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MauldinT's trip up north - a memoir of melancholy
Jul 27, 2018, 1:44 PM
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So, a couple of my kids compete in track and field. They both won the state USATF Junior Olympic state championship and qualified at a regional meet. So, off we headed, up north, to the USATF National Junior Olympic championships in Greensboro, NC.
This ain't bragbook, so not running my mouth about how great my offspring are (but I could.)
Few things:
1. BBQ - I am not sure who lied to the citizens of this yankee state, but whatever you serve as BBQ, is most definitely not BBQ
2. Sheetz - by far the best part of being in a yankee state is stopping at Sheetz. A lot like QT, but seems to be better manned and larger selection of food.
3. Gas seems to be about $0.30 higher per gallon. Is the gas tax higher ? If so, more proof that citizens in these near-socialized states should revolt against their leaders.
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#3 - Yes. IIRC, SC has one of the lowest gas taxes in the
Jul 27, 2018, 1:45 PM
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nation, and terrible infrastructure partially due to that.
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I'm still not convinced that's the case
Jul 27, 2018, 1:49 PM
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I think you could raise the gas tax to $5.00 per gallon and you'd see little to no improvement in our infrastructure.
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Dat gateway project doh!***
Jul 27, 2018, 1:50 PM
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That is project #1, then one in Charleston, and one
Jul 27, 2018, 1:55 PM
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in Columbia.
IIRC, each one is bigger than the previous and the biggest project SC has ever undertaken. There WILL be hiccups and there WILL be cost escalations.
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526 completion to Johns Island?
Jul 27, 2018, 1:56 PM
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Did someone finally find a reason to go out there?
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tremendous waste of money***
Jul 27, 2018, 2:00 PM
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They said its #1
Jul 27, 2018, 2:11 PM
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"the Carolina Crossroads I-20/26/126 Corridor Project is the number one interstate priority for South Carolina."
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Timeline wise, I think it is the Third to let. Largest in
Jul 27, 2018, 2:34 PM
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scale though, size and value.
I am shooting from the hip here though, might have gotten some information mixed up.
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I was at an SCDOT meeting a couple months ago and big
Jul 27, 2018, 1:50 PM
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changes are afoot BUT it will take a while. There are 2-3 big interstate projects in the next 10 years and ALOT of repaving and bridge work that will be happening. That being said, it is the SCDOT, so the long timeline can be thrown out the window from the start, it will take longer.
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Re: I was at an SCDOT meeting a couple months ago and big
Jul 27, 2018, 1:52 PM
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God, I hope they do something about 95. Kinda embarrassing
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I-95 is nothing but a cocaine highway from Miami to New York
Jul 27, 2018, 1:55 PM
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and that is all it will ever be.
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Honestly, SC should make I-95 a toll road
Jul 27, 2018, 2:33 PM
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Think about how many out of staters drive on it everyday.
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I have the utmost faith that they will turn what should be a
Jul 27, 2018, 1:56 PM
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2-3 year project into a multi-decade project. It took them close to three months to get a red light operational that wasn't but like a 1/2 mile down the road from the SCDOT facility. Which in hindsight was a blessing, because that redlight causes massive traffic back ups now.
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They've been working on I-85 from Greenville to
Jul 27, 2018, 1:58 PM
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a little past Anderson since 1985.
In that same time, they built a 4 lane 18 mile toll road from 385 to 85 and have already repaved it twice.
It will never stop.
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Oh, I know...They aren't going to work themselves out of a
Jul 27, 2018, 2:07 PM
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job. There was a pretty big pothole by our house that I watched them fill monthly for almost four years until they finally came through and paved the road. You'd think it would have been cheaper and easier just to strip patch it and be done with it. Keep in mind, this was about 3 miles from the actual SCDOT dispatch facility or whatever you call it.
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I noticed today that two roads in Mt P have been repaved
Jul 27, 2018, 2:12 PM
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The one in front of the new town hall, and the one going to Shem Creek boat landing.
Its interesting what order they picked and which one was completed first.
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Re: Tha Shem Creek
Jul 27, 2018, 2:56 PM
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Access was in pieces two weeks ago and what wasn't had trucks and trailers parked up and down the road. First time I ever launched there. Limited space means limited farkups. I would go to Remley's just to watch the craziness. They could probably do a reality show from boat landings.
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Yeah it was a real mess
Jul 27, 2018, 3:32 PM
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I drove the golf cart down on July 4th..NOONE was there. Maybe they were scared of being on Qualified Captian
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^^^ exactly***
Jul 28, 2018, 8:47 AM
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Sad thing is.....with our gas tax eventually equaling NC and
Jul 27, 2018, 2:29 PM
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GA, that means that in 20+ years we will get our existing roads up to the level of NC and GA roads now. 20 years underfunded and then you get the same funding as the neighboring states. Point is our roads will always suck to the tune of 20 years of no gas tax increases over our neighbors.
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THIS is the ultimate problem. We cannot play catch-up
Jul 27, 2018, 2:38 PM
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especially with the tax base here in SC. Infrastructure in the state, whether talking roads, trails, waterlines, sewer lines, power transmission, etc is all in need of ALOT of attention. To some extent, that is what I do for my job. We will be behind forever though.
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And Lexington County has some of the worst roads in SC
Jul 27, 2018, 3:14 PM
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And SC has some of the worst roads in the country. So Lexington proposed a penny tax, just like Columbia did. FWIW - Columbia's penny tax has been shut down till further notice because of mismanagement of the money. ANYWAY, Lexington came up with a list of road and transportation infrastructure improvements to be paid for with the penny tax. I thought it was great.
THEN, the list started changing. Soon you had park funding, bike paths, library funding, water and sewer funding, etc. And the one ROAD project that would have helped ME THE MOST, was cancelled as that other stuff went into the plans for the $$$. End of the day it didn't pass. I PROMISE you it would have passed IF they kept the list of projects LIMITED to road and transportation projects.
But these penny tax initiatives are going to be more common to pay for the catch-up spending that is needed.
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We have a local program called Pennies for Progress which
Jul 27, 2018, 3:19 PM
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is behind, but has been a very successful program (IMO). I think the Columbia or Lexington program was modeled after that one. It is tough to manage those though.
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I used to live in southern Lexington County
Jul 28, 2018, 8:52 AM
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there are more DIRT ROADS in that county than any place I ever lived.
I even lived on one (obviously by choice, as I enjoy the rural lifestyle) but dang there were a bunch of them. Some that are 10 miles long or longer. Made owning a Jeep lots of fun.
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Coming from somebody who knows little to nothing about
Jul 27, 2018, 2:10 PM
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roadway projects, I am going to choose to believe your opinion even though it is not based in a single ounce of fact.
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I live the roadway projects, you sit in an office and talk
Jul 27, 2018, 2:15 PM
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about them. It's like being an engineering professor vs an actual engineer. Your designs seemingly never hold up in reality.
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There is a Coleman blvd project in Mt P going on that is
Jul 27, 2018, 2:18 PM
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supposed to last 3 years. They are almost a year into it. Roads are fscked.
Anyway..I like looking at the brand new 2500 Denalis the foreman drive and park beside the cones. They all get different color trucks, but they are all Denali Duramax's.
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I'm sure it'll end up being a 6-7 year project
Jul 27, 2018, 2:24 PM
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In Greenville, they seem to be maximizing billable hours by doing everything but the things that would have an immediate positive impact on traffic congestion. I think they've rerouted and lane shifted everything into oblivion in an attempt to drag this project out for as long as possible.
Adding two lanes to both the north and south bound of 85 north of Woodruff Rd. would have done wonders, and they had the equipment out there to do it....but nope, we'll just let everyone pile up trying to get on to 385 and Woodruff and add the lane shifts as a final fugg you hope you die.
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All I can say is that driving all over NC, SC, and GA
Jul 27, 2018, 2:27 PM
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NC and GA have higher gas taxes. NC and Georgia have MUCH better roads.
You will notice the difference if you spend any time driving in NC or GA and then back to SC.
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I do, and agree...but they actually plan ahead too and
Jul 27, 2018, 2:37 PM
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Attempt to get things done in a timely manner. I don’t see that in SC. Georgia has nice 6 lane highways going through basically the middle of nowhere, but they’re ready for future traffic flow.
If I thought an increase in the gas tax would actually go toward the roads, I’d be all for it. I don’t think that though.
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It will go there, it has to, but there is some mismanagement
Jul 27, 2018, 2:40 PM
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and, like Tiggity® said, we are so behind our neighbors, we CANNOT catch up. 20 years of LOW gas tax put us way behind everyone else.
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See my post about Lexington. It won't, unless we hold their
Jul 27, 2018, 3:16 PM
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feet to the fire. Penny sales taxes for municipalities and counties can help add to the total funding, again IF that money is actually spent on roads.
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It is a known fact that Civil Engineers in the state of SC
Jul 27, 2018, 2:41 PM
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suck more donkeydick than any other state in the Union, excluding Delaware.
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Well a lot of them went to El Cid
Jul 27, 2018, 2:51 PM
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so...yeah
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Did u get to use women’s restrooms???
Jul 27, 2018, 1:50 PM
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And if so, where are the ninja pics?
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Horneytown is right down the road, don't tell me you missed
Jul 27, 2018, 1:50 PM
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out on that??
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I haven't been to Horneytown since
Jul 27, 2018, 1:52 PM
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the LBOD ban.
I lied
I visited while watching the husband shoot Nerf darts at the MILF
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she does have a nice looking ###.
Jul 27, 2018, 1:57 PM
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Bet it’s super tight too.
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Re: MauldinT's trip up north - a memoir of melancholy
Jul 27, 2018, 1:52 PM
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How was the Mellow Mushroom?***
Jul 27, 2018, 2:14 PM
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Amen re: Sheetz. My favorite.***
Jul 27, 2018, 3:02 PM
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Is it true what they say up there?
Jul 28, 2018, 9:49 AM
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Cousins don't date?
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And again, HARRRRUMPH!
Jul 28, 2018, 3:30 PM
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But, you’re right about that abomination they call bobbacue.
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