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Tucker Hipps family talks about lawsuit
Apr 16, 2015, 8:10 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8Nd68ZWUNA
The parents of Clemson University student who died after an unsupported fall from a bridge talk about seeking the truth from the university. Video by Harrison Cahill
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um...hate it for them..but chill on the broad brush dude..
Apr 16, 2015, 8:27 PM
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you gonna hate Clemson? make your choice. #1U in SC for Education Value and Life. Get it, I'd be doing the same I guess - seeing as my son is a fresh. and in a frat.
But durn -
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my impression
Apr 16, 2015, 8:41 PM
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They are disappointed with Clemson's involvement, or lack, with the case. They're looking for answers and they aren't getting them.
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Re: my impression
Apr 16, 2015, 10:14 PM
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I'll love Clemson for the rest of my life, and Clemson didn't push or talk Tucker off the bridge. But, some student at Clemson may or maynot have. It's not Clemson's fault that the kid has lost his life. But those parents do deserve the answers of what really happen with their child. I just hope that no one in the administration is trying to hide anything from the family just for the sake of saving face.
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Re: my impression
Apr 16, 2015, 10:23 PM
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I can honestly empathize with their position.
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I don't think I'd be able to just let it go either, to just
Apr 16, 2015, 8:33 PM
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say "oh well, that's it, move on". There's too much wrong with the way he died just to let it go, and I don't blame them one bit.
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Re: I don't think I'd be able to just let it go either, to just
Apr 16, 2015, 8:36 PM
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I wish I got 25 million every time I lost a family member.
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If I thought there was a chance a 25 mil dollar lawsuit
Apr 16, 2015, 8:43 PM
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would provide some answers or prevent this from happening to someone else's child, I'd sue in a minute and wouldn't feel one bit bad about it.
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Re: If I thought there was a chance a 25 mil dollar lawsuit
Apr 16, 2015, 8:50 PM
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I wish this family the best, but you can not prevent all tragedies from happening, and this will not bring back their son, nor explain hid death.
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I'm sure they don't expect to get their son back, nor do
Apr 16, 2015, 9:10 PM
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they believe that all tragedies can be prevented. I'm pretty sure that they believe that there are people who do know what happened but aren't talking, and they are hopeful that this will pressure some of them to come forward. How likely it is that someone will is debatable and unclear, but really beside the point, because they think there is hope. I'm sure too that they feel the frat system needs to be examined and perhaps reformed, and if this saves one life by helping bring about any positive change, or brings even more attention to the issue, they would be satisfied.
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Re: I'm sure they don't expect to get their son back, nor do
Apr 16, 2015, 9:17 PM
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100-1 this goes away
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Guaranteed***
Apr 16, 2015, 9:20 PM
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Re: If I thought there was a chance a 25 mil dollar lawsuit
Apr 16, 2015, 10:26 PM
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The law suit and the discovery that goes with it will explain the death of their son. You can get a lot more information to the front in a civil investigation than you can in a criminal investigation.
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Re: I don't think I'd be able to just let it go either, to just
Apr 16, 2015, 8:47 PM
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I get a little irritated at some on here that admits the lawsuit is only about bringing out more info...yet their next breath claim there is already enough evidence for those guys to be arrested.
It's like talking to a brick wall. How can you believe that the lawsuit was filed in the hopes more information would come out while also believing there is already enough information to arrest someone?
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Re: I don't think I'd be able to just let it go either, to just
Apr 16, 2015, 10:25 PM
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I can tell you right now, I would not give up one of my sons for $25 million. The $25 million is so that they can make those responsible feel some of the pain they feel.
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Re: Tucker Hipps family talks about lawsuit
Apr 16, 2015, 8:38 PM
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I keep going back and forth on this topic. At this point there isn't any real evidence that I see to make this any more than an unfortunate accident. I do wish that Clemson did a better job enforcing it's hazing rules though. Let's face it: fraternities are just like any other social club. They are as honorable as the integrity of their members. Some at Clemson are pretty cool. Others not so much.
Anyway, I hope the Hipps can find peace. That's all that really matters anyway.
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Re: Tucker Hipps family talks about lawsuit
Apr 16, 2015, 8:39 PM
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The blame mentality on everything, yes I have children but I'm so sick of this mentality.
They allowed their child to be in a fraternity. They know that hazing still exists in most all fraternities to some degree. Take some responsibility and don't place blame on Clemson. I'm not saying this should have happened, it shouldn't have.
Don't blame Clemson, blame the kid or kids that know what happened. If you're blaming Clemson for allowing hazing to happen and then act like you didn't know hazing was likely when their son joined a frat... Please.
Also.. What the heck does Clemson football have to do with this case? Why do they even bring this up?
So sick of today's culture.
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Re: Tucker Hipps family talks about lawsuit
Apr 16, 2015, 8:41 PM
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well said.
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Sounds like you're blaming the parents
Apr 16, 2015, 8:46 PM
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for letting him join a frat because they should have realized he might get hazed. Why blame them, by your own theory?
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Re: Sounds like you're blaming the parents
Apr 16, 2015, 8:53 PM
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Wrong, hazing on avg means nothing. Nothing happens 99.9% of the time.
Just like waking to class or driving to work.
If suing brought back your ____ who died in a car accident and meant no one could ever drive again does that help society?
Blame the stupid act, not Clemson.
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Fair enough
Apr 16, 2015, 9:06 PM
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I didn't comprehend your message as you intended. I agree - it's not Clemson's responsibility to police everybody all the time nor is it reasonable to expect them to be able to.
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Re: Fair enough
Apr 16, 2015, 10:38 PM
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It is the responsibility of any college to "police" any organization or group that they grant permission to operate on their campus.
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Re: Sounds like you're blaming the parents
Apr 16, 2015, 10:34 PM
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since you brought up cars: Trucking company X allows a driver with a bad driving record to operate a tractor trailer for them. This driver has failed drug tests and had numerous violations. This driver takes a few pills, crosses the center line, and hits a car. In that car is a child who is killed. Should the family sue the driver? Should the family sue the company that the driver worked for? Yes and yes.
In this instance, unfortunately Clemson is the company the driver worked for. By that I mean that Clemson allowed a frat to operate that they knew or should have know was violating hazing rules. Clemson's omission of action was in essence a very real causation of the death of a student.
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Look - this is NOT Clemson's fault - fact.
Apr 16, 2015, 8:54 PM
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no reason to put this on CU - the Admin is doing EVERYTHING they can to make CU top 20 national for Edu.and lifestyle. They get it - no way this is on CU. I talk to my son - talked to him before he went - talked to him when he was rushing frats - told him what he was in for ... what to take and what to not...
Wealthy parents miscalculating their frustration. imho.
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Easy to know what you would do when you have never
Apr 16, 2015, 9:43 PM
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been in the situation.
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unfortunately what is being lost here is that there is a possibility no one is to
Apr 17, 2015, 7:35 AM
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Blame. Just shity luck. no cigarette man, no big brother, no lords of discipline. .. just an unfortunate accident.
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Re: Tucker Hipps family talks about lawsuit
Apr 16, 2015, 10:30 PM
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Are you really saying that a parent should expect their child to die if they let them join a frat?
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Re: Tucker Hipps family talks about lawsuit
Apr 17, 2015, 6:13 AM
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I assume you have never attempted to analyze words before.
That's your only response.
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His responses have been better than your garbage.***
Apr 17, 2015, 7:00 AM
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Re: His responses have been better than your garbage.***
Apr 17, 2015, 7:02 AM
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So you side with the parents and say it's clemsons fault and that they should hate the Clemson football team as well?
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Re: His responses have been better than your garbage.***
Apr 17, 2015, 7:21 AM
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they apparently skipped those parts of the bible that talk about forgiveness, turning the other cheek, and money being the root of all evil.
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Apr 17, 2015, 7:40 AM
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Re: His responses have been better than your garbage.***
Apr 17, 2015, 10:07 PM
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Their son is dead. They are grieving. There are things in this world more important than football. Grieving people go through processes of recovering.
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Parents are still grieving, conflicted & confused ...
Apr 16, 2015, 10:16 PM
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I will cut them a whole lot of slack and not try to judge or draw any conclusions - especially regarding motives or intent.
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Ya See Wealthy people are given the Benefit of a doubt
Apr 19, 2015, 11:46 AM
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Looks to me(from reading the lawsuit ) like LE has enough evidence to file charges. Just my opinion
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