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CU Medallion [55747]
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A Dem super majority scares me. Four more years of DJT
Aug 6, 2020, 12:35 PM
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scares me.
Economic policy-wise, four more years of DJT would be better than a Dem super majority.
Leadership and sanity-wise, it's a toss up b/c I sincerely think Biden has dementia/Alzheimer's but Trump is demonstrably incapable of statesmanship/leadership.
Peace in our country-wise, the Dems might calm things down a bit. At least for a while. But at a huge cost.
I see no good choices in November.
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Legend [16797]
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China's not interested in
Aug 6, 2020, 12:43 PM
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Statesmanship...look at their global activity. Doesn't appear anyone else is entertaining the thought of standing up to them, either. The world seems to be in a state of flux...and statesmanship is non-existent...IMO...
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Oculus Spirit [97719]
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Same here. Writing in Donald
Aug 6, 2020, 12:44 PM
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DUCK.
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110%er [7207]
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Trump might claim those votes as votes for him.***
Aug 6, 2020, 1:04 PM
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Oculus Spirit [97719]
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He can claim the moon landing was fake. IDK***
Aug 6, 2020, 1:52 PM
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All-TigerNet [12030]
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Dems won't need a super majority. Filibuster will be canned.***
Aug 6, 2020, 12:47 PM
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Re: Dems won't need a super majority. Filibuster will be canned.***
Aug 6, 2020, 3:49 PM
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Yep.
Whoever takes the Senate is more than likely going to kill it completely this time. Honestly, they should. Anyone who wants to support the Constitution on either side should support it going away. It spells out when you needed a super majority and for what. Filibuster was invented rule that they have kept out of tradition that added things that were never intended to require more than a simple majority.
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Re: A Dem super majority scares me. Four more years of DJT
Aug 6, 2020, 12:52 PM
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A Dem super majority (any party super majority) IS scary. Having a Dem president, House, and Senate will allow the party to jam its agenda down our throats for at least two years, and for the most part, unchecked. Balance is important in our government now.
But this is the stage that has been set by the GOP and idiot Trumpies. They foolishly backed this clown, doubled down on him when they should have booted him, and then rubbed it in our faces as if Team Trump is their football team.
I, too, dread a Dem super majority. But such is the result when the GOP hitches their wagon to a fascist--yes, he is--imbecile.
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110%er [7207]
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Just like when Clinton passed his healthcare bill.***
Aug 6, 2020, 1:06 PM
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Something's wrong with Trump. I don't know if it's dementia
Aug 6, 2020, 1:12 PM
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or Alzheimer's or what, it very well may be, but something isn't right with him.
I think all, including those of you who are diagnosing Biden, would agree with that.
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All-In [49173]
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Agree. He's not the same since Rona hit.
Aug 6, 2020, 1:19 PM
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but remember that time he (sorta) shut down travel from CHINA and Europe? That was awesome.
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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I see no reason why the dems would calm people down
Aug 6, 2020, 1:12 PM
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are they doing that now?
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Look how much better things got when Trump
Aug 6, 2020, 1:16 PM
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All-TigerNet [12030]
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This is what baffles me...
Aug 6, 2020, 1:29 PM
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A lot of voters, particularly suburban women, think Biden and Dems will be a 'return to normal'.
What is the evidence for this? Are the Dems doing anything at all to condemn the actions by these 'peaceful protesters'? Not one word of condemnation. Dems are in lockstep solidarity with this chaos. There's not a doubt in my mind that a Biden admin would immediately stop all Federal prosecutions of those arrested in these riots.
Trump's press briefings, interviews, and twitter are often times cringe-worthy clown shows. But I'll take that over what the Dems are offering.
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All-TigerNet [11196]
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The simple absence of Trump will be like a
Aug 6, 2020, 2:38 PM
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big fat doob to mellow out the country. Wont have to worry about his constant shid-poasting/trollimg and its effect on the day to day mews cycle, foreign and domestic issues, and economic policies and nobody will give a d a m n about his habitual lying problems.
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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I highly doubt removing one liar...
Aug 6, 2020, 2:55 PM
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will diminish the lying in this country.
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Removing over 20,000 lies in one fell swoop is a good start.
Aug 6, 2020, 3:00 PM
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So, there's that.
Trump is the Wilt Chamberlain of liars.
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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I'll have to surrender a +1 for that***
Aug 6, 2020, 4:38 PM
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All-TigerNet [11196]
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You have to admit a stark difference in current POTUS's
Aug 6, 2020, 3:38 PM
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general behavior(including habitual, unrepentant lying) and every single other one in the entire history of our country.
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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so here's my whole thing about that....
Aug 6, 2020, 4:55 PM
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and I highly doubt we will agree...
And I can only speak for myself, because I am talking about how I feel. I'm pretty much desensitized to all of this crap that Trump does. I don't like him. He makes me cringe, but it doesn't bother me a whole lot because:
1) While Obama didn't start it, I think he was the most divisive POTUS we have had. While it can be argued that he was much more "diplomatic" in his insults, he was very condescending toward people who disagreed with him. I think he is just like Trump, only in a more "dignified" way.
2) I believe Trump is a direct result of 8 years of Obama. Republicans were constantly railroaded because they had no spine. The Tea Party became the MAGA crowd. And Hillary was highly unlikable by most.
3) There is also what is seen by many as a double standard. Hillary can store official emails on a private server. Then she can destroy the evidence and get away with it. Biden makes deals, his son profits. No big deal. Transparent Obama blocks FOI access to records. No outrage. The list goes on and on.
4) Consistent crying wolf and made up stuff about Trump over the last four years. Fake dossier.... Yawn.
The whole place is corrupt. So if you weren't butthurt over any of the stuff liberals dis, I'm not going to be butthurt over what Trump does.
I have enough personal integrity that Trump could do something that I would demand his ouster. But I haven't seen that yet.
I think there are a lot of Americans. like me, who are completely desensitized to it. Just a lot of hypocrisy.
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All-TigerNet [11196]
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You’re right, we don’t agree.
Aug 6, 2020, 5:53 PM
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That’s ok, man.
While, I don’t think Obama was a terribly effective potus in his first term, he got better at his job. He put the work in and learned what he needed to do. Trump doesn’t GAF about any kind of learning or improving his woeful leadership skills. He seems perfectly happy to make an a z z of himself and America without the slightest regret.
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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you do make a point that makes sense...
Aug 6, 2020, 6:01 PM
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when Obama got elected, while I didn't vote for him, I thought it was kind of cool that we had broken the race barrier. I thought his victory speech was great. I was (or at least think) willing to give him a chance.
He killed that pretty quickly, doubled down several times...there wasn't much he could do right after that in a second term. I won't say he never tried to be bipartisan, but I don't recall him ever trying too unite the country apart from his first term victory speech.
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All-TigerNet [11196]
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Trying to ramrod Obamacare through like he did
Aug 6, 2020, 6:19 PM
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was stupid. It would’ve been much better for America had the thing passed in it’s entirety or outright killed when they saw only part of it would get by. After that, cant blame GOP for taking the gloves off. His pizzing match with McConnell is also regrettable.
I voted for him the first time around because Palin had no business being that close to the presidency. Second time I voted for Romney because Obama was just not effective. At least he improved himself, got better at his job. I don’t envision Biden being a great potus, but its clear to me that America needs to separate itself from the Trump clan.
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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I can't argue any point there...
Aug 6, 2020, 8:52 PM
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very sensible approach.
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Right. So the Dem's base will just sit and chill...
Aug 6, 2020, 2:58 PM
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if they fail to pass the following....
Wealth/401k tax
Universal healthcare/rationing
Gun registration/confiscation
Court packing
Fairness doctrine
DC/Puerto Rico statehood
Federal control of local police
HUD housing in the wealthy burbs
Hate speech laws (like UK and Germany)
Using fed water rules (WOTUS) to control and confiscate rural farm land
Felon voting
Yeah I can totally see the young Dem base saying, "We didn't really want any of that. We're just glad Trump is gone."
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All-TigerNet [12030]
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Plus $5/gal gasoline and doubled electric bills***
Aug 6, 2020, 3:02 PM
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All-TigerNet [12030]
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Plus student loan and illegal immigration amnesty***
Aug 6, 2020, 3:09 PM
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All-TigerNet [11196]
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You forgot mandatory
Aug 6, 2020, 3:43 PM
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cute puppy beating
baby smacking
kitten killing
toddler torture
elderly execution
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required antifa indoctrination.
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All-In [42161]
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This
Aug 6, 2020, 3:41 PM
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Again, I don't expect Biden to be a good or effective president.
However, the Tweets will be gone. The divisive comments will be gone. The arrogance and narcissism will be gone. The ######## flag waving, boat parades, and team Trump #### will all go out to the curb faster than Gamecock gear in November.
It won't be great, but it will bring us back to some sanity. We need it badly now.
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Oculus Spirit [79429]
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I like how some of you are completely able to ignore 2
Aug 6, 2020, 3:55 PM
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months of rioting, looting, businesses being burned, statues toppled, innocent people beaten/accosted while acting like Trump boat parades are the cause of the divisiveness. It amazes and scares me at the same time that so many otherwise sane, rational people have become so delusional in regards to Trump.
I mean, I don't even like the guy. But he's not the reason they burned a Wendy's and shot up a little girl in Atlanta. You think they'll stop all that #### just because he's not in office?
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I don't like Trump, but like you said, he's not the cause of
Aug 6, 2020, 4:53 PM
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riots and looting. However, he is a racist who has dog whistled a lot of bad behavior. The peaceful demonstrations, rioting, and racial divide will not be over whenever he's gone, but I imagine it will be lessened under Biden (I'm not voting for him either) if he wins.
And in the larger picture, things are not going to "return to normal" any time soon whenever Trump is gone.
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Lessened under Biden?
Aug 6, 2020, 4:57 PM
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Joe “they’re gonna put y’all in chains” Biden?
Yes, I can feel the uniting beginning already. That’s the thing......it takes this keen “dog whistle” hearing to be hip to Trump’s “racism”. Joe just puts it right out there.
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All-In [49173]
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not for me to get on a soapbox and defend every iffy quote
Aug 6, 2020, 5:21 PM
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from Joe, but do you have anything more recent? The Obama/Biden ticket won reelection after that quote, and as I recall, it didn't turn into a major stink, like, "there's very fine people on both sides"
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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it probably won't make much of a difference...
Aug 6, 2020, 5:30 PM
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but the black community is noticing this stuff...
And on the Obama/Biden ticket, Joe could have used the "n'" word on a daily basis and it wouldn't have made a difference.
Besides, I thought the VP never mattered anyway.
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Okay, I'll entertain that...
Aug 6, 2020, 5:17 PM
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His divisiveness existed well before those riots, and when the situation arose, his comments and actions helped to escalate them, not quell them.
If anything, the fact that they have continued to occur under his watch adds to the reasons he needs to get the boot.
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Lot o points [155907]
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I certainly remember all the harmony and coming
Aug 6, 2020, 4:46 PM
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Together that Obama facilitated. Man it was one big happy world. I’m ready to be done with all these wars Trump has gotten us into.
When divide and conquer is the modus operandus of a party, they don’t stop because it helped them win.
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My hope with a super majority is that we finally
Aug 6, 2020, 3:01 PM
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get #### done around the country.
Get UHC done and not some half ### Obamacare.
Increase minimum wage and tie it to inflation
Change the tax code
Even stuff that would be rough to pass like increasing the minimum age of Social Security and Medicaid
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never knew you were a commie...***
Aug 6, 2020, 3:26 PM
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All-In [46825]
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As much as any person living in any other modern
Aug 6, 2020, 4:40 PM
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country is
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Cute retort***
Aug 6, 2020, 4:41 PM
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Rock Defender [53]
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Just being real
Aug 6, 2020, 4:44 PM
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Didn't realize you were my CPA
Aug 6, 2020, 4:47 PM
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My CPA isn't that much of a racist. At least to my face
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Legend [17774]
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Sounds like the Kansas GOP Primary results will greatly aide
Aug 6, 2020, 4:29 PM
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Sounds like the Kansas GOP Primary results will greatly aide the GOP in keeping the Senate.
I'd be happy with Joe and [insert VP candidate] along with a Dem House and GOP Senate.
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out of the possible outcomes, I'd take that.
Aug 6, 2020, 4:55 PM
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rather not see Dems get House, Senate, and Pres. Gridlock and/or compromise is better than socialism.
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Re: out of the possible outcomes, I'd take that.
Aug 6, 2020, 6:29 PM
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gridlock is beautiful!
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Re: A Dem super majority scares me. Four more years of DJT
Aug 6, 2020, 6:28 PM
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trump should get 2 extra years for his first term, due to obamagate
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