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8 Team Playoff (long) Question
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8 Team Playoff (long) Question


Dec 22, 2020, 9:01 AM

I’ll start off by saying I’m not an 8 team proponent. I’ve never thought in any given year that there are 5 teams (or more) worthy of being called the best (that year.) Typically, it’s 2 and sometimes 3 teams...but 5? Or even 8? I haven’t seen that.

With that said, I understand most of the 8 team CFP arguments. The one that makes the most sense is, the obvious, having automatic entry by earning your way in by winning your conference. (Frankly, in my opinion, I’ve always thought that should be a criteria now even in the 4 team playoff.). But putting that aside and let’s play out this idea of the P5 winners plus three.

It’s the plus three that I get hung up on. Who and how does the ‘plus’s three’ get determined? What happens when the ACCCG’s loser (or the SEC’s loser (even though they are all losers IMO) is clearly better then the say the AAC’s winner? Or the MAC’s winner? Mostly, the losers of those conference championships are generally going to be pretty dang good and better then, even say, #3 in their own conference. Why would #3 get in even if they didn’t play for the conference championship (Alabama the other year comes to mind when they didn’t play for the SEC championship and still got in)

The same place we find ourselves in today in with all the problems that the 4 team playoff provides — an 8 team playoff doesn’t seem to solve most of those with the one exception of letting more of the “perceived” good teams in.

To me, an 8 team CFP idea is just a feel good story. A participation award attempt per se.

I’ll say this — in only the few short years that we have had the 4 team CFP — has the crowned champion ever been wrong? (Other then when Bama beat us in #1. We were better and should have won. But hey, that happens. At least the two best teams played). To me, the 4 team CFP is correct in getting a us to “the best 2” to play it out and who is better that day.

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Where did you get the premise


Dec 22, 2020, 7:10 PM

that "5 or more" has the possibly "best" team? That's not the point of 8 teams. If that were the case, there'd be no more than about 3 or 4 teams in ANY sport playoff - NFL, college basketball, and so forth.
The point is to try to represent the whole country in an equivocal way, and, yes, allow for a "sleeper" team out of the other so-called weaker team to get hot and put it all together. Cinderalla always deserves a shot. Under your theory, never allow Cinderella a shot. But yet, there have been surprise winners in every sport when "weaker" teams have been allowed in.

8 is best. That puts your 5 PC winners in, and allows for 3 more at-large, very good teams. That wouldn't be hard to do.

This year, those at-larges would be maybe a Coastal, Cinti, and A & M or another hot team such as Okie. Would make it more interesting. And any of these would be comparable to ND or OSU.

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The CFP has NEVER been about "representing the country in an


Dec 22, 2020, 7:13 PM

equivocal way." They parrot over and over again, their job is to pick the four best teams, period. PER-I-OD.

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That "4 best teams" crap is one of the biggest problems with


Dec 22, 2020, 8:31 PM

the CFP! It is highly subjective, whereas, deciding on the best four of the five P5 champs would eliminate much of that subjectivity! Instead of deciding on "the best 4", the committee only has to determine who's the worst of the five CCG winners, leave that one out and seed the other four!
















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This year the extra 4 would have been.


Dec 22, 2020, 9:09 PM [ in reply to Where did you get the premise ]

Oregon, Texas AM, Cincy, and OKU.

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Re: 8 Team Playoff (long) Question


Dec 22, 2020, 7:20 PM

The only way expanding to 8 makes any sense is to give the mid-majors a chance.

For all the talk that the Bucknuts should have been excluded this year, no other teams really made a case to take their place. The struggle to find a fourth was real this year, leading to a debate about two teams that demonstrated on the field that they did not belong with ND squeaking through.

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No


Dec 22, 2020, 7:52 PM

(Disclaimer) I didn’t read the question

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NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL, MLS should all go to four team playoffs.***


Dec 22, 2020, 8:16 PM



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Re: 8 Team Playoff (long) Question


Dec 22, 2020, 8:58 PM


I’ll start off by saying I’m not an 8 team proponent. I’ve never thought in any given year that there are 5 teams (or more) worthy of being called the best (that year.) Typically, it’s 2 and sometimes 3 teams...but 5? Or even 8? I haven’t seen that.

With that said, I understand most of the 8 team CFP arguments. The one that makes the most sense is, the obvious, having automatic entry by earning your way in by winning your conference. (Frankly, in my opinion, I’ve always thought that should be a criteria now even in the 4 team playoff.). But putting that aside and let’s play out this idea of the P5 winners plus three.

It’s the plus three that I get hung up on. Who and how does the ‘plus’s three’ get determined? What happens when the ACCCG’s loser (or the SEC’s loser (even though they are all losers IMO) is clearly better then the say the AAC’s winner? Or the MAC’s winner? Mostly, the losers of those conference championships are generally going to be pretty dang good and better then, even say, #3 in their own conference. Why would #3 get in even if they didn’t play for the conference championship (Alabama the other year comes to mind when they didn’t play for the SEC championship and still got in)

The same place we find ourselves in today in with all the problems that the 4 team playoff provides — an 8 team playoff doesn’t seem to solve most of those with the one exception of letting more of the “perceived” good teams in.

To me, an 8 team CFP idea is just a feel good story. A participation award attempt per se.

I’ll say this — in only the few short years that we have had the 4 team CFP — has the crowned champion ever been wrong? (Other then when Bama beat us in #1. We were better and should have won. But hey, that happens. At least the two best teams played). To me, the 4 team CFP is correct in getting a us to “the best 2” to play it out and who is better that day.



Nah, 8 is just the next step because the powers drag their feet. 16 gets to the ideal.

4 rounds of fun ?????? Gives the smaller schools a chance to get in a champion and we can get some exciting matchups.

Here's your pairing this year based on the CFP Rankings messed with some for no rematches and fun

1) Alabama vs 16) BYU

2) Clemson vs 15) Iowa

3) Ohio State vs 14) Coastal Carolina

4) Notre Dame vs 13) Northwestern

5) Texas A&M vs 12) North Carolina

6) Oklahoma vs 11) Indiana

7) Florida vs 10) Iowa State

8) Cincinnati vs 9) Georgia

Tell me if that doesn't spice things up some.!

Yeah, on paper there are some potential mismatches but I guarantee you plenty of people are tuning in just to see if one of the underdogs can take down one of the big boys ??????

Sign. Me. Up. ??????

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Re: 8 Team Playoff (long) Question


Dec 23, 2020, 12:02 AM

How long a season do these college football "amateurs" have to play until all regions, media and fan groups are satisfied that their team got a fair shake? Clemson has been playing 14-15 game seasons for several years. Do they need to play a pro season now?

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