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Oculus Spirit [78583]
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Has anyone else noticed this?
Oct 14, 2021, 2:00 PM
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At 2 of the games that I’ve gone to, I’ve witnessed the opposing players, Pre-snap calling out plays and even which routes that wr we’re going to b running on the play. I’m not talking about simply making a guess on defense and making a stop, I’m talking about they knew which was coming based on our formation.
That means we’ve got to call new material. Of course I’m not saying scrap everything but we need new plays and we need to switch up our verbiage so that ere not predicable and we can hopefully start attacking defenses.
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Almost as if we have been running the same plays since 2018.
Oct 14, 2021, 2:22 PM
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And havent changed anything. I for one am shocked people have figured it out!
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no sir..***
Oct 14, 2021, 2:30 PM
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Re: Has anyone else noticed this?
Oct 14, 2021, 2:35 PM
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That’s because TEis a terrible OC. He hasn’t done anything to change the offense in the last five years. His success was only based upon having one of, if not the best quarterback in the country, one of the better running backs in the country, and one of the better receiving corps in the country. The offensive success was not based upon anything TE has done, it’s strictly based on talent. Now that he has less talent to work with, his true colors are showing - he’s a terrible OC. He is not worth $2 million a year.
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Re: Has anyone else noticed this?
Oct 14, 2021, 2:44 PM
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That’s because TEis a terrible OC. He hasn’t done anything to change the offense in the last five years. His success was only based upon having one of, if not the best quarterback in the country, one of the better running backs in the country, and one of the better receiving corps in the country. The offensive success was not based upon anything TE has done, it’s strictly based on talent. Now that he has less talent to work with, his true colors are showing - he’s a terrible OC. He is not worth $2 million a year.
I agree. When the broadcast shows Elliot in the booth, he looks way too laid back with no sense of urgency. The play calling is way too vanilla, but maybe that’s due to DJ’s inexperience. TE is a good Clemson guy but he isn’t getting the job done.
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Re: Has anyone else noticed this?
Oct 14, 2021, 2:43 PM
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TE will get an APP State, ECU, or some other mid-level job this year as head coach. He'll take a couple of guys with him. Reputations and friendships can be saved and we will move forward.
And, Gruden will go to Alabama as a consultant.
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Re: Has anyone else noticed this?
Oct 14, 2021, 2:48 PM
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E-mail consultation, no doubt.
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Re: Has anyone else noticed this?
Oct 14, 2021, 3:22 PM
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I calling the plays from my house, and I'm not a defensive coordinator (I'm offensive in many ways, but I digress...).
This offense is as predictable as Rob Spence's
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Rob Spence was MORE productive
Oct 14, 2021, 4:21 PM
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than TE this year. Let that sink in.
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I don't believe you.
Oct 14, 2021, 6:12 PM
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I don't think you're calling our plays from your couch. You may hit on a running play now and then, but most often you have no idea what the play is.
People acting like they know the play before each play are funny. These are the guys who after every unsuccessful play say, "I knew we were going to run that play!!". I sit among some of these folks in the stands, and its funny how they only speak up after the play.
Maybe we should set up a thread during the game where posters try to call plays before every snap, like what are the pass routes and primary receivers etc. It would be hilarious!
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Re: I don't believe you.
Oct 14, 2021, 7:00 PM
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I believe you...are a coot.
Plus, I am and I am often right.
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Re: Has anyone else noticed this?
Oct 14, 2021, 4:01 PM
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There’s a guy that breaks down UGA footage on YouTube. During the off-season he showed a clip of Clemson during the ND game where we had a particular formation and motion, and all of NDs secondary started communicating and showing the same hand signal. The OLB flies in unblocked at the snap of the ball... and it is the play that ND scores a defensive TD blowing up the play in the backfield. But you could tell presnap that the whole back 7 knew exactly what was coming.
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Re: Has anyone else noticed this?
Oct 14, 2021, 4:16 PM
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Theres also the saying about not trying to do too much but doing a few things well. Thats all good when its new stuff. When its the same 6 plays from the past 4 years its something different entirely. TE may or may not figure this out...eventually.
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Re: Has anyone else noticed this?
Oct 14, 2021, 4:45 PM
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I am in total shock that there are other defensive coordinators and analysts that can read signals and signs other than Venables according to ACC coaches! Although my son, calls about 9 out of every 10 Clemson plays so there must be something about this predictability thing.
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Oct 14, 2021, 7:02 PM
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Re: Has anyone else noticed this?
Oct 14, 2021, 5:22 PM
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Safe to say nothing we run fools anyone. Creative and our offense are like oil and vinegar.
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Re: Has anyone else noticed this?
Oct 14, 2021, 5:27 PM
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This would explain our WRs' unprecedented inability to get separation.
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Re: Has anyone else noticed this?
Oct 14, 2021, 5:34 PM
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I've called most plays from my house: first play is a run up the middle. 2nd play is a screen pass. 3rd play is usually 3rd & 8, so it's a pass down field. Sometimes, but only rarely, plays on 1st and 2nd down are reversed.
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So you're saying that after 6 years of
Oct 14, 2021, 5:46 PM
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one of the best offenses in the country, one that led us to six straight top 4 finishes, has suddenly been figured out 5 games into this season?
Do you watch any other teams play? Every single game has defenses calling out things spotted on the other side of the ball. It's part of the game. Always has been.
Our offense has been one of the most consistently difficult to stop offenses in the CFP era. Without our gameplanning and in-game adjustments on offense, we would not have finished in the top 4 for six straight years.
Football hasn't changed. Defenses are constantly communicating and trying to determine the offensive playcall. To act like this is a new phenomenon is reaching.
Its really silly to suggest fans are seeing things in the stands or on TV that our PROVEN coaching staff isn't seeing. It's their livelihood. They've more than proven their competency. It's what they do 24/7, and we don't need any additional evidence to suggest they know what they're doing.
Name two teams who have succeeded at a higher level than us in the CFP era. Can't do it.
Do you believe that suddenly everyone has figured out how to stop us, or that maybe we're having trouble executing the proven offensive scheme?
We are trying. The staff and team is working their butts off to "attack" the defense. But when we're having some issues with the driver of the offense, that's where we are having trouble. It's not that suddenly everyone can stop us and move us from first to last in offense based on suddenly figuring it out - its that we're hurting ourselves by lack of execution.
Our issues are not that others have suddenly decoded a 6-year proven scheme. It's that we have yet to run that scheme up to its potential.
I'm with our proven head coach - it's coming.
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Oculus Spirit [78583]
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Yes smartass, I watch games. As I previously stated there is clearly a difference between
Oct 14, 2021, 7:35 PM
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making a defensive call and outright knowing the exact play we will run and the exact routes that our wr are going to run. Yes communication happens on every play. Heck, I played hs ball as a middle lb and had to qb the defense so I’m well aware of communication. However, there’s a huge difference between simply communicating a call and outright calling out exactly which routes our wr are running.
Not once did I criticize our offense on previous teams. Not once did I say that coaches haven’t noticed it. Not once did I say that the team was not trying. I know they are and I expect to see improvement but that doesn’t change the fact that more than one team this year knows what we’re going to do before we do it so we’re going to have to change some things up.
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Couldn’t disagree more.
Oct 14, 2021, 7:49 PM
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I’ve been saying this about TE for 3 years. A better offensive coordinator would have won a natty once out of the last two years with that talent. And Caldwell must retire.
New blood outside of the program is greatly needed on the offensive staff. The rest is set with Dabo and Venables.
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Its obvious when someone says derrr TE didn't forget how to coach this year
Oct 14, 2021, 8:04 PM
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That they literally have no idea what they are talking about. Its been painfully obvious how predictable and unimaginative our offense has been for years.
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Opposing Players????
Oct 14, 2021, 7:21 PM
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I would have thought you would have heard many of the fans in the stands calling the plays before they happen.
David Hood could have scripted the plays at NC State.
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