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Hood: Saban's whining might change the HUNH


  by - Senior Writer - Thursday, February 13, 2014 8:04 PM
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The big, bad boys of the SEC are running scared, but proposed rule changes in college football that would limit the “hurry” part of the HUNH might calm those fears a bit.

Also, I wonder what Clemson offensive coordinator Chad MorrisChad Morris
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Let me get you up to date – I know a lot of people have been snowed in this week and might look for a little college football talk.

The NCAA football rules committee is proposing changes for the 2014 season that would loosen the reins on defensive substitutions. The committee's proposal would allow defensive players to substitute within the first 10 seconds of the 40-second play clock, except for the final two minutes of each half.

Offenses that snap the ball before 29 seconds remain on the play clock would receive a 5-yard delay-of-game penalty. Current rules state that defensive players aren't guaranteed the opportunity to substitute unless the offense first substitutes. Under the proposal, this policy would remain when the play clock starts at 25 seconds.

It’s no surprise that two coaches who have been vocal about slowing down college football offenses are from the SEC – Alabama’s Nick Saban and Arkansas’ Bret Bielema. Both of those coaches said last summer that up-tempo offenses are likelier to cause injuries for defensive players who can't get off of the field in time.

Both of those coaches spoke to the committee before the recommendation was made.

Forgive me if I’m wrong, and maybe I am. But I’ve been watching the HUNH offense at Clemson for the past three seasons, and the only injuries I have seen are fake ones. Being fat and out of shape and sucking air late in a game isn’t an injury. Laying down on the field because you want to slow down the other team’s offense isn’t an injury.

Bob Stitt, who is the head coach at the Colorado School of Mines, showed how he feels about the proposal on Twitter Thursday.


Football has always been about change, and offensive minds have always been trying to figure out ways to beat the defense, and defensive minds have always found ways to slow down the offenses. We’ve seen the Wing-T, the option, the spread option, the spread and the Fun-n-Gun. It’s what coaches do. And the best defensive minds have always figured out ways to stop those offenses, which run in cycles.

The latest trend has been the HUNH – which stands for the Hurry Up No Huddle – as offensive coaches endeavor to get the ball snapped before the defense is set. Much like the spread, it helps offenses with lesser talent beat more talented defenses. And, if we give it enough time, some bright minded defensive coach will figure out how to stop it.

Until now. The defensive coaches are asking for help, and the NCAA is rushing to their rescue.

These new developments take me back to a conversation I had at the Orange Bowl with a former member of the staff at Alabama. We were discussing the Crimson Tide defense and their woeful attempts at stopping Oklahoma in the Sugar Bowl, and he laughed and said that is why Saban has been trying to get the rules changed.

He told me to go back and look at Bama’s schedule, and find the three teams with an actual pulse on offense. I grabbed my smartphone, and told him I found four – Texas A&M, LSU, Auburn and Oklahoma. He then asked me which three run some version of the spread and HUNH, and I came up with Texas A&M, Auburn and Oklahoma. He then smiled and said the results speak for themselves.

Alabama didn't fare well defensively against those three teams, giving up 121 total points and an average of 483 yards per game. In Alabama’s 10 other games – against offensive juggernauts like Colorado St., Georgia St., Chattanooga, Kentucky, Virginia Tech and Arkansas – the Tide gave up a total of 60 points, for an average of six points per game.

No wonder Nick wants the change and shame on the NCAA if they help him get his wish.

However, there is good news. The rule still has to be approved by the NCAA Playing Rules Oversight Panel before it can take effect next season.

Here are the members:

Larry Scott, Pac-12 Commissioner
Jon Steinbrecher , MAC Commissioner
Shelley Appelbaum, senior women's administrator, Michigan State.
Derita Ratcliffe, senior women's administrator, UAB.
Jeff Hurd, commissioner, WAC.
Noreen Morris, commissioner, Northeast Conference.
Lisa Sweany, AD, Armstrong Atlantic State University.
Kristy Bayer, senior women's administrator, Arkansas Tech.
Doug Zipp, AD, Shenandoah University.
Lynn Oberbillig, AD, Smith College.
Sue Lauder, AD, Fitchburg State University

Scott and Steinbrecher might be sympathetic to the cause of the HUNH, but those others? Change could indeed be coming, and it will be interesting to see how Morris feels about the possible change. We will get to talk to him in a few weeks when the Tigers start spring practice.

I guess you could say that Saban is merely doing his due diligence, and that he is finding a way to stop the up-tempo offense. Maybe kudos should go his way for finding a way to stop them. However, instead of film work and recruiting the kind of faster, leaner defenders that are built to stop these kinds of offenses (and it can be done), he is letting the NCAA do his work for him.


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New Story: Hood: Saban's whining might change the HUNH
TigerNet News®
Saban the cry baby.***
icebucket
Re: New Story: Hood: Saban's whining might change the HUNH
Clemson_Greene2
what's up with that list of committee members? Are they
ragtop
Saban is bully. It is not enough to have the most powerful
tpaw79
My guess is that most HUNH teams do not snap the ball
civil engr®
Re: My guess is that most HUNH teams do not snap the ball
BlueHose
Snapping the ball after 10 seconds.....
TigerAidan
Agreed on both points
Classof09
Re: Agreed on both points
Brad W®
Read it again guys
mewilli
That's true, but the D will be able to substitute much more
joeyb®
Alabama beat TAMU this season 49 - 42***
Cheeseburger
Re: Alabama beat TAMU this season 49 - 42***
lhaselden
They won but their defense gave up 42 points...
tigerking79®
Re: New Story: Hood: Saban's whining might change the HUNH
lhaselden
Pardon my lack of PC, but why the Aitch does
clover65®
stopping it
shane0613
Excellent points.***
Shane_Morgan
Re: New Story: Hood: Saban's whining might change the HUNH
lhaselden
Re: New Story: Hood: Saban's whining might change the HUNH
allorangeallthetime52®
To me, it is less about the pace for Saban...
supertiger
He is free to substitute any time he wants. He just needs
tigerpride98
You're technically correct
Classof09
Re: You're technically correct
Brad W®
So what is the maximum amount of time
Classof09
about 5-7 seconds if players hustle.
tigerpride98
From Hurry Up No Huddle to Huddle Up No Hurry!***
Generation4
I'm not sure anything will come of this to be honest
CU_Kobe_24®
Delay of Game?
joeyrog1
Re: Delay of Game?
BentZero
This is about substitution not hurry up
BentZero
There might be more injuries, but i seriously doubt there's
TigersAndCubs
Re: New Story: Hood: Saban's whining might change the HUNH
Mortimer
Seattle has a HUNH defense..
sinastax
it's absurd that we even have to hear about sh!t like this!
jbthe1tiger99®
I understand David,
ClemsonTiger1988®
Re: New Story: Hood: Saban's whining might change the HUNH
I bleed orange
Re: New Story: Hood: Saban's whining might change the HUNH
fuzzyduck
Re: New Story: Hood: Saban's whining might change the HUNH
agtiger69
"Sucking air isn't an injury"
Classof09
have many d-1 football players do you estimate have asthma ?
sgt tiger®
Re: "Sucking air isn't an injury"
clemtiger117®
GEDof09, you know exactly what David Hood meant by that...
tigerking79®
GEDof09 time to remove that quote form you signature...
tigerking79®
Tough critic. a 60% improvement is generally a good thing***
Classof09
Re: Tough critic. a 60% improvement is generally a good thing***
clemtiger117®
Did you have a serious facial expression when you typed that
Completely Solid Orange®
Yes
Classof09
Re: Yes
clemtiger117®
A kid dying is a bit more serious
Classof09
Re: A kid dying is a bit more serious
clemtiger117®
So in shape people never get out of breath?
Classof09
Being out of breathe is healthy. You are being silly.***
Completely Solid Orange®
I'm guessing you're not a doctor?***
Classof09
Is your argument that any sport that causes someone to be
CUgrad2011
No
Classof09
Dude, you have stepped off the intellectual cliff here.
Completely Solid Orange®
Yet that happens during practice every day
CUgrad2011
What does this have to do with anything?
Classof09
Haha, NO. It's this thing called "perfectly normal."***
Completely Solid Orange®
It has to do with being consistent
CUgrad2011
Yes a player in a similar circumstance
Classof09
Re: Yes a player in a similar circumstance
clemtiger117®
Just quit replying if you are going to be ridiculous***
Classof09
Just tell us your point. In one post, what are you saying?
Completely Solid Orange®
Re: Just quit replying if you are going to be ridiculous***
clemtiger117®
So should they eliminate being out of breath at practice?
CUgrad2011
Go back and read my posts in this thread
Classof09
What in the crap is the point of that?
Completely Solid Orange®
Re: Go back and read my posts in this thread
clemtiger117®
I haven't addressed the HUNH here
CUgrad2011
What are you arguing?
Classof09
Re: What are you arguing?
clemtiger117®
That if being out of breath, ever, is a serious risk, then
CUgrad2011
Aren't these two separate issues?
Classof09
If you are legitimately concerned, sure. But if that's the
CUgrad2011
And I don't think they're two completely diff. issues
CUgrad2011
Re: Aren't these two separate issues?
clemtiger117®
Re: Yes a player in a similar circumstance
cutiger250®
Re: What does this have to do with anything?
cutiger250®
Re: No
cutiger250®
I'm hoping you are high. Think for a second...
Completely Solid Orange®
I seriously think he's trolling...don't see how anyone can
Tall_Tiger_Two
Re: So in shape people never get out of breath?
clemtiger117®
I hope this isn't a serious response
Classof09
Re: I hope this isn't a serious response
clemtiger117®
I didn't make that argument
Classof09
Re: I didn't make that argument
clemtiger117®
That is a better attempt
Classof09
You could die from literally anything. Moot point.***
Completely Solid Orange®
Re: That is a better attempt
clemtiger117®
Classof09
jester®
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get
cutigerbob®
Football is dangerous. Stop trying to turn it into something
Completely Solid Orange®
If that was the case....
cutiger250®
Re: Yes
jerseytiger1980
How Sweet! Fresh Meat -Signed Chad Morris
Dr. Nikola Tesla
Re: How Sweet! Fresh Meat -Signed Chad Morris
oldschtiger70®
Re: New Story: Hood: Saban's whining might change the HUNH
Dugatiger®
60%
Tigerdug23
Saban is not worried enough about his D's health to
joeyb®
Can They Man Up......I Think Clemson Can Too ----
Xander5000
Saban is a crybaby, but this will have zero effect on any
AllTimeClemson
Re: Saban is a crybaby, but this will have zero effect on any
clemtiger117®
Re: Saban is a crybaby, but this will have zero effect on any
cutiger250®
Re: New Story: Hood: Saban's whining might change the HUNH
tigersfortigers
If it's a seriously injured player, they need to get off the
CUgrad2011
If his gripe is that he doesn't have enough time to make his
tigerpride98
Re: New Story: Hood: Saban's whining might change the HUNH
Foothills Tiger
First thing
etangeman
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TigerDrewz

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