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Why did Tommy Bowden never get another job ?
Jul 26, 2017, 12:46 PM
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Tommy West got on with Memphis
Ken Hatfield got on with Rice
Didn't he interview with someone while at Clemson ? I can't remember the school.
He should have drawn some interest from some school. Isn't his all-time record above 0.500 ?
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To be honest I don't think he enjoyed being a head coach and
Jul 26, 2017, 12:49 PM
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He didn't need the money.
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Re: To be honest I don't think he enjoyed being a head coach and
Jul 26, 2017, 7:58 PM
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Any one interested in a good coach looked at his record the last couple years at Clemson and ran away as fast as possible. They also looked at him watching us get beat by a very inferior team the last game he coached.Dear in headlights look
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Re: Why did Tommy Bowden never get another job ?
Jul 26, 2017, 12:51 PM
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I think part of it is his get up and go got up and left. After a few years he started having more and more opportunities to travel speaking and doing ministry. That took precedence for him over time.
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Re: Why did Tommy Bowden never get another job ?
Jul 26, 2017, 12:54 PM
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Clemson was paying him to stay at home.
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Tommy was a good recruiter and he got the ball rolling
Jul 26, 2017, 12:54 PM
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on facility improvements.
Unfortunately, his coaching style is what led to the invention of the word "Clemsoning" By the time he was done here, everyone could see that.
He did interview with Arkansas - after the 2007 season I think. They didn't offer him a job but he played the situation well enough to get a pretty good raise and a much larger buyout from our AD. I wanted them to call his bluff at the time but, in hindsight, we're probably better off with things playing out the way they did.
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Re: Why did Tommy Bowden never get another job ?
Jul 26, 2017, 12:57 PM
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Because he was clueless on what needed to be done. Arky dodged a bullet. Well, at least that particular one. Lol
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Re: Why did Tommy Bowden never get another job ?
Jul 26, 2017, 4:18 PM
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To whoever TDed me.
He was lost after RR, beyond hiring Dabo as a WR coach and the facility upgrades.
Show me otherwise.
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None of those other guys called Nick Saban after an
Jul 26, 2017, 12:59 PM
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a$$whippin' and asked him what he saw?
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Re: Why did Tommy Bowden never get another job ?
Jul 26, 2017, 1:01 PM
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He did get another job.... the ACC network.
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Because the other two were real coaches who worked to get
Jul 26, 2017, 1:01 PM
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where they were and Tommy just lived off his name?
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Re: Because the other two were real coaches who worked to get
Jul 26, 2017, 1:28 PM
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I guess Rodriguez didn't want to leave his job to help TB get another one!
Most other schools wouldn't put up with his arrogance. I wouldn't play one down if he was the coach.
Best decision ever made at Clemson. Glad Dabo was ready and able.
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Crickets
Jul 26, 2017, 9:59 PM
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Guess the coward will td me, too
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Wasn't good enough to get another P5 job and he probably
Jul 26, 2017, 1:31 PM
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didn't want to coach a G5 program when he was already getting paid much more than that by clemson.
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Because he was a really bad coach***
Jul 26, 2017, 1:36 PM
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No, he was not a "really bad coach" ...
Jul 26, 2017, 1:48 PM
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he rarely lost to SCar. He lost some games he should have won, but he won some major games (#3 FSU in 2003 plus beat #7 UTenn in the Peach Bowl). He also gave us 63-17.
But, he was asked to resign (fired) for the inexcusable lost to WFU and not being able to get us into ACC Championship game.
No, he was NOT "a really bad coach."
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Yeah, he was.***
Jul 26, 2017, 1:49 PM
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That was very insightful ... you've convinced me.
Jul 26, 2017, 2:31 PM
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SMH
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He wasn't a really bad coach overall, but he was a really
Jul 26, 2017, 2:24 PM
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bad game coach and a below average coach overall. That shouldn't cut it at a football school capable of finding someone better.
It's not like it was 1 inexcusable loss to Wake Forest. He also got blown out at Wake Forest in 2003, lost to a 2-9 Duke team in 2004, blew the division title at home against a really mediocre Maryland team in 2006, etc.
Not to mention the horrible blow out losses we suffered during his tenure. 54-7 at FSU in 2000 with one of his best Clemson teams, the 38-3 UNC debacle in 01, the embarrassing 38-6 loss to NC State on a TH night in 2002, the 55-15 Texas Tech humiliation later that year, the 30-0 laugher against UGA to open 2003, the aforementioned 45-17 debacle at Wake Forest, the 1-4 start in 04 that included 3 straight 19+ point losses, the terrible 41-23 performance at home against VT in 07 when Tommy had a good team, and of course the 34-10 blowout against Bama in Atlanta to open his swansong campaign. I'm also omitting 6 other 17+ point losses, but i had to draw the line somewhere or this post would've gone on forever.
And beating SC back then was nice and all but they sucked almost every year he was at Clemson. They had two good teams (00 and 01) and he was "The Catch" away from going 0-2 against those teams. By the time Spurrier turned SC around Bowden was gone. He beat SC teams that went 0-11, 8-4, 5-7, 5-7, 6-5, 7-5, and 6-6.
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Re: He wasn't a really bad coach overall, but he was a really
Jul 26, 2017, 10:04 PM
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BEWM!!!
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He was slightly above average ... we've had "really bad" and
Jul 26, 2017, 2:26 PM
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and Tommy Bowden was *not* really bad. Hootie Ingram was really bad.
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didnt he interview for Syracuse?***
Jul 26, 2017, 1:49 PM
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Prolly, thought that he couldn't get a better job***
Jul 26, 2017, 1:58 PM
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My guess (and that's all it is) is that it isn't in his blood.
Jul 26, 2017, 2:34 PM
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I think Bowden got into the "business" because his whole family was in it. I don't think he "needs" to coach like some of these people do. Maybe he just didn't have it in him to do everything he would need to be successful.
I don't think for a second that he couldn't get another "good" job. He did a TON of good things at Clemson and ran a clean program. He would have been an upgrade for at least half of the schools out there in my opinion.
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I can go with that, too
Jul 26, 2017, 10:07 PM
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+1
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My guess (and that's all it is) is that it isn't in his blood.
Jul 26, 2017, 2:34 PM
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I think Bowden got into the "business" because his whole family was in it. I don't think he "needs" to coach like some of these people do. Maybe he just didn't have it in him to do everything he would need to be successful.
I don't think for a second that he couldn't get another "good" job. He did a TON of good things at Clemson and ran a clean program. He would have been an upgrade for at least half of the schools out there in my opinion.
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Because I gave him a bad reference.***
Jul 26, 2017, 5:02 PM
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Anybody who watched him for the last few years would
Jul 26, 2017, 9:42 PM
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notice that he was not really into coaching.
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Re: Why did Tommy Bowden never get another job ?
Jul 27, 2017, 7:34 AM
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That awful term "######ing" should have been called "Tommy Bowdening." No other school wanted to have their name with "ing" added to the end of it because of his coaching.
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Re: Why did Tommy Bowden never get another job ?
Jul 27, 2017, 7:36 AM
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I hated it when CLEMSON hired him, complained about him the entire time he was here, and celebrated when he was fired. Good riddance IMO. Any team that would like to be in the Top 25 should never consider him as a HC. He could coach at USUC when WM is fired in a few years.
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Tommy is a successful guy, not a successful football coach
Jul 27, 2017, 7:47 AM
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I don't think football was a passion for him, it was just the family business. If the family business would have been in running auto repair shops, he would have been very successful in that.
He "retired" from the family business with enough money to live like he wanted to live, and moved on to a second career.
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