more States will hopefully follow.
The Brady list is important too. Cops should not be able to bounce around after being fired from department to neighboring dept. Misconduct should be noted accurately and dealt with, it swept under the rug.
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Re: Bad apples, doing bad things.
May 21, 2022, 2:31 PM
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Another example of terrible local government allowing / enabling a police department to become a criminal organization in and of itself.
Why don't the citizens of Detroit vote in different politicians? They have the power to do so if they'll get off their backsides and research the candidates.
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Re: HBCU women's lax team gets pulled over in BFE, Georgia
May 11, 2022, 12:50 AM
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Haha a colleague at work was watching this video as I was leaving.
This is a Lear case of police over reach, violating these people’s 4th amendment.
For y’all that don’t know:
When pulled over for traffic violation. Unless there is probable cause, there has to be a warrant or your consent to search the vehicle and/or personal belongings. Or if something was in plain view (booze, drugs, guns).
The Fourth Amendment
The right of the people to be secure in their persons , houses , papers , and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
In the full video the head cop did what many cops do to defend their illegal actions. He talks about all the kids, people, drugs and other things they find by searching peoples vehicles “this is what we do”. They actually try to trick you into thinking their right and if you ain’t got nothing to hide you’ll be fine and off with your day.
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But but but
May 11, 2022, 8:01 AM
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People on this board tell me that if I'm doing nothing wrong, I herp derp don't have anything to worry about!
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Constitutional rights are only for criminals.
May 11, 2022, 9:36 AM
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BACK THE BLUE.
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Re: Shocking follow-up.
May 12, 2022, 3:28 PM
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I saw the sheriff’s presser and not only was it full of misleading info (yeah shocking). That sheriff should NEVER EVER do a presser again….. maybe after about 1000 hrs of public speaking classes. That was embarrassing
Now for some facts about the laws quoted by to head poe poe.
(O.C.G.A.40-6-52)
A "truck" is defined as any vehicle equipped
with more than six wheels except buses and
motorcoaches.
The sign clearly said “trucks” and the ginger deputy agreed then went on to say it meant other stuff too. Which is BS
Let’s just cut through the BS and lies. Let’s talk about what really happened here. I know it, everybody knows it.
Those cops have been either directed or on their own decided to stop large vehicles (maybe all vehicles) and search them on this stretch of highway..”, esp if out of state plates. They misuse any law even close if it fits or not. If it wasn’t this it would be a wide turn, touching a line, failure to signal, driving to fast or to slow, tints to dark. Point is they are gonna search these vehicles by hook or by crook. The dog may or may not have indicated. If he did then we all should question the accuracy of using these dogs. I am certain that no matter what the dog did they were intent on searching and they made it happen, with imagined laws
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Re: Shocking follow-up.
May 12, 2022, 4:02 PM
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Re: Shocking follow-up.
May 12, 2022, 4:10 PM
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Look who it is my old pal T3
You are correct, this stop should have never been done. And you’re correct some of these unlawful lead to arrest and other things, however those arrest date usually thrown out as fruit of the poison tree (unlawful). I can’t understand why so many still back the blue on those incidents when they admit it happens
So I’ll as you as a person that seems to back the blue, and also admitted wrongdoing by the Poe Poe… what should happen here to the officers and anyone directing and condoning these stops?
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Re: Shocking follow-up.
May 12, 2022, 4:22 PM
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Re: Shocking follow-up.
May 12, 2022, 4:39 PM
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You really don’t know of or heard of cases thrown out due to unlawful copping? Really? I’m gonna let you do your own research coz there is PLENTY
What you fail to understand is this is the broken system at work right in front of your face. These cops have. Even doing this likely directed by higher ups. The Sherriff comes out and lies in a presser to make it ok. You really think the sherif doesn’t know what I know about this law? If not perhaps he would google it. If no one put the footage over the web it would be swept under the rug like all the others.
These officers are just blunt instruments in the system that allows them to break the law in the name of the law
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Re: Shocking follow-up.
May 12, 2022, 4:56 PM
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Re: Shocking follow-up.
May 20, 2022, 5:47 PM
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Much of that is fair.
There should be (and looks like there will be) an investigation into this and all/any other questionable practices are going on this dept.
What they should be looking for is and not limited to:
On who's orders are these stops being made? I am aware that sometimes officers act on their own, however the Sheriff is ultimately responsible for his deputies actions. If they acted independently, then I think a suspension and retraining on traffic laws in their area would be sufficient. That is dependent on how many cases pop up in the investigation of course. The Deputy did state they sopped another vehicle(s) recently...was that another bus? We should find out
I have some issues with the Sheriff. He lied in his presser, stating no personal items were searched, and they stopped the vehicle with the law stated. This leads me to believe 1 of 3 possible scenarios with the Sheriff.
1. He does not know the laws he is charged to enforce, and is misleading on what exactly happened
2. He copsplained what happened, thinking nobody would look it up. "By the book, nothing to see here, move along"
3. He never did any investigation, as he said he did. He never saw the video footage, he went on the officers words (verbally and/or report). If the report or officers said they never searched property, that would also be reason for dismissal
Any those 3 would be good reason to remove the Sheriff, or him to decide to spend more time with his family
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Re: Shocking follow-up.
May 20, 2022, 6:35 PM
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As for lawsuits. They should absolutely sue, but not for the reasons you listed, but for violations of the their 4th amendment, and freedom of movement
People should sue the city and these cops individually until the nonsense stops
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After posting I realized I may have misunderstood why you meant. If you mean things found with the plain view doctrine? I have no problem with the plain view doc. I was referring to cases due to illegal searches
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Re: Shocking follow-up.
May 12, 2022, 4:58 PM
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Ahem, someone say lax story?
May 12, 2022, 10:07 PM
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Saw this the other day. What I don’t quite get is how it’s profiling that they were pulled over. Plain white charter bus with tinted windows. It could have been any group of any demographic on that bus. There’s no way they knew it was a black lacrosse team.
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Yeah, I'm sure no one ever traffics any drugs outta florida
May 13, 2022, 10:28 AM
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on that stretch of i-95 so they have no reason to be suspicious
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Re: HBCU women's lax team gets pulled over in BFE, Georgia
May 21, 2022, 2:45 PM
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This sucks, but reflects the challenges (and failures) of trying to stop the interstate movement of really bad drugs (i.e., fentanyl).
Interesting how the social outrage of this incident gets so much more attention than the scads of blacks who get murdered ... with most of the murders being committed by other blacks.
Drug runners know how to use other substances (coffee grounds, etc.) to confuse K-9 sniffing dogs.
The technology of law enforcement is not adequate to counter the tactics of drug running criminals.
Again, this example sucks. But the attention that it got because white cops had stopped a bus of black kids was all out of proportion to the 'bad apple cops doing bad things' circumstance.
BTW, black people hate being pulled over by black cops; white people hate being pulled over by white cops.
(?) Does anyone have a suggestion about how to better manage (reduce) the interstate smuggling of drugs? Or is it just enough to say that all proactive police tactics for drug enforcement need to be illegal, and that the soaring epidemic of fentanyl deaths are just part of what we have to deal with?
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Re: Bad apples, doing bad things.
May 21, 2022, 3:01 PM
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This one is (duhh!) clearly grotesque criminal behavior by the Louisiana police.
The prosecution (either crooked or intimidated by the police) needs to be investigated also.
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Defund The Police!!!
May 12, 2022, 4:05 PM
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I agree both of those are bad/ill-conceived ideas***
May 12, 2022, 5:00 PM
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Re: Bad apples, doing bad things.
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Long arm of the law, amirite?***
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Re: Long arm of the law, amirite?***
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Re: Bad apples, doing bad things.
May 18, 2022, 12:51 PM
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In August, Clark was confronted late at night by Knoxville police officer Joseph Roberts. Clark was tackled, her top torn from her, kneeled on and handcuffed. She was exposed topless and terrifed in a front yard on Linden Avenue.
She told Knox News she thought she might die.
Police and prosecutors saddled her with six criminal charges, including a felony charge of evading arrest.
But the truth was on Clark's side. Roberts lied repeatedly, to other cops and in written reports, about his pursuit and arrest of Clark. In December, Judge Tony Stansberry dismissed every single charge, calling the whole encounter "disturbing."
https://www.knoxnews.com/story/news/local/2022/05/17/knoxville-police-officers-joseph-roberts-lies-review-use-force/7393688001/
SPOILER ALERT: THIS WAS NOT HIS FIRST TIME.
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May 18, 2022, 12:53 PM
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You may have missed the other thread, but I said I was going
May 18, 2022, 12:56 PM
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to keep a living one with fun news stories from cops being criminals.
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So you have the thread with cops being criminals
May 18, 2022, 1:02 PM
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Can you do one about all the sinners being saints?
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Sounds like an Obed thread to me.
May 18, 2022, 1:06 PM
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I'm doing my own thing here.
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HA HA JIMMY DON'T KNOW ROLLING STONES LYRICS
May 18, 2022, 1:39 PM
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HEY ERRYBODY COME LAUGH AT JIMMY.
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Look I like Roger Daltrey as much as the next guy but
May 18, 2022, 1:50 PM
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I wouldn't recognize him in a bar if I was standing right next to him.
So fine, laugh at stupid old don't no nothing Jimmy.
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Re: Bad apples, doing bad things.
May 21, 2022, 3:09 PM
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It's such a shame that it took so long for this case to make it to court.
One wonders how much the court time is taken up with BS cases, when real cases such as Trinity Clark was abused by authorities.
(?) How can the courts 'prioritize' those cases which look really serious, and 'slow walk' the cases which look like BS?
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Re: Bad apples, doing bad things.
May 21, 2022, 1:31 PM
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Thought I'd add to the pile. This one is crazy!
So far there is no witnesses that can point to this guy pointing a gun at anyone or being with a group that did. He was at the motorcycle rally were someone had (allegedly) pointed a gun at someone. BUT lets say he was or had...wouldn't it be nice to have officers approach him in a "normal" traffic stop or even a felony stop where they have him get off the bike... cuff/search him, vs tackling him off his bike, and tasing (YES TASING at a gas pump and turned over bike) What can go wrong???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mAkejvQC3o
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Re: Bad apples, doing bad things.
Sep 14, 2022, 3:15 PM
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how many times you gonna post this?
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I've only posted it once.
Sep 14, 2022, 3:25 PM
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I'll keep updating it so long as there are new stories about cops doing evil things to citizens.
Sort of like how you love posting news stories about black criminals.
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Re: It couldn't happen to you, right?
Oct 6, 2022, 8:29 PM
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Holy Crap! I had not seen that before
I hope that cop is up on charges very soon. Its good to know this maniac is off the streets in the meantime
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Re: Bad apples, doing bad things.
Oct 6, 2022, 8:22 PM
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I should really start a new thread for this post and those like it. I should call it "when the LEO chickens come home to roost"
The slow court system that we have takes around 2 yrs (or more) to get to charging cops for anything if that all. In this case the 19+ coppers are facing possible charges for actions during the protests of "20. Lots more coming like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXYRrbIcFY0&t=93s
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Re: Bad apples, doing bad things.
Oct 7, 2022, 2:07 AM
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This is a good one! Several cops are getting upgraded felony charges including (Sgts).
ALL of the ones that stood by and watched should also get fired, charged and sued as well.
No qualified immunity for any of them
https://youtu.be/abYV-6WWA88
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Let's hit the highlights from this:
Dec 13, 2022, 9:06 AM
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"In January 2019, Adrian Burrell, a documentary filmmaker and former Marine, saw the police stopping his cousin. Burrell used his cell phone to record the traffic stop from his porch. When Vallejo police officer David McLaughlin saw Burrell filming him, he ordered him to get back, although Burrell was standing about 20 to 30 feet. Burrell refused...Burrell's cell phone did not capture what happened next, but his lawsuit claims that McLaughlin swung him to the ground and knocked his head against a wooden pillar on Burrell's porch."
"Last year, Vallejo paid $270,698 to Santiago Hutchins to settle another excessive force lawsuit filed against McLaughlin. Hutchins and McLaughlin, who was off-duty and out of uniform at the time, got into an argument in a parking lot outside of a pizzeria. McLaughlin pulled a gun and held Hutchins at gunpoint until several other officers arrived and took Hutchins to the ground. A cellphone video taken by a bystander showed McLaughlin then savagely punching and elbowing Hutchins as he was being held down. According to his lawsuit, Hutchins suffered "a concussion, right eye hematoma, facial pain, headache, swelling in the head, face contusions, face lacerations, muscle strains, and rib contusions" as a result of the beating."
"McLaughlin is also one of several Vallejo police officers alleged to be part of a group of Vallejo officers who bent the tips of their star-shaped badges to mark fatal shootings."
"McLaughlin is still a Vallejo police officer."
https://reason.com/2022/12/12/california-city-pays-300000-to-marine-veteran-tackled-for-filming-a-cop-from-his-porch/?utm_medium=email
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