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Orange Blooded [2203]
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Brass Tacks time. Are we in the top 4 tonight or not?
Oct 31, 2017, 6:40 AM
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My gut tells me we will be 5.
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Re: Brass Tacks time. Are we in the top 4 tonight or not?
Oct 31, 2017, 6:45 AM
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My guess is no.
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All-TigerNet [13359]
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Should be but won’t be.***
Oct 31, 2017, 6:49 AM
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Orange Blooded [2383]
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I think Pollack has it right
Oct 31, 2017, 6:59 AM
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He predicted:
1. Georgia
2. Alabama
3. Clemson
4. Notre Dame
Based on what the committee has valued in the past, I think this is the likely top 4 tonight.
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Re: Brass Tacks time. Are we in the top 4 tonight or not?
Oct 31, 2017, 7:50 AM
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I agree with 5. But, with a win this weekend I think we will move up to 4 next week. Like Al Davis said, just win baby, win!
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Orange Blooded [4423]
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1. bama 2. uga 3. oh state 4. clemson
Oct 31, 2017, 8:37 AM
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ohio state has a 'better loss' than us and also has a win against Penn State who was 2. They will go on and on about Bama and Georgia passing the "eye test" in the mighty SEC.
5-7 will be Notre Dame, Penn State, and Wisconsin.
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Re: Brass Tacks time. Are we in the top 4 tonight or not?
Oct 31, 2017, 8:38 AM
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I guess #4
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CU Guru [1186]
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Re: Brass Tacks time. Are we in the top 4 tonight or not?
Oct 31, 2017, 8:42 AM
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I predict:
1. Bama
2. UGA
3. Ohio St.
4. Notre Dame
5. Clemson
6. Wisconsin
No worries though - these first rankings don’t mean squat. It’s the last ones that count!!!
GO TIGERS!!!!
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Orange Blooded [4561]
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Agree
Oct 31, 2017, 9:10 AM
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The question that will be answered is this: Are quality wins weighted more than bad losses?
ND lost to UGA (good loss)
OSU lost to OSU (good loss)
Clemson lost to Syracuse (LOL)
But...
Clemson was the first team to beat 3 Top 15 teams before October
UGA beat 1 good team
ND has 2 wins over top 25 teams
OSU has 1 good win
Bama and Wisconsin have yet to get a quality win
Those are just the considerations for the 1st poll. By the time the next 4 weeks play out the facts will change... but the tendencies of the committee shouldn't change. Ergo, the only thing I care about with tonight's rankings is how the committee views Clemson's loss to Syracuse versus UGA's, ND's and OSU's few good wins.
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CU Guru [1186]
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Re: Agree
Oct 31, 2017, 10:24 AM
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Great point! I agree whichever they hold in higher regard for weighting, just at least stay consistent until the final rankings!
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Orange Blooded [2531]
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No. Not worthy right now. 5***
Oct 31, 2017, 9:26 AM
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I hope not.
Oct 31, 2017, 9:36 AM
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Being ranked high right now is a matter of pride. For the sake of Dabo having the disrespect card in his hand I hope we are ranked outside the top.
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Re: Brass Tacks time. Are we in the top 4 tonight or not?
Oct 31, 2017, 9:46 AM
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Most of the talking heads I've heard this morning are expecting to see
1. UGA/Bama (Most saying UGA because of their win over ND and Bama's win over no one)
2. Bama/UGA
3. ND
4. Clemson
Then there's a lot of debate over the order of Oklahoma, OSU, PSU, and Wisconsin for the next 4.
They care way more about our wins than the loss.
It's odd, it seems like when we lost, most immediately excused it because of KB being hurt. They were like oh, they'll be fine as long as he comes back. It's almost like it we got a mulligan. I feel like that's never happened before and it has been the first time I felt like we sort of have the respect of the media.
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Re: Brass Tacks time. Are we in the top 4 tonight or not?
Oct 31, 2017, 10:08 AM
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Some of you guys are not keeping in mind all factors that the committee looks at.
http://collegefootballplayoff.com/documents/2017/10/20//CFP_Selection_Committee_Protocol.pdf?id=23
College Football Playoff Selection Committee Protocol
2.Principles
. The committee will select the teams using a process that distinguishes among otherwise
comparable teams by considering:
* Conference championships won,
* Strength of schedule,
* Head-to-head competition,
* Comparative outcomes of common opponents (without incenting margin of victory), and,
* Other relevant factors such as key injuries that may have affected a team’s performance during
the season or likely will affect its postseason performance.
^ This means that yes, though Clemson lost to Syracuse (only by 3 points, on the road), Kelly Bryant getting injured in the 1st half WILL become a point of discussion in regards to the loss, which could help as far as how the committee views the loss.
Strength of schedule/strength of record (per ESPN, the likely one to be looked at):
http://www.espn.com/college-football/playoffPicture
Clemson: SOS #5, SOR #3
Alabama: SOS #51, SOR #4
Georgia: SOS #36, SOR #1
Oh State: SOS #35, SOR #9
Wisconsin: SOS #80, SOR #11
As you can see, combined, Clemson schedule is better overall than any of the other 4 playoff contenders, and only UGA has a better SOR, but not a better SOS.
https://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/ranking/schedule-strength-by-other
Per Teamrankings if they use that, Clemson (#4 SOS) only has one team in this mix that is ahead of them in Strength of Schedule (OH State @ #2)...ND @ #7, UGA @ #8, Alabama @ #38, and Wisc @ #62 are all lower. Per ESPN, it's the same.
I think Byrant's injury early in the loss, strength of schedule, plus the ranked wins of VT and AU will have Clemson in the top 4.
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Re: Brass Tacks time. Are we in the top 4 tonight or not?
Oct 31, 2017, 10:17 AM
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Yes. I'd predict #3.
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Yes
Oct 31, 2017, 10:33 AM
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