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Who has killed more children, Adam Lanza or Barack Obama?
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Who has killed more children, Adam Lanza or Barack Obama?


Jan 24, 2013, 12:19 PM

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/01/24/guns-and-president/#ixzz2ItwuVqZd

by Andrew Napalitano

Here is an uncomfortable pop quiz: Who has killed more children, Adam Lanza or Barack Obama? We’ll hold off on the answer for a few paragraphs while we look at the state of governmental excess -- including killing -- in America. But you can probably guess the correct answer from the manner in which I have posed the question.

We all know that the sheet anchor of our liberties is the Declaration of Independence. The president himself quoted Thomas Jefferson’s most famous line in his inaugural address earlier this week. He recognized that all men and women are created equal and endowed by our Creator with certain inalienable rights and that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

The president would no doubt like to modify the word “created” to read “shall be maintained,” since his presidency seems dedicated to keeping us equal, not in terms of equality of rights and opportunity but of outcome. He has dedicated himself to using the coercive power of the federal government to take from those who have and give to those who don’t. Under the Constitution, charity is a decision for individuals to make, not the government.

This forced egalitarianism was never the purpose of government in America. When the people in the original 13 states gave up some of their personal liberties to create their state governments so they could perform the services that governments in the West do, and when the states themselves gave up some of their liberties to create the federal government of limited powers to address the issues of nationhood, they never authorized government to impose taxes to transfer wealth to those who lack it or need it.

This may sound harsh, but there is simply no authority in the Constitution for the feds to tax Americans or to borrow money in their names to rebuild private homes in New Orleans or at the Jersey Shore. And there is no moral authority for that, either. If folks want to give money to those whose properties were damaged by natural disasters and lacked adequate insurance coverage, they are free to do so, but nowhere does government have the authority to compel us to do so.

This shows how far we have come from the Constitution the Founders gave us. They “constituted” a government of limited powers, and they did so because they wanted the government to protect our freedoms, since they understood that personal responsibility and freedom -- not government handouts -- are the soundest routes to prosperity. Hence, they limited the government because they knew the lessons of history. And those lessons informed them that often it is the government itself that is the greatest threat to personal freedom.

One hundred years ago, during the Progressive Era, Theodore Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson turned the concept of limited government on its head. They argued that the Constitution could be disregarded because the federal government possesses unlimited powers to address the people’s needs. Barack Obama is their ideological heir. As their heir, he is not only the head of the executive branch of the federal government, but he is also the head of one of the two dominant political parties.

That political party has dedicated itself to making certain killing legal. The Democrats have continually celebrated the abominable decision of the Supreme Court in Roe vs. Wade, issued 40 years ago this week. They have championed abortion for the past 40 years. They have assaulted the greatest and most fundamental of human rights: the right to live. In doing so, they have succeeded in causing the government to permit the killing of more than 50 million American babies in their mothers’ wombs in the past 40 years -- for the sake of convenience and sexual activity without consequence, in a manner that is antiseptic and lawful. And no one hears the babies’ cries of pain or anguish.

The president himself has more directly killed about 176 children in Pakistan by the use of CIA drones. These drones have been dispatched by him alone -- not pursuant to any congressional declaration of war. At least two of these murdered children were Americans. But since the cameras were kept away, since all of this takes place 10,000 miles from America, and since the survivors are legally and politically helpless, no one here hears the Pakistani children’s cries of pain and anguish.

One of the reasons we have the constitutionally guaranteed right to keep and bear arms is to enable us to resist a drone sent to the path of our children by shooting it down, no matter who sent it. But you can’t stop a drone with a BB gun. Hence the need for serious firepower in the hands of ordinary Americans -- to give tyrants pause and to stop tyrants when they don’t pause. The president wants to use Lanza’s horrific slaughter of 20 babies in a public school in Connecticut with a stolen gun as an excuse to restrict the freedoms of all law-abiding gun-owning Americans, any one of whom would have stopped Lanza in a heartbeat with a lawful gun, before the police could, had they been in that school.

Now back to our pop quiz: Who has killed more children, Lanza or Obama? Does a president with blood on his hands have any moral standing to infringe upon the natural right to self-defense of those whose hands are clean? Would you sacrifice your liberty to defend yourself and your children so that the government can kill whom it pleases?

The answers are obvious.

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Wow I never though of it like that


Jan 24, 2013, 12:21 PM

Thank god for foxnews, otherwise I wouldn't know what to think.

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Re: Wow I never though of it like that


Jan 24, 2013, 12:25 PM

For here we are not afraid to follow truth wherever it may lead, nor to tolerate any error so long as reason is left free to combat it." - Thomas Jefferson

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I feel this is a more appropriate quote


Jan 24, 2013, 12:31 PM

What did the five finger say to the face? SLAP - Dave Chappelle (as Rick James)

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Wow. The Intellect is astonishing.***


Jan 24, 2013, 12:36 PM



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I was going to intelligent, you don't think I hit my mark?


Jan 24, 2013, 12:39 PM

Now I'm sad.

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Re: I was going to intelligent, you don't think I hit my mark?


Jan 24, 2013, 12:41 PM

It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.-- Mark Twain

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Sorry how about this one


Jan 24, 2013, 12:47 PM

I love lamp - Steve Carrell (as Brick Tamland)

As an aside, my last two quotes are a deep as the drivel you just posted, and in their own way, much more intelligent.

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so not making an argument is more intelligent than making


Jan 24, 2013, 12:53 PM

an argument. gotcha. In a way you are right. Deflecting is a great strategy if your goal is to maintain public opinion which would other wise not be maintain if the truth were fully dealt with.

good job

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An important lesson I've learned on message boards


Jan 24, 2013, 12:59 PM

You don't want to debate, your world view is not going to change based on anything I type

What you posted could be said about any president. When Bush was President you could write an op piece about how a pro life president has the blood of hundreds and possible thousands of middle eastern children on his hands. The argument would be just a disingenuous and would be in poor taste, but you would have plenty of people on the left saying, yea, he's a baby killer.

You could do the same thing with Clinton, Bush I, Reagan...etc.

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Yes i have and will again make the same argument about all


Jan 24, 2013, 1:02 PM

those presidents. some to a lesser extent than others. Obama is a bad continuation of a bad bush administration.

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So, you just don't like presidents?


Jan 24, 2013, 1:04 PM

Can you name 1 in the last 100 years that the op ed piece couldn't be written about?

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Ha ironically 1913 starts a pretty bad era


Jan 24, 2013, 2:16 PM

some worse that others obviously.

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So how was this article insightful in anyway?


Jan 24, 2013, 2:19 PM

I understand both sides of the gun control issue. I own guns, I like guns, but the calling the president a murder so he can't talk about gun control is a stupid argument meant to appeal to the least common denominator.

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ORLY? So that's why you called Bush Hitler, right?


Jan 24, 2013, 2:31 PM

BOOM

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I dent call him Hitler


Jan 24, 2013, 2:38 PM

I called him a combination of Ted Bundy, Hitler, Stalin, and Pol Pot.

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LOL. Such a partisan hack. What a sad life.***


Jan 24, 2013, 2:51 PM



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You do realize that was a joke


Jan 24, 2013, 2:55 PM

I don't recall thinking Bush was anything like Hitler or any other dictator.

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Qouted from the article


Jan 24, 2013, 2:34 PM [ in reply to So how was this article insightful in anyway? ]

"One of the reasons we have the constitutionally guaranteed right to keep and bear arms is to enable us to resist a drone sent to the path of our children by shooting it down, no matter who sent it. But you can’t stop a drone with a BB gun. Hence the need for serious firepower in the hands of ordinary Americans -- to give tyrants pause and to stop tyrants when they don’t pause."

Just because your are president don't mean you get blind loyalty. the point of the separation of powers is to keep absolute power away from one individual. Obama or Bush or whoever. Bush and Obama may not be evil guys and they might use power for good most of the time. put both have accumulated power to the executive branch that are unconstitutional for a reason. One day there is going to be a bad guy. The judge uses this misuse of power to 1 show the hypocrisy of an illegal war. and as much as i despise Bush, Obama is the current President playing king.

Never forget that everything Hitler did in Germany was legal - Martin Luther King, Jr.

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Yes, I like it


Jan 24, 2013, 2:37 PM

We shoot down drones with our rifles. I've been begging my gun range to put up some flying drone targets so I can practice. What type of gun are you using to shoot down the drones. I'm thinking of installing and anti aircraft turret on my roof.

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Have you been fighting fires again?


Jan 24, 2013, 2:42 PM

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/80566709/

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It's 1:48 on a Thursday afternoon


Jan 24, 2013, 2:49 PM

That should answer your question

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OMG I was looking to see the minimum firepower


Jan 24, 2013, 2:50 PM [ in reply to Yes, I like it ]

people have used to shoot down drones and found this. This is the funniest thing I've ever seen.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/02/17/citizens-shoot-down-animal-rights-groups-surveillance-drone/

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OMG LOL!!!


Jan 24, 2013, 2:53 PM

That is like soooo funny.

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HAHA I thought you would like it


Jan 24, 2013, 2:56 PM

=/

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Totally posted the link on my buddybook


Jan 24, 2013, 2:57 PM

All my friends are like OMG LOL bro they shot down the copter. Go MERICA...USA USA USA

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^^^^^President of Showing Animals Respect and Kindness


Jan 24, 2013, 3:12 PM

Thought for sure you were a Gamecock.

POOT!

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You should have thought of that earlier!***


Jan 24, 2013, 4:38 PM [ in reply to Re: I was going to intelligent, you don't think I hit my mark? ]



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ahh, Fox News. the last bastion of real reporting...


Jan 24, 2013, 12:28 PM

ridiculous!!!

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Funny that people who can't think for themselves veil


Jan 24, 2013, 12:32 PM

their criticism with the implication that others succumb to the same ignorance that has plagued them all their life. All in an attempt to create noise so they don't have to deal with truth. "Crank that raidio up Jim I'm thinking about why my wife left me again... and pass me another beer."

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yep,. thats me. you know me so well...***


Jan 24, 2013, 12:36 PM



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i only know what you just told us all.***


Jan 24, 2013, 12:43 PM



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^^^^pseudo-intelectual ^^^^***


Jan 24, 2013, 2:19 PM



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Re: ^^^^pseudo-intelectual ^^^^***


Jan 24, 2013, 2:37 PM

Ironic you call someone else dumb and then misspell it

In case he edits the original was written: ^^^^pseudo-intelectual ^^^^***

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Funny how a person who claims to think for himself


Jan 24, 2013, 12:37 PM [ in reply to Funny that people who can't think for themselves veil ]

Posts a link to someone else's thoughts, and then pats himself on the back for thinking them as well.

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Re: Funny how a person who claims to think for himself


Jan 24, 2013, 12:42 PM

you got me dave

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That's an opinion piece...not reporting.***


Jan 24, 2013, 2:47 PM [ in reply to ahh, Fox News. the last bastion of real reporting... ]



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That's a great point, but pretty hypocritical of Fox News***


Jan 24, 2013, 12:29 PM



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Re: Who has killed more children, Adam Lanza or Barack Obama?


Jan 24, 2013, 12:40 PM

I don't care what FOX News says, Obama said "if we save one child, it's worth it"...but does nothing about abortion which kills millions of children.

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for Fox News readers...


Jan 24, 2013, 12:42 PM

http://publicmind.fdu.edu/2011/knowless/

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Ahh. Fairleigh Dickinson University the last bastion of


Jan 24, 2013, 12:50 PM

unbiased statistical research and analysis. (see anybody can do that)

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More nuttiness from the nutbags that Republicans take their


Jan 24, 2013, 12:45 PM

marching orders from.

Democrats love this kind of stuff. It lets them know the Republicans still haven't figured out what's wrong with their party.

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Re: More nuttiness from the nutbags that Republicans take their


Jan 24, 2013, 1:09 PM

The irony. The pure irony.

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"They aren't making enough angry white guys" Lindsey Graham


Jan 24, 2013, 1:13 PM

on the Republican Party's struggles. Lindsey knows that the contortions he has to make to appeal to his SC base are not good for the party in the short or long term.

Keep it up. We love it.

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Re: More nuttiness from the nutbags that Republicans take their


Jan 24, 2013, 1:55 PM [ in reply to More nuttiness from the nutbags that Republicans take their ]

^^^^^watches MSNBC

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Dead wrong again. I watch Fox Business Channel


Jan 24, 2013, 2:17 PM

in the morning so I can watch the Imus show. I turn it off when Stuart Varney(not an American Citizen) starts his blabbering.

You should know better than to get your information from a tv show.

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How is a simple fact of reality "nuttiness?"***


Jan 24, 2013, 2:20 PM [ in reply to More nuttiness from the nutbags that Republicans take their ]



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If we really knew what the military industrial complex was


Jan 24, 2013, 12:49 PM

doing in the middle east in would make you think twice about waving the USA flag. What people like Julain Assange and Bradley Manning did was help spread the truth through the internet which is exactly what the government does not want the people to know. Why are we there and how come we just couldn't march our troops out of there like Ron Paul said he would do if he became president? If we are trying to spread democracy, then why not go into the Sudan or other parts of the world that are run by evil dictators? Are we really there for national security or for pure economic reasons due to oil and other conflict minerals and resources?

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Preach it brotha


Jan 24, 2013, 2:29 PM

Agree completely.

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Re: Who has killed more children, Adam Lanza or Barack Obama?


Jan 24, 2013, 12:58 PM

And how many children were killed by G.W.Bush in his war against Saddam Hussien and his weapons of mass destruction?
This is a sports website,not a poltical debate forum.
Why don't we keep it at that unless of course you care to go back and discuss F.D.R. and Pearl Harbor or Lincoln going to war just to perserve "HIS" Union since basically the Union was dissolved after he won the Presidency!

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^^^^^Forgot he was in the amphitheater


Jan 24, 2013, 1:06 PM

1. Yes i was against bush too
2. This is in the amphitheater
3. FDR is Bad Lincoln is sorta bad

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Re: Who has killed more children, Adam Lanza or Barack Obama?


Jan 24, 2013, 1:11 PM

Here is my solution.Flat tax for everyone and only those who file income tax returns have the right to vote. What say you?

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I'm personally againt all immoral forms of taxation


Jan 24, 2013, 3:14 PM

Income and property taxes being the worst.

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Re: Who has killed more children, Adam Lanza or Barack Obama?


Jan 24, 2013, 1:13 PM

Why would the racists tubs of lard that watch fox news care about pakistani children? They don't even care about impoverished children in this country. All they care about is shoving chickfilhate in their fat faces and sitting on their butts watching tv.

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Wow, just wow. I felt the wind from that broad


Jan 24, 2013, 1:33 PM

sweeping generalization. Until this country starts looking for truth again and not for something to score points for "their guy" on a message board or conversation at the office , we will be continue the slide. We should not trust anybody in a position of government power absolutely. There is a lot of that going around these days and it only benefits the powerful and screws the subjects.

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'I Cannot Sanction Your Buffoonery'


I wonder how Obama would have felt with a private drone hovering over


Jan 24, 2013, 1:33 PM

his head during the Inauguration? Just a private citizen flying one of those radio controlled quadracopters.

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Re: Who has killed more children, Adam Lanza or Barack Obama?


Jan 24, 2013, 1:35 PM

Fox News = uninformed republicans
MSNBC = uninformed democrats
ESPN = uninformed SEC fans

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Crump <3 $EC


Take your politics to the politics board***


Jan 24, 2013, 1:41 PM



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my bad i didn't know murder was political***


Jan 24, 2013, 1:58 PM



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Les Miles said he killed Dreams...***


Jan 24, 2013, 2:00 PM



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They really padded that one, huh?


Jan 24, 2013, 2:27 PM

The topic is Adam Lanza versus Barack Obama for kid murder high score, which is a pretty idiotic point to be making in itself, but the fact that the first seven paragraphs have absolutely nothing to do with the point of the article is hilarious. I guess when they realized that subject would only take up about two sentences they had to pad it with other partisan garbage. They should've thrown in some stuff about global warming while they were at it.

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LOL. I noticed that too.


Jan 24, 2013, 5:04 PM

As I was reading I kept thinking...is there an actual point?

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Great googly moogly.***


Jan 24, 2013, 4:36 PM



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Re: Who has killed more children, Adam Lanza or Barack Obama?


Jan 24, 2013, 5:04 PM

When did FOXNEWS hire Napalitano back? I thought that he was too much of a wingnut for even FOXNEWS and they fired him last year!

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