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Homicide stats
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It's fascinating that for all of the Tnutter hysteria about cities, when you look at the national map of homicide rates, the ten states where homicide rates are highest are...
1. Mississippi
2. Louisiana
3. Alabama
4. New Mexico
5. South Carolina
6. Missouri
7. Illinois
8. Tennessee
9. Maryland
10. Arkansas
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/homicide_mortality/homicide.htm
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yeah, butt how many of those are
May 30, 2023, 12:51 PM
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#### rail gun deaths and how many are attributable to a fire arm
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oh, and f crmpmst and their sensorship of
May 30, 2023, 12:51 PM
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Re: oh, and f crmpmst and their sensorship of
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May 30, 2023, 12:54 PM
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Oh, I thought you were into competitive first person shooters, the rail gun is a formidable weapon.
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Haven't shot a railgun since Quake 3 Arena***
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Definitely the most fun Merriweather mission in GTAV.***
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Southerners are better shots ?
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May 30, 2023, 12:53 PM
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That's what I draw from that data.
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the outcome
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May 30, 2023, 12:57 PM
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of the civil war disagrees, but you go ahead and wave those confederate flags anyway, everyone knows liberals stole the outcome of the civil war.
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actually more Yankees died in the war
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May 30, 2023, 12:59 PM
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they just had more to lose
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Re: actually more Yankees died in the war
May 30, 2023, 1:00 PM
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Are you using that "new" math that T3T seems to be advocating?
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Re: 360,222 Union deaths and 258,000 Confederate deaths
May 30, 2023, 1:05 PM
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SEE, proof that it was safer being a Confederate!
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Re: Homicide stats
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May 30, 2023, 12:55 PM
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did they teach math at Podunk, SC Jr. High School?
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May 30, 2023, 12:56 PM
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how about history?
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Re: Homicide stats
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May 30, 2023, 12:57 PM
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"Homicide" is pretty specific. If you don't like the numbers it doesn't mean there is anything funny about them. Since when have homicide rates not been a significant crime measure?
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Re: Homicide stats
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May 30, 2023, 1:06 PM
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Sure, but when you live by the "crime is bad in big cities
May 30, 2023, 1:54 PM
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because of Democrats", how do you excuse the same kind of poor/black/gang violence in Republican-led southern states? If your standard is "it doesn't affect me", that's true of both locales.
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Re: Sure, but when you live by the "crime is bad in big cities
May 30, 2023, 1:56 PM
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ITT, T3 learns about the statistical concept of "per capita"***
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Re: ITT, T3 learns about the statistical concept of "per capita"***
May 30, 2023, 2:00 PM
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Re: ITT, T3 learns about the statistical concept of
May 30, 2023, 2:13 PM
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Re: Homicide stats
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May 30, 2023, 2:46 PM
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Sorry, but the OP is correct: SC is far, far more dangerous for violent crime than those cities per capita. Sure, they have more total crimes, but it's already been pointed out that they're larger populations.
SC is not a safe state. Not even close. Now, you and I aren't feeling that because we live in places where that doesn't apply. But if I chose to relocate to a North Charleston hood off of Rivers Avenue, I'm going to feel it.
I don't know why y'all keep discussing race with the very obvious insinuation that black people are more violent. Crime has more to do with poverty, and in the South, that goes very hand in hand with African Americans. Poor white folks can be just as criminal when desperate.
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Re: Homicide stats
May 30, 2023, 2:53 PM
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Well, then I gotta ask the question I've asked before
May 30, 2023, 3:58 PM
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WHY do you think black people commit more violent crime?
That still doesn't really change the point of the OP: SC is more dangerous than those areas.
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Re: Well, then I gotta ask the question I've asked before
May 30, 2023, 4:01 PM
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Re: Homicide stats
May 31, 2023, 6:13 PM
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Ah. So you are telling me that I need a firearm! Got it!
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You are safer in New York or California...
May 30, 2023, 12:56 PM
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Than you are in South Carolina.
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dats dem liberal maths you figuring
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May 30, 2023, 12:58 PM
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same folks think covid was fake and vaccines have Microsoft chips
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Re: dats dem liberal maths you figuring
May 30, 2023, 1:00 PM
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Conservatives think that Math is a liberal construct!
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Re: dats dem liberal maths you figuring
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Re: dats dem liberal maths you figuring
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May 30, 2023, 1:19 PM
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Come on, your "I'm safer in a place with double the homicide rate" is not something they taught you in AP Maths! You don't like the numbers, so you pretend they aren't real. Think about it.
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Re: dats dem liberal maths you figuring
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Re: dats dem liberal maths you figuring
May 31, 2023, 12:47 AM
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This isn't about arrests, it is about homicide rates.
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Re: Homicide stats
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May 30, 2023, 1:07 PM
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Clemsonfan1851®
Why don't you comment instead TD'ing a link to homicide statistics? Are you saying they are wrong? Or that you don't want to know about them?
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he's channeling his inner
May 30, 2023, 1:10 PM
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Juan McCain
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Re: Homicide stats
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May 30, 2023, 1:51 PM
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Sorry. I think I td the wrong post
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Re: Homicide stats
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May 30, 2023, 1:56 PM
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I will say, dig deeper into individual counties.
I think we who are from SC for example all know of neighborhoods to stay out of, and they aren't usually red neighborhoods. But, although I'm liberal, I'll be racist for pointing out that FACT.
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Re: Homicide stats
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Ride-a-long with 'Leon' ? I use to give Leon a ride to work.***
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May 30, 2023, 2:48 PM
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Re: Homicide stats
May 30, 2023, 2:44 PM
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One could say the same thing about the big cities some people are skeered of, too.
I think the State data does show some interesting regional trends.
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Re: Homicide stats
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Re: Homicide stats
May 30, 2023, 2:58 PM
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Are you saying that correlation equals causation?
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Re: Homicide stats
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Re: Homicide stats
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May 30, 2023, 3:16 PM
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Poverty imo. But, that's another can of worms.
I'll also add that in my experience, poverty is often self inflicted although my side of the aisle doesn't usually want to acknowledge that equation.
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Of course. Seems most homicides happen within a few blocks in most cities.
I'm originally from podunk Dillon County, SC and have done the math multiple times in the past. Take out about 4 blocks of Dillon and the murder rate for the county drops by more than half. Literally.
And it's been the same in all towns/cities I've lived in. The safest area I've lived in by far is where I'm at now, in very red Tennessee.
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Re: Homicide stats
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It's hilarious watching people cherry pick stats to make it sound like it's all those vile white MAGAs committing most of the crime in this country. The entire criminal justice system says differently of course, but don't let the fact that prisons nationwide are full of Democrats get in the way of a good troll.
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Re: Homicide stats
May 30, 2023, 2:45 PM
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How is comparing homicide rates in each of the fifty states "cherrypicking stats?"
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Re: Homicide stats
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Re: Homicide stats
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I cant answer for the above poster, but in my mind, it doesn't tell the entire story. The state data is used to scream hey look at those red states.
But, when you actually start digging into the numbers, it often isn't red areas where the murder rate is the highest.
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Yeah, because the big cities refused to report their data***
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Re: Yeah, because the big cities refused to report their data***
May 30, 2023, 2:43 PM
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Cities are in the State data. No need to lie about that just because you don't like the numbers.
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Or are they?
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Re: Or are they?
May 31, 2023, 12:45 AM
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This FBI data is completely different from the CDC homicide data.
I'm sorry that the facts contradict your world view.
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Re: Homicide stats
May 30, 2023, 2:22 PM
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Ok , you convinced us. Screw the 2nd. We will go ahead and give you our guns.
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Re: Homicide stats
May 30, 2023, 2:43 PM
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Are you so easily triggered by homicide data?
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Re: Homicide stats
May 30, 2023, 3:07 PM
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Nope. I just know what point you’re trying to make.
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Grimm has to keep convincing himself
May 30, 2023, 7:49 PM
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that he is so much better than those he looks down upon.
Troof is he ain't!
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LOL
May 31, 2023, 12:46 AM
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I'm not convincing myself of anything. I'm just posting homicide data and it has triggered a bunch of y'all because it contradicts your world view.
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Re: LOL … just another 50 yrs of Dem programs will fix it
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Late to this OP of your’s.
Do you believe that you accomplished your objective of using per-STATE homicide stats as an obtuse way of defending high homicide rates in Democrat governed CITIES?
“It's fascinating that for all of the Tnutter hysteria about cities, when you look at the national map of homicide rates, the ten states where homicide rates are highest are.”
Does an attempt to confuse others about the base problem (I.e., long standing Democrat party inspired social policies & crime mitigation initiatives) help to make the homicide problem less severe?
Perhaps the effort to try and confuse everyone about why focal regions of violent crime (e.g., selected cities) should be ignored … and attention diverted to large geographical areas in which the vast majority of overall acreage is crime free (e.g., selected states) is worthwhile. Who knows, if the ~ 50+ year Democrat urban programs to improve the urban area living environment are just given another ~ 50 years, then it will all work out.
Is that the plan?
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Re: LOL … just another 50 yrs of Dem programs will fix it
May 31, 2023, 6:41 PM
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The whole deep red deep South is topping the list. Why is that.
If Democratic cities in Democratic states result in lots of homicides, then why are their statewide totals lower.
I've never seen a group of people less willing to face reality than the right-wingers. You don't like something, you deny it exists.
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Re: LOL … just another 50 yrs of Dem programs will fix it
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The whole deep red deep South is topping the list. Why is that.
If Democratic cities in Democratic states result in lots of homicides, then why are their statewide totals lower.
I've never seen a group of people less willing to face reality than the right-wingers. You don't like something, you deny it exists.
Uh, please don’t speak too soon! If you want, I can send you a list of websites that states that list the most violent places to live in America. News flash, on several pages South Carolina don’t crack the top 25 ( or several of the red states for that matter). Keep in mind that one doesn’t have to be killed for the crime to be classified as violent. To set there and say that New York or California is safer is just plain idiotic,
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Re: Are you stupid?
May 31, 2023, 7:42 PM
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Clearly you are the king of playing dumbazz, because you think that anecdotes define broader statistics. Point out a handful a situations that fit your world view instead of looking at the numbers in total. The only homicides you seem to care about are the ones committed on Democrats watches. Why not have the guts to care about all of them?
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Re: Are you stupid?
May 31, 2023, 10:46 PM
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So you are too chicken sh!t to address why homicide rates are higher in Redneckistan than in much of the nation?
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Re: Are you stupid?
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Are you going to address why the majority of the homicides aren’t committed in redneckville. Take Myrtle beach for example ( rated among the highest homicide rates in SC). How many of those people do you think actually are a resident of Horry county?
Again, I’ll address the red state homicide issue when you are willing to address/ admit that most of these homicides aren’t being committed by red voters. We can compare that if you want!
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