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OB deal with the ACC isn't anything new... ACC champ has
Jul 5, 2012, 9:26 AM
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been going to OB for years. Not sure how this "saves" the conference. Nothing in that deal gaurantees a spot in the playoff. Seems like same shyatt different wording to me ....
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The deal is all about the $ that gets generated and shared
Jul 5, 2012, 9:28 AM
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with the schools from shopping the game in the market. The ACC controls that. It will make a lot of money, and is a game changer.
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Oculus Spirit [93639]
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We also retain the TV rights when the OB take it's turn...
Jul 5, 2012, 9:30 AM
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hosting a playoff game.
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EXACTLY! The ACC is just the first one to announce this.
Jul 5, 2012, 9:31 AM
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Wait until the B12 and SEC announce the money details of their new bowl game.
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so the ACC is going to play itself in the OB ?? ACC will be
Jul 5, 2012, 9:36 AM
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sharing that with whoever else plays in the game
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But only the ACC will control the broadcast rights, sure the
Jul 5, 2012, 9:41 AM
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other team in the game will get paid for going to the OB, but if you can't see that this will generate more money for the ACC and their teams, then I can't help you.
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110%er [5627]
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Maybe it will ... but if you think ACC will be getting more
Jul 5, 2012, 9:43 AM
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money than SEC / Big12 / B1G / Pac12 , then I can't help you.
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Heisman Winner [105574]
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As a whole, no and I never said that. However, and trust me
Jul 5, 2012, 9:48 AM
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this is tough to admit because I hate the ACC so much, but this was a huge step for the conference. It kept the ACC on par with all other conferences as far as bowl revenue, and it essentially dropped a Big East tie in. I believe it is an incredible savvy deal, which is not something we are used to seeing from the ACC.
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If its played right, the ACC should make more than the other
Jul 5, 2012, 9:51 AM
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mainly because the ACC controls the whole thing. The Rose could make more because of the tradition but they have to split between 2. The "Champions Bowl" that the SEC/Big12 will not make as much since it will likely always be a #2 playing in that game (think Cotton Bowl) and it has to be split as well.
The Sugar and Fiesta got screwed by their conferences. The ACC could step in there if the product is upgraded.
Now we just have to hope that the ACC offices don't screw it up and the ACC teams don't flop.
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That's what I have been trying to say, but it's hard to back
Jul 5, 2012, 10:01 AM
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up when we don't know any numbers for the SEC/B12 game, which will generate huge revenues. But as a whole, with the B1G and SEC networks, the ACC will still be behind. But if the conference can step it up, with Clemson, FSU, VT, Miami, etc contending for national championships, then the ACC television deal can balloon and coupled with the OB deal the conference and schools can make a lot of money.
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Oculus Spirit [93639]
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Just as no one can say we got screwed no one can say...
Jul 5, 2012, 10:09 AM
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we didn't. Until all the other conferences settle their media rights contracts and the projection for the revenues of the playoff system are published this entire conversation is just something to pass DT.
I understand the pessimistic attitudes because of the internet talk of the ACC's poor deal with ESPiN/Raycom. I also understand why some of us look on the bright side of this thinking that if we are stuck in the ACC we should try and take a good attitude about it. That's my attitude at this time.
There are also the group of ACC pumpers, for some unknown reason to me, that enjoy saying I told you so.
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I agree. I'm trying to see the bright side in what the ACC
Jul 5, 2012, 10:19 AM
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is doing even though I really hate being in the conference. I was really hoping Clemson would bolt to the B12, and they still might one day. However, if not I believe this deal was a big step towards the conference competing with the traditional powers.
That being said however, I can't help but think Swoffie will still find a way to screw it up.
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Oculus Spirit [93639]
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ESPiN and CCS both declared more than once...
Jul 5, 2012, 10:30 AM
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Slive got everything he wanted. Anyone who thinks Slive and Swofford wanted the same thing is probably believing WWII ended just as Hitler planned.
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Re: I think the BE has no tie in W/OB. WVU was an @ large team
Jul 5, 2012, 9:58 AM
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nope BE never had a tie in, only a BCS tie in. Orange was just the last to pick and got stuck with the BE team who commenced to whip our ###....
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you are correct. the BE has no tie in W/OB.
Jul 5, 2012, 10:00 AM
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and they never have.
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I read it on the internet it has....***
Jul 5, 2012, 10:00 AM
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looks like I was wrong on the tie-in point
Jul 5, 2012, 10:01 AM
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Another thing to remember
Jul 5, 2012, 9:53 AM
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The OB will pay the ACC and a single team, unlike the other bowls who partnered with two conferences, they have to split money 50/50 because they have two conferences. The OB will have one conference and one team, meaning the non-ACC team would take maybe 10% or less of the money, giving the ACC 90% of what's left.
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And people that cry over everything can't be helped either.
Jul 5, 2012, 10:06 AM
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First every one of you people said, "the ACC would lose it's automatic qualification status". It didn't happen, they got a better deal than any other conference has with their bowl game.
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Who's crying?? Let's just see where this OB deal is when
Jul 5, 2012, 10:15 AM
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all the big bowls and other conferences have made their deals. If ACC comes out smelling like a rose, then kudos to John Swafford ... but his track record on money deals is pathetic. We will see.
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exactly....let's see the ACC has the worst tv deal amongst
Jul 5, 2012, 10:22 AM
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all of the conferences but yet they are going to have the best bowl tv deal.....hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm......that sounds likely.......
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the Gator Bowl was a disaster***
Jul 5, 2012, 10:23 AM
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Re: The other bowls are split 50/50
Jul 5, 2012, 10:39 AM
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do we know that for sure?
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Should be the case
Jul 5, 2012, 11:14 AM
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Bowls before were based on two conferences sending their respective teams, so it split cash. OB non-ACC won't (hopefully) have any conference affiliation, so we deal with an individual school.
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Re: Should be the case
Jul 5, 2012, 11:19 AM
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So usually every year there's at least two at-large teams in BCS bowls....
If the at-large team is in a conference that has revenue sharing, we know their share is split with their conference i.e VT in 2011 Sugar.
So what you're saying is we will get 90% if, and only if, the team we play is either in a conference that doesn't do revenue sharing or a team that is independent?
I can't imagine the OB inviting an At-large from another 5 major conference and they not get equal share of the pie. And I'm assuming, until it's announced other wise, that even if it is an indendent like ND, that they will get half as well...
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It gaurantees a spot for the ACC
Jul 5, 2012, 9:36 AM
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not just the champ but an ACC team will play in the orange bowl every year
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Re: It gaurantees a spot for the ACC
Jul 5, 2012, 9:52 AM
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And when did an ACC team not play in the orange bowl the last ten years? I understand the money thing. But money in college football is going up regardless. The other bowls will probably be an even better deal.
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The OB wouldnt have neccesarily had an ACC team in it with
Jul 5, 2012, 10:01 AM
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the new system. If an ACC team goes to the playoff then the loser of the ACCCG will go to the OB.
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Re: The OB wouldnt have neccesarily had an ACC team in it with
Jul 5, 2012, 10:13 AM
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I understand that. I'm just saying the ACC has always had an OB tie in. This is just keeping status quo in the new system....
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Kinda... status quo was the winner of the ACCCG if they
Jul 5, 2012, 10:15 AM
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did not go to the BCSCG. I do believe that the OB could chose whomever at that point.
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Re: Kinda... status quo was the winner of the ACCCG if they
Jul 5, 2012, 10:17 AM
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It'll be ACC Champ not in the final 4 or ACCCG loser....only way I see ACCCG loser not going is if it is BC or Wake or some other non traveling school and then there would eb a big stink....
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It doesn't...this deal was the only deal the two could make
Jul 5, 2012, 10:10 AM
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they were the two ugly people left in the bar at the end of the night and decided to hook up with each other...
Who else could the OB partner with? MAC? Conf USA? Sun belt? The SEC/Big12 had partnered with each other and the Pac12/Big10 had partnered up. The OB was on the outside looking in.
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I guess I'm wearing beer goggles again.
Jul 5, 2012, 10:13 AM
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That OB bich is lookin pretty good.
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take them off and sober up....
Jul 5, 2012, 10:15 AM
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this is what it actually looks like...
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I think I saw her hanging around 4th battalion back in the
Jul 5, 2012, 10:18 AM
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day ... 
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she was waiting to pick me up***
Jul 5, 2012, 10:19 AM
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Re: take them off and sober up....
Jul 5, 2012, 10:19 AM
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quit posting pics of DSP's wife or he'll get mad.
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I dated her before he married her***
Jul 5, 2012, 10:20 AM
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Re: I dated her before he married her***
Jul 5, 2012, 10:21 AM
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Glad to see you found your way back out.....
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I had to wear one of these to make it back...***
Jul 5, 2012, 10:22 AM
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Re: I had to wear one of these to make it back...***
Jul 5, 2012, 10:26 AM
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kinky
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Its hard to save something that was never in peril
Jul 5, 2012, 10:27 AM
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I'm not sure why so many of you though (and still think) the ACC was in danger of being "left out". Nobody is (or was) going anywhere and the conference is here to stay.
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To add on.
Jul 5, 2012, 10:29 AM
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"Nothing has changed", that has been my point since the beginning. The only thing that has changed in college football for the ACC is that there are now two more spots available to compete for the national championship.
That's it. All of the doomsday scenarios and sensationalism was just bored people taking things too far.
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Yes, some of us on this bored took things too far.
Jul 5, 2012, 10:38 AM
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Glad you cleared that up. Now can you explain how we got two guaranteed playoff seeds?
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Re: Yes, some of us on this bored took things too far.
Jul 5, 2012, 10:44 AM
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Bored People as in people who are bored, not people on this board.
Two more spots available meaning you don't have to be #1 or #2 to have a chance to win a national championship as #3 and #4 now are part of a playoff.
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Re: Yes, some of us on this bored took things too far.
Jul 5, 2012, 10:45 AM
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You misspelled bored.
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There is a BIG difference in money
Jul 5, 2012, 10:39 AM
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The ACC essentially owns the bowl now AND they can now shop the bowl around and sell the coverage to the highest bidder. As far as the teams that play in the bowl, etc. there's not going to be much of a change. BUT the ACC will rake in millions of extra dollars from the deal, and that's a huge difference.
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