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Orange Blooded [3244]
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Clemson Baseball
Apr 11, 2021, 4:01 PM
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Clemson baseball is officially dead. I don’t know if it’s the limited scholarships, recruiting difficulties, or what, but this program is an unrecognizable shell of what it used to be. Players aren’t exciting, our brand of baseball is terribly boring to watch. Throw in the fact that the season is more than half over and we continue to lack the ability to play fundamental baseball. It’s mistake after mistake after mistake...and they transcend every part of our game...pitching, hitting, fielding, base running, and most importantly - coaching.
If this year we’re an anomaly from our normal play, then I would excuse it as such. But we watch these same mistakes year after year now. This is where our program has gotten to...average players playing below average baseball with coaches who obviously don’t stress fundamentals.
I never thought I would say this...but I miss Jack.
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Orange Blooded [4467]
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Re: Clemson Baseball
Apr 11, 2021, 4:07 PM
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I can’t disprove any of this. Sigh.
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CU Medallion [56764]
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Re: Clemson Baseball
Apr 11, 2021, 4:24 PM
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I don’t miss Jack. I do miss Wilhelm.
Jack was an arrogant a## that wouldn’t retire when he should have. So he forced this result. This is all on Jack.
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Re: Clemson Baseball
Apr 11, 2021, 4:24 PM
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you realize coach wilhelm is dead and jack aint coming back huh
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Re: Clemson Baseball
Apr 11, 2021, 4:27 PM
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Siiiiiiiiiiiigh. You ever miss dead people, chump?
Ima guessing you won’t be missed.
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All-In [30766]
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I think his point was.. this is reality..
Apr 12, 2021, 7:29 AM
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Missing some 1 won't change anything.
Legit won't come back..
so now what does clemson do?
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CU Medallion [61530]
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Hmmm .... I don't think he was asking for JL to come back.
Apr 11, 2021, 4:32 PM
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Perhaps read the post before responding.
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Jack learned his Omaha choking from Wilhelm***
Apr 11, 2021, 4:25 PM
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Re: Clemson Baseball
Apr 11, 2021, 9:38 PM
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It's not rocket science. One can debate the whys and hows as the original post pointed out. We can point fingers at certain coaches but Wilhelm did one thing right. Mike Martin FSU did one thing right. Recruiting. Plain and simple. Who is responsible, coaches and their assistants. It's the same for any sport you choose.
Below article for 2020 is a consistent snapshot of the last two decades. You can point to one offs like coastal carolina and make arguments. But it's really simple. Recruiting. Clemson has steadily declined the last 20 years.
http://baseballnews.com/miami-lands-top-ranked-recruiting-class/
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Re: Clemson Baseball
Apr 11, 2021, 4:15 PM
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Unfortunately you’re correct. Wilhelm has to be rolling over in his grave.
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Re: Clemson Baseball
Apr 11, 2021, 4:17 PM
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This is probable the most difficult sport to recruit.
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Re: Clemson Baseball
Apr 11, 2021, 4:18 PM
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Wilhelm did it with no playroom
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Re: Clemson Baseball
Apr 11, 2021, 4:25 PM
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How many years ago
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Re: Clemson Baseball
Apr 11, 2021, 4:18 PM
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Your assessment is exactly how I see it. There are a few bright spots, Grice at bat, Teodosio in centerfield but the program overall is in a measurable decline.
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Hall of Famer [24874]
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When you hear people acting excited about an RPI in the 30s and simply being in a regional
Apr 11, 2021, 4:20 PM
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You know things have gone downhill
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CU Medallion [51528]
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It died in the summer of 2001 when we just had to win one game***
Apr 11, 2021, 4:35 PM
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nm
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Re: It died in the summer of 2001 when we just had to win one game***
Apr 11, 2021, 7:36 PM
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I often think about this.
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It’s the worst loss to UofSuCk in any sport.***
Apr 11, 2021, 11:13 PM
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Re: Clemson Baseball
Apr 11, 2021, 4:36 PM
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Just another yawn fest at the Doug. Here are other top programs and rowdy crowds and yet we could be but just aren’t. It’s like littlejohn it’s cozy and something to do until football.
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110%er [5931]
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and how is that on the team itself?
Apr 11, 2021, 9:18 PM
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seems to me that it is all on the fans. I constantly hear people talk about how great Clemson baseball should be, yet even in a normal year the stands are half full, and you rarely hear a peep on the board about baseball. I can count about 5 posters who even acknowledge that a game is being played. And don't give me the whole "if the product was better we would show up" argument. even when we were average in football the stands were packed and the board was buzzing. We have won 3 out of the last 4 ACC series and NO ONE! was mentioning baseball on the boards. but here yall come now......
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Re: and how is that on the team itself?
Apr 11, 2021, 9:41 PM
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How many teams had winning records when we beat them? Monte is running up his win totals against the dumpster teams. Then he faces good teams or teams with superior coaching and we lose. Difference between football and baseball is that we have beat great teams when it mattered. No where near the same. Monte needs to go. We need a completely clean slate with no hold overs!! Everybody goes!!
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Hall of Famer [24874]
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This is somewhat true
Apr 11, 2021, 9:54 PM
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If you ever venture onto SEC forums there is a lot of baseball talk. It’s very serious on LSU’s forum in particular
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We used to have a ton of baseball talk when we made
Apr 11, 2021, 10:42 PM
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Super regionals every year
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Re: Clemson Baseball
Apr 11, 2021, 7:48 PM
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fundamentals in fielding like keep the ball in front of you, drives me nuts
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Re: Clemson Baseball
Apr 12, 2021, 7:33 AM
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Also many people are mad way doing tickets. I know many fans who go and can’t. I got lucky and got tickets this year. Clemson baseball is becoming basketball. Monte lee is becoming Bowden.
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