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Edwards: ACC needs more than FSU and Clemson for league to be relevant


  by David Hood - Senior Writer - Thursday, December 5, 2013 9:21 AM
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Clemson and Florida State have been the league's two dominant teams over the last two seasons

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has said for the past three seasons that all the ACC needs to be once again considered a power football conference is to have one or two teams take the next step and be a national title contender.

The ACC has that this season in Florida St., which will more than likely play for the National Championship should it beat Duke this Saturday in the ACC Championship Game.

However, ESPN’s Brad Edwards told a media contingent Wednesday afternoon that it will take more than one or two dominant teams for the ACC to be considered among the nation’s elite.

Edwards, an analyst on College GameDay on ESPN Radio, an ESPN college football researcher and one of the top analysts on everything BCS, spoke about the subject on a BCS conference call Wednesday when he was asked if the ACC has indeed closed the gap on its SEC brethren and even the rest of the BCS conferences.

He said that the league has needed a season like the one Florida St. is having, but that there is a clear difference between Florida St. and Clemson, and then Clemson and the rest of the conference.

“This is something the ACC has needed for a long time, which is to have a team in the National Championship mix in the last month,” Edwards said. “What would really help the ACC out, though, would be for Duke to be competitive (Saturday). The impression that I have – and I can’t speak for everyone nationally – but the impression I get from watching this season is that Florida St. is well above Clemson and that Clemson is well above the rest of the ACC. I would assume that Clemson would easily beat Duke or anyone else that you would put them up against in the conference.”

Swinney told the media last spring at the ACC meetings what he thought the conference needed.

“All I know is I've been in this league 11 years now,” Swinney said. “We have to produce those few dominant teams. If you look at the SEC, they've had a heck of a run, but there have been only a few of those dominant teams. They've had an undefeated team or a 12-1 team. We have not produced that in our conference.

“A lot of time, people want to spin this perception that this is a basketball conference. It's a great league for athletics. Listen, folks. Yeah, we got a bad run for eight years now. But the SEC had a bad run for a while, too. Somebody's gotta get hot.”

That somebody has been Florida St., even though Clemson has spent the majority of the season in the Top 10 in the rankings. However, the conference has just three teams ranked in the Top 25 currently in FSU, Clemson and Duke. Florida St. is a four touchdown favorite over Duke in a game that is considered by many to be the worst of the championship games this weekend, and last season Florida St. played a 6-6 Georgia Tech team in front of thousands of empty seats in Charlotte.

The conference is also a BCS-conference worst 3-13 in BCS bowls, but has 11 teams bowl-eligible after adding Pittsburgh and Syracuse.

Edwards said it would help the perception of the league if it were to produce more than one or two good teams.


“I really don’t see the conference as a whole closing the gap right now as much as I see Florida St. becoming an elite team again,” he said. “Clearly, it would help if Miami were to become an elite team again and if Clemson were to just remain what it is or if Virginia Tech were to get back to what it used to be. All you need is three or four teams that are legitimate Top 25 year after year that nobody questions if they are good. Then you are back to where the ACC wants to be. But as long as you have just one team that is elite and one team in Clemson that is in discussion for the Top 10 or maybe in that range, then I don’t think they are there yet. They are not there yet, but it was definitely a good step as far as the season went.”


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Front Page Story: Edwards: ACC needs more than FSU and Clemson for league to be relevant
TigerNet News®
Legitimate.***
SOLOS®
Re: Uhhh but we have Duke now too
74TIGER
Actually......
bowlhunter
Re: Uhhh but we have Duke now too
lhaselden
The ACC is trending up.
think2x
Agree with all of this outside of Louisville.
Mike1189
Re: Agree with all of this outside of Louisville.
WP85
Per Sagarin SOS, ACC has been historically weak past 3 years
Razzmatazz
Per Razz, wins and losses should be wholly based on
Shane_Morgan
lol...fsu is a game away from
GeeVille Tiger
Replace Big10 for everyone of those arguments, then ####***
OldTiger05
would agree with this...it's fair
Tigerfansince1972®
True - but not that much more. That is what is so very,
Smiling Tiger®
Vandy and Wake are even????
Tigerfansince1972®
Head-to-head, Absolutely. Vandy won this year with a
Smiling Tiger®
obviously that means we aren't even with SC then.....***
Tigerfansince1972®
Of course - I don't see how anybody can claim that we are.
Smiling Tiger®
Vandy went 4-4 in SEC and beat Tennessee***
Xrugger
exactly - THAT is my point. If I understand corectly,
Smiling Tiger®
Re: True - but not that much more. That is what is so very,
Dugatiger®
Re: True - but not that much more. That is what is so very,
lhaselden
Re: True - but not that much more. That is what is so very,
Dugatiger®
Re: True - but not that much more. That is what is so very,
IvegottheCooties
Re: Front Page Story: Edwards: ACC needs more than FSU and Clemson for league to be relevant
allorangeallthetime52®
Good argument. It's reflective of the 'Here and Now' society
SOLOS®
Re: Good argument. It's reflective of the 'Here and Now' society
Dugatiger®
108 yards from irrelevancy just last week. Now... Mizz?***
SOLOS®
Re: 108 yards from irrelevancy just last week. Now... Mizz?***
IvegottheCooties
Re: 108 yards from irrelevancy just last week. Now... Mizz?***
Neutron
Re: Good argument. It's reflective of the 'Here and Now' society
allorangeallthetime52®
Re: Front Page Story: Edwards: ACC needs more than FSU and Clemson for league to be relevant
Dugatiger®
Re: Front Page Story: Edwards: ACC needs more than FSU and Clemson for league to be relevant
oldschtiger70®
Two teams are enough to propel one into the National Title.
cutigersJD®
We should have beat SCAR then.***
Completely Solid Orange®
Re: We should have beat SCAR then.***
Dugatiger®
Re: We should have beat SCAR then.***
allorangeallthetime52®
Fsu
Lilnaitch
This year... YES.***
SOLOS®
Re: Front Page Story: Edwards: ACC needs more than FSU and Clemson for league to be relevant
SBCharleston
I am not a fan of the ACC or conferences in general, but...
quadtiger
Very well stated.+1.***
SOLOS®
Re: I am not a fan of the ACC or conferences in general, but...
Dugatiger®
Yeah, but winning the title the last few years has helped
BentZero
When there's a "Wheel of Destiny", something's wrong***
MemphisCat®
Re: I am not a fan of the ACC or conferences in general, but...
allorangeallthetime52®
Wrong! Look at SEC's record in bowls & vs noncon big boys.***
Razzmatazz
Big East has a better bowl record and MWC nipping on their
Shane_Morgan
Re: Big East has a better bowl record and MWC nipping on their
IBeWriteGood®
I certainly wouldn't say top to bottom they're one of the
Shane_Morgan
Re: I certainly wouldn't say top to bottom they're one of the
IBeWriteGood®
And SEC needs more than Bama and Auburn to be relevant***
cupton®
Re: And SEC needs more than Bama and Auburn to be relevant***
Dugatiger®
They have 7 of the top 25.***
Mike1189
That's what happens when you rise from wins over the likes
SOLOS®
Re: That's what happens when you rise from wins over the likes
Dugatiger®
Re: And SEC needs more than Bama and Auburn to be relevant***
allorangeallthetime52®
NO doubt the ACC closed some distance on the SEC this year
AllTimeClemson
Re: NO doubt the ACC closed some distance on the SEC this year
allorangeallthetime52®
ACC is historically weak. SEC had an injury-plagued down yr.
Razzmatazz
Yeah, and Sagarin is the guy who won't expose his formula.
Shane_Morgan
Re: Front Page Story: Edwards: ACC needs more than FSU and Clemson for league to be relevant
deleted
Their nerves are all to helll because they don't have...
ClemsonTiger1988®
Actually it's been Bama that has made the SEShe so relevant
WolfMan2
Doesn't seem to hurt the Big 12/Pac 12
IPTAY FAMILY
There didn't seem to be that much disparity between leagues
TigerPruitt
And this folks is why you should care about ACC OOC results
BentZero
Clemson beat LSU and Louisville beat Florida
quadtiger
I'm done with ESPN's definition of "relevant".
Wookie
Re: I'm done with ESPN's definition of "relevant".
deleted
How so? I didn't say we won. ******
Wookie
Re: I'm done with ESPN's definition of "relevant".
deleted
It's a question of competitiveness. Do you not understand?
Wookie
Re: I'm done with ESPN's definition of "relevant".
Skeeter3
Re: I'm done with ESPN's definition of "relevant".
deleted
How can the ACC improve when the SEC gets all the perks that
IRONCAT68
Re: How can the ACC improve when the SEC gets all the perks that
oldschtiger70®
Clearly
MackDaddy®
It bothers me and should bother you that Edwards and others
AThomas®
So says the Bama journalism grad who works for ESPN.
RogerS®
Rogers I agree with you
jmj212
Re: Rogers I agree with you
Skeeter3
It's always a convoluted argument except for 'Bama...
RogerS®
If they had put them in opposing divisions we'd have one***
Tickled Orange®
Re: Front Page Story: Edwards: ACC needs more than FSU and Clemson for league to be relevant
CUalum79ALLn65®
Miami is getting there, they have had top 10
Bryanttiger®
Notre Dame and Miami will be in the top 15 next year too.
Buffalo Creek Tiger

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