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All-In [34108]
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Who called the cops in that knife situation?
Apr 21, 2021, 3:28 PM
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I've heard conflicting stories and I'm too busy to find out the truth. Anyone know?
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Re: Who called the cops in that knife situation?
Apr 21, 2021, 3:36 PM
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Rock Defender [53]
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Re: Who called the cops in that knife situation?
Apr 21, 2021, 3:42 PM
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not manac, but
Apr 21, 2021, 4:51 PM
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I guess If I had to make a suggestion, unloading the entire clip  needs to not be a part of police training. I am not expecting him to shoot the knife out of her hand or anything, but firing multiple rounds into a crowd of people like that could have gone wrong, and her death could have been prevented. I chalk this up to shiddy police training, but not something the officer should be charged over.
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Re: not manac, but
Apr 21, 2021, 4:56 PM
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Shoot until the person stops doing what there are doing.
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Re: not manac, but
Apr 21, 2021, 4:59 PM
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yes, that is what they teach them, and it needs to stop.
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Rock Defender [53]
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I’d say you’re in this group
Apr 21, 2021, 5:07 PM
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Re: not manac, but
Apr 21, 2021, 5:20 PM
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What do you suggest as a better course of action? Shoot until....what?
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One behind the knee would have sufficed and been safer...
Apr 21, 2021, 5:00 PM
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She might have limped the rest of her life, but.....
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shooting at the leg might have hit the knifeless person***
Apr 21, 2021, 5:01 PM
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Re: shooting at the leg might have hit the knifeless person***
Apr 21, 2021, 5:04 PM
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BS... Not only are you shooting downward, from the video I
Apr 21, 2021, 5:21 PM
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saw, there was much more chance of hitting the girl in pink in a VITAL AREA by shooting high.
Of course that's how the police responded at the press conference.
I don't think this is in any way a "bad shoot" but the problem lies in training to "always shoot center mass".
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Re: One behind the knee would have sufficed and been safer...
Apr 21, 2021, 5:14 PM
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It ain't the movies. Hitting somebody in the leg or arm is practically very difficult which is why cops and soldiers - and anybody who's taught to shoot, really - are always taught to aim center mass.
There's maybe a handful of crackerjack SpecOps/Secret Service types who can reliably pull off limb shots. Others...not really.
That means if a cop shoots, they're going to be shooting to kill. Just how it is.
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That girl's leg was as big as many people's center mass...***
Apr 21, 2021, 5:23 PM
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Re: Also... "Just how it is." That's the problem.***
Apr 21, 2021, 5:36 PM
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If we want different results, we need to arm them differently, with better access to nonlethals. Rapidfire tasers, maybe loogie guns that affix people to surfaces. There's some interesting stuff out there. I've actually said that myself - we need to to de-militarize our cops, Nerf their responses a lot more, make them non-lethal takedown ninjas who have about 50 different ways of incapacitating people without killing them. A lot of that just comes down to gear, and making them really comfortable with using it...and ridding them of the reflex to just go bang-bang-bang.
With an actual gun, they're always going to shoot center mass, period. Only way to really use one unless you're some kind of Secret Service ace. I actually saw a video one time of one Secret Service agent who did put a round through one wanker's knee who was making a nuisance of himself outside the White House one time, but that guy was basically Wyatt Earp, too, had won all sorts of shooting competitions.
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We gotta shoot people so nobody gets stabbed.
Apr 21, 2021, 5:20 PM
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If that girl hadn’t been murdered, someone could’ve gotten hurt.
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Re: We gotta shoot people so nobody gets stabbed.
Apr 21, 2021, 5:25 PM
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Re: Who called the cops in that knife situation?
Apr 21, 2021, 5:27 PM
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Told ya...Chauvin verdict will be quickly forgotten.
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