The Facts: Clemson vs. USuC and Player Development (4-5 star

Aug 4, 2015, 2:27 PM

Clemson and USuC 4 and 5 stars vs NFL draft.pdf(29.5 K)

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Read something about coots claims that Clemson is where "stars go to die" so decided to do a little research:

In reviewing the consensus 4-5 stars per 24/7 from the 2008 recruiting cycle through 2011 and not counting players still playing at Clemson/USuC:

50% of Clemson's 4-5 star players were drafted by the NFL
40% of USuC's 4-5 star players were drafted by the NFL

See attached for the summary by year.

If you want to have short term memory like most coots, it doesn't change the numbers. If anything, if 2011 is any indicator, we are only getting better and they are only getting worse.

To keep it simple and fair all players were included in the base whether they transferred, quit, injured or got arrested (USuC). I did not include players that signed as Free Agents - too complicated and the whole point was to see who does a better job getting 4-5 star players drafted.

If you want the details of who I included based on 24/7 recruiting stars:
2008 - Clemson:
Brandon Thomas, A MacClain, A Ellington, D Allen, X Brewer, K Parker, D Freeman - 3 of these drafted
2008 - USuC:
CC Whitlock - none drafted

2009 - Clemson:
Tajh, M Goodman, B McNeil, JK Jay - 2 drafted
2009 - USuC:
S Gilmore, D Holloman, D Jeffrey, J Giles, C Sutton, L Mackey - 3 drafted

2010 - Clemson:
M Bryant, J Watson - 1 drafted
2010 - USuC
M Lattimore, AJ Cann, V Hampton - 2 drafted

2011 - Clemson:
T Steward, S Watkins, S Anthony, C Peake, M Bellamy, C Crawford, L Townsend, E McClain, M Bryant - 4 drafted, 2 still playing
2011 - USuC:
J Clowney, B Shell, K Quarles, P Dukes, S Royster, D Byrd - 1 drafted, 2 still playing

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Thanks - I made all of your corrections except Jerrell Adams was showing in 24/7 as a 3 star. Kelcy Quarles is counted for USuC under 2011 (I believe he had to do a year at somewhere like Hargrave).

Attached are the %s - they're better with the corrections. Following are the details:

2008 - Clemson:
Brandon Thomas, A MacClain, A Ellington, D Allen, X Brewer, K Parker, D Freeman, D Bowers, J Harper - 5 of these drafted
2008 - USuC:
CC Whitlock - none drafted

2009 - Clemson:
Tajh, M Goodman, B McNeil, JK Jay - 2 drafted
2009 - USuC:
S Gilmore, D Holloman, D Jeffrey, J Giles, C Sutton, L Mackey, C Payne - 3 drafted

2010 - Clemson:
M Bryant, J Watson, D Hopkins - 2 drafted
2010 - USuC
M Lattimore, AJ Cann, V Hampton - 2 drafted

Got it right now?

2011 - Clemson:
T Steward, S Watkins, S Anthony, C Peake, M Bellamy, C Crawford, L Townsend, E McClain - 4 drafted, 2 still playing
2011 - USuC:
J Clowney, B Shell, K Quarles, P Dukes, S Royster, D Byrd - 1 drafted, 2 still playing

The Facts: Clemson vs. USuC and Player Development (4-5 star

Correction

Re: The Facts: Clemson vs. USuC and Player Development (4-5 star

You missed DaQuan Bowers and Jamie Harper in 2008

Corrected - see attached

Re: Corrected - see attached

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