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Any discussion on gun control will always invariably also
May 26, 2022, 5:48 PM
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turn into a discussion about the Death Penalty as a deterrent to crimes. To me, that is not even a discussion. My dad had the best quote about it that I ever heard, which makes perfect, logical sense.
"Execution will deter the H.ELL out of the person you execute!"
I have never seen, or heard of, a single person who was properly executed that ever committed another crime. Ever.
So, that is a totally different discussion from gun control. Gun control won't stop gun crimes. If a criminal wants to shoot up somewhere, they can acquire a gun without ever setting foot in a store. But, back to the Death Penalty discussion.
To me, the only problem with the Death Penalty is we do not follow through on it for decades, even after someone has been convicted under "special circumstances", and given the Death Penalty. Instead, in most cases, the State involved winds up supporting them for literally a lifetime, while appeal after appeal drags on, or some liberal governor grants a Stay, ad nauseum, defeating the court system.
Three years. The court system should be set up so that all Death Penalty appeals have made it through, and been exhausted in three years or less. Then, that legal obtained verdict should be carried out.
THEN, the Death Penalty will have true teeth as a deterrent. As long as it is just a Get into Jail Free for Life card, it can't BE much of a deterrent. In actuality, it just becomes Life without Parole.
And to those whose argument is that the Death Penalty is just "legalized murder", you are right. It IS LEGALIZED murder. So is every justified shooting in the world. WAR is just legalized murder, for the winners. It's prison or worse for some of the losers.
And, yes, before someone even needs to reply, my answer is a resounding YES. That is, if the question was, would I push the button for an execution. If someone has been convicted of a heinous enough crime that they got the Death Penalty, I would push the button and sleep like a baby that night. And every night thereafter.
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Re: Any discussion on gun control will always invariably also
May 26, 2022, 5:58 PM
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Put a mother and father back in the home and this crap will reduce greatly, not totally go away, but will definitely not happen as much.
The young man in Texas was being raised by a grandmother, the kid down in Florida was being raised by either his brother or another relative, cannot remember. It’s astounding how few kids are raised by 2 parents nowadays and I think the percentages are even worse among minorities
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It may sound like preaching moraility, and I guess it is.
May 26, 2022, 6:08 PM
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But, to carry your point on even further, there is an ever increasing percentage of kids whose parents have never BEEN married, and have no intentions of ever BEING married to each other. In a lot of those cases, the child will be considered lucky if they have ANY sort of stable male "father figure" in their life, via a grandfather, uncle, etc.
Dabo said himself, in an interview awhile back, if he were born today, he would be classified as "At Risk". Product of a broken home, battered mother eventually divorced an alcoholic abusive father, moved half a dozen times while he was growing up.
I said before, I don't believe these monsters are born, they are created. That does not alter the fact that they need to be permanently removed from society, and from life, if the courts say so.
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Re: It may sound like preaching moraility, and I guess it is.
May 26, 2022, 6:29 PM
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I agree that kids coming from a two parent home generally have a better chance of turning out well. But we have to stop creating and accepting excuses for bad behavior. Plenty of people survived being raised by a single parent to become great people. Dabo is living proof. Raised by a single parent, got picked on in school, somebody disrespected me, gun laws don’t work, the system failed me, etc, etc. It’s always someone else’s fault. I don’t really even think the death penalty is a deterrent to these people. Most of them either kill themselves or expect to be killed by police. I don’t know how to get there, but we need to have more personal responsibility. I am responsible for everything I do. Not my parents, not my teachers, not the cops, no one but me. People today are provided with too many excuses. The blame for these things falls on the individual. No other way to put it.
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