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Orange Blooded [4139]
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the bball excuses just do not ring true..
Feb 25, 2017, 7:45 PM
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facilities and bball tradition are important, but.. schools like Gonzaga, Wichita St., etc seem to do pretty well. With the pitch of ACC hoops and cachet of our traditions and campus, I think we can do better. Granted, going to a "bball school " probably has some advantages, but we are being consistantly whipped by other "football " schools. Just dont see another year for BB being any different
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Orange Blooded [3820]
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Gaonzaga and Wichita State do not play in the ACC
Feb 25, 2017, 11:30 PM
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and while they might do reasonably well if they did,
it's simply not a reasonable comparison.
for starters,
Gregg Marshall at WSU doesn't have near the academic requirements
that Brownell faces here at Clemson,
nor do they have a Football program that is the 800-pound gorilla
in the room when it comes to competing for funds.
you people need to stop....
just effing stop.
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110%er [8008]
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We just spent over $63 million on basketball.
Feb 25, 2017, 11:35 PM
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I don't think competing for funds is the issue.
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Orange Blooded [3820]
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one time deal and we're less than 1 year removed
Feb 25, 2017, 11:43 PM
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how the hail are we going to see an impact that quick??
you people simply aren't logical...
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110%er [8008]
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that hurts coming from you.***
Feb 25, 2017, 11:49 PM
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Orange Blooded [3820]
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when you say "competing for funds Isn't the issue"
Feb 26, 2017, 12:05 AM
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and we've had BBall in the ACC for 60+ years
as no better than our 2nd sport,
well, it's just a foregone conclusion that I'm going to bash a little.
sorry...
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110%er [8008]
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of course football is the number one sport.
Feb 26, 2017, 12:37 AM
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That doesn't automatically mean we can't, or shouldn't expect to be competitive in basketball. It's not like we're spending all of the money on football and none on other sports.
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Orange Blooded [3820]
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there are 250+ D1 programs throwing $$ at BBall programs
Feb 26, 2017, 9:37 AM
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money is not the differentiating factor in terms of results returned.
mostly, Clemson simply has no Brand in Basketball....
plus we are the ACC basketball equivalent of the SEC's Mississippi State in Football -
way too much recruiting competition for too little geography...
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Re: there are 250+ D1 programs throwing $$ at BBall programs
Feb 26, 2017, 9:56 AM
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"...way too much recruiting competition for too little geography... " - whatever you do, do NOT tell Dabo that.
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Orange Blooded [2205]
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Re: there are 250+ D1 programs throwing $$ at BBall programs
Feb 26, 2017, 11:26 AM
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Clemson football and basketball are apples to oranges. Clemson Football is to UNC Basketball as Virginia football is to Clemson Basketball.
Dabo's biggest disadvantage when he got here was being unprepared for a HC job as he was suddenly given the position. That's something he can personally fix with time and preparation. He had advantages in facilities, resources, fan base, tradition, etc.
Brads disadvantage list is nearly everything. We're outmatched in history, dominant conference, 2nd/3rd most important sport, facilities, and recruiting competition.
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Orange Blooded [3820]
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this may be the sanest post I've seen on BBall in years
Feb 26, 2017, 12:35 PM
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kudos to you sir
for looking past your ego to see reality.
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Orange Blooded [3820]
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small college full ride long time ago...
Feb 26, 2017, 9:33 AM
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too white and not quick enough for D1
but recruited early on by UNCheat.
left BBall to finish most of degree at Clemson.
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CU Guru [1020]
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Which appears to be paying substantial dividends this year...***
Feb 26, 2017, 3:14 AM
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Legend [16132]
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snark or not, it was unacceptable in a Conference as strong
Feb 26, 2017, 3:31 PM
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as ours
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Orange Blooded [2205]
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Re: We just spent over $63 million on basketball.
Feb 26, 2017, 10:06 AM
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How long has brad had that upgrade? A few months. Did his most recent class improve in recruiting ranking? Yes.
Apparently upgrading littlejohn was supposed to instantly win games. Not improve recruiting and help build a team up over a few seasons. No we need instant wins!!!
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Re: Gaonzaga and Wichita State do not play in the ACC
Feb 26, 2017, 2:13 AM
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You made allot of valid points and I'll have to agree., which means I've had too much to drink and need to go to bed.
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Orange Blooded [2896]
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No reason we can't be 9-9, 10-8 every year in ACC.***
Feb 26, 2017, 8:40 AM
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