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YOUR BALANCE
Spurrier vs. Dabo (first 6 seasons at current programs)
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Spurrier vs. Dabo (first 6 seasons at current programs)


Jul 29, 2014, 3:42 PM

Spurrier Record Rank(AP)
7-5 (5-3) -
8-5 (3-5) -
6-6 (3-5) -
7-6 (4-4) -
7-6 (3-5) -
9-5 (5-3) 22
TOTALS
44-33 (23-25)

Bowl record: 1-4
Best Bowl win: Liberty
Best conference finish: Won East (Lost to AU in Champ)


Dabo Record Rank(AP)
4-3 (3-2) -
9-5 (6-2) 24
6-7 (4-4) -
10-4(6-2) 22
11-2(7-1) 11
11-2(7-1) 8
TOTALS
51-23 (33-12)

Bowl record: 3-3
Best Bowl Win: Orange
Best Conference finish: Won ACC (Beat VT)


When comparing what they've accomplished in the same relative time span (first 6 years), it's not even close.

We are in good hands, my friends.

Go Tigers!

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"Because at the end of the game, everyone knew that they weren’t that much better than us or better than us at all."


but but but....sec***


Jul 29, 2014, 3:43 PM



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"Clemson has been historically better than Carolina. That's pretty obvious." - Classof09

"No one knew we were overhyped until the season started." - Classof09


True, I forgot a column for that


Jul 29, 2014, 3:44 PM

I guess the facts presented will have to suffice.

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"Because at the end of the game, everyone knew that they weren’t that much better than us or better than us at all."


Re: True, I forgot a column for that


Jul 29, 2014, 3:52 PM

Yeah , the SEC factor will take away at least 3 wins from the Dabo column ....and that's for each year.
So sayeth the followers of thouest Holieth of Conferencialisms .

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DB23


Lets be honest and compare the 1st 6 years as a college HC


Jul 30, 2014, 8:05 AM [ in reply to True, I forgot a column for that ]

SS 1st 3 were at Duke -

SS at Duke in 3 years was - 20-13-1
SS next 3 at Florida was - 28-8

total 48-21-1 not much different

but if you take SS 1st 6 at Florida

he was 61-13-1 pretty good


so you can look at those numbers many ways,

I don't care what SS has done, I'm care about what Dabo will do.

I think Dabo needs to start this year beat the Coots and that's all that really matters.

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Let's be honest?


Jul 30, 2014, 8:47 AM

As if somehow my post, which was verifiable data, is not honest? I clearly pointed out that I was comparing the first 6 years at their current programs. If you want to make your own comparison, go for it. But don't slam me for not going outside of parameters that I clearly defined. Some of y'all sound like you'd rather have the ball coach than Dabo.

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"Because at the end of the game, everyone knew that they weren’t that much better than us or better than us at all."


Some of 'em would.


Jul 30, 2014, 8:50 AM

Unless they had him. Then they'd want somebody else.

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The definition of awesome!


Re: Let's be honest?


Jul 30, 2014, 9:02 AM [ in reply to Let's be honest? ]

I'm sorry you took it that way but I wasn't putting down the numbers.

Maybe I should have phase my title differently.

I was just using the 1st 6 years of HCing.

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You forgot one important statistic that sours the numbers.***


Jul 29, 2014, 3:57 PM



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Well, would you want to trade then?***


Jul 29, 2014, 4:05 PM



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"Because at the end of the game, everyone knew that they weren’t that much better than us or better than us at all."


Re: Spurrier vs. Dabo (first 6 seasons at current programs)


Jul 29, 2014, 4:03 PM

this should take your minds off the last 5 years....for about 30 seconds.

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We don't want you to take your mind off last year, so


Jul 29, 2014, 4:04 PM

we're just going to give you another L this year.

You can thank us later.

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"Because at the end of the game, everyone knew that they weren’t that much better than us or better than us at all."


so you pull for the sec too eh?


Jul 29, 2014, 4:05 PM [ in reply to Re: Spurrier vs. Dabo (first 6 seasons at current programs) ]

Weren't yall 1-11 against spurrier when he was at florida?

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"No one knew we were overhyped until the season started." - Classof09


zing


Jul 29, 2014, 4:06 PM

tu

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"Because at the end of the game, everyone knew that they weren’t that much better than us or better than us at all."


Re: zing


Jul 29, 2014, 9:15 PM

Clemson has losing records to Vandy and Kentucky and neither had Spurrier as their coach.

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Re: zing


Jul 29, 2014, 9:21 PM

Do we really? Lol

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If we played them every year, Clemson WOULD have a


Jul 29, 2014, 9:29 PM [ in reply to Re: zing ]

winning record against both. Of course, the Tigers would probably be 0-for-Lexington in basketball.

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You can't use logic with these SEC homers.***


Jul 29, 2014, 9:36 PM



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There's something in these hills.


Well dickwad, how often does Clemson play Vandy or Kentucky?


Jul 29, 2014, 9:35 PM [ in reply to Re: zing ]

The last time we played Kentucky, we won. What about your Dwags?

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There's something in these hills.


Re: zing


Jul 29, 2014, 11:11 PM [ in reply to Re: zing ]

Last time we played Vanderbilt was 54 years ago… pretty relevant

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Re: zing


Jul 30, 2014, 6:34 AM

> Last time we played Vanderbilt was 54 years ago…
> pretty relevant

Why isnt that relevant, but Clemson fans harp on the overall head to head wins with Carolina, most of which were 54+ years ago? Sounds pretty hypocritical to me.

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You can't be that stupid 7-8 over the last 15 shows how


Jul 30, 2014, 8:35 AM

Important your 5 game run is and still not even. 15 is no where near 54

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Go back one more to make being even possible and it is


Jul 30, 2014, 8:36 AM

7-9. Be thankful for your current success and quit making clown comments

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yet another coot troll...always looking to be relevant with


Jul 30, 2014, 11:50 AM [ in reply to Re: zing ]

BIG BROTHER....guess what... you have not been, are not now, and will never be. HTH

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"No one knew we were overhyped until the season started." - Classof09


Re: zing


Jul 30, 2014, 6:53 AM [ in reply to Re: zing ]

I am confussed about 54 year ago conference affiliation. Is or is 54 years ago a W for the SEC?

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Re: zing


Jul 29, 2014, 11:35 PM [ in reply to Re: zing ]

Georgia has a losing record vs. Maryland, Wake Forest, Houston, Pittsburgh, Miami University of Ohio, and Rice. Ouch. Don't throw stones if you live in a class house SuperDawg51...

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Re: zing


Jul 29, 2014, 11:37 PM

Glass* oops haha

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Re: zing - we didn't have Dabo either***


Jul 30, 2014, 8:00 AM [ in reply to Re: zing ]



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You are truly pathetic.


Jul 30, 2014, 10:42 AM [ in reply to Re: zing ]

So you TRY to take a stab at our record against spurriers team, and obviously that didn't go well for you because your team fared much worse against his UF team, Heck they are 3-2 against your mighty puppies in the last 5 years.

Then you want to bring up a couple of teams we've played a handful of times, one of which we haven't played since 1960, and the other we've played 3 times since 1985(BTW we're 2-1 against them in that time).

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"Clemson has been historically better than Carolina. That's pretty obvious." - Classof09

"No one knew we were overhyped until the season started." - Classof09


Are you going to cry like a baby this year


Jul 30, 2014, 12:07 PM [ in reply to Re: zing ]

after we beat you as well?

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Do you have a life? Serious question.***


Jul 29, 2014, 9:34 PM [ in reply to Re: Spurrier vs. Dabo (first 6 seasons at current programs) ]



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There's something in these hills.


Hey vicarious looser of all loosers living thru the chickens


Jul 30, 2014, 6:56 AM [ in reply to Re: Spurrier vs. Dabo (first 6 seasons at current programs) ]

SCOREBOARD ! ! !

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Brad Brownell: Only Larry freaking Shyatt has a WORSE overall winning percentage among Clemson basketball coaches since 1975. Let that sink in. It's Larry Shyatt & then Brad Brownell.


dawg defending a coot. .. there is a carton


Jul 30, 2014, 8:26 AM [ in reply to Re: Spurrier vs. Dabo (first 6 seasons at current programs) ]

Network show in this somewhere

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Geville Tiger on Clemson football , "Dabo's only problem is he has to deal with turd fans questioning every move he makes.”


Re: dawg defending a coot. .. there is a carton


Jul 30, 2014, 8:32 AM

Logic : Dawgs and Coots don't know this.

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DB23


Re: Spurrier vs. Dabo (first 6 seasons at current programs)


Jul 30, 2014, 12:06 PM [ in reply to Re: Spurrier vs. Dabo (first 6 seasons at current programs) ]

Yeah but he kicked georgias butt weenydawg

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Re: Spurrier vs. Dabo (first 6 seasons at current programs)


Jul 29, 2014, 4:20 PM

Excellent !

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Lies, #### lies, and statistics. Doesn't make me feel


Jul 29, 2014, 5:15 PM

any better.
Mark Twain

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Re: Lies, #### lies, and statistics. Doesn't make me feel


Jul 30, 2014, 8:26 AM

Actually, it was Disraeli who gave that famous quote.

Mark Twain gave us: "No good deed shall go unpunished." I've proven him right about that many times over.

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The definition of awesome!


smh. Don't throw your back out with the spin.


Jul 29, 2014, 11:25 PM

Head to head and final rankings trump all that crap.

We just need to beat them so we stop the pathetic deflecting garbage.

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winner, totally agree***


Jul 30, 2014, 7:59 AM



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My back's fine, thanks.


Jul 30, 2014, 8:44 AM [ in reply to smh. Don't throw your back out with the spin. ]

The evidence for final rankings in the first 6 years is listed, and the contrast is evident.

I thought it would be interesting to compare the two coaches during their first 6 seasons on the job at their respective programs. I'm really not sure how it can be interpreted as spin or "deflecting." The facts are listed. Would you rather have Spurrier through 6 years?

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"Because at the end of the game, everyone knew that they weren’t that much better than us or better than us at all."


I would rather have beaten them. We have not.


Jul 30, 2014, 8:47 AM

And I do not look for irrelevant things to make me feel better about that. That works for many... but not all. I just accept the suckness and hope for change.

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I'm sorry that you feel that what the program has


Jul 30, 2014, 9:01 AM

done over that span outside of one game is "irrelevant" and should be defined as "suckness." I respectfully disagree.

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"Because at the end of the game, everyone knew that they weren’t that much better than us or better than us at all."


What the program has done outside of the rivalry has been


Jul 30, 2014, 11:35 AM

impressive and something to be very proud of. However this thread is about the rivalry. Notice the juxtaposition of SCAR and Clemson in your OP. Rivalry.

That's the suckness I am referring to... the rivalry.

When discussing the rivalry, your points matter extremely little when compared to scoreboard.

If you framed the discussion outside of the context of the rivalry, my attitude would be very different.

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You can interpret the post any way you like.


Jul 30, 2014, 12:00 PM

Thanks for clarifying though. At least we can 100% agree that Clemson is impressive and that it makes us proud.

Go Tigers!

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"Because at the end of the game, everyone knew that they weren’t that much better than us or better than us at all."


Re: My back's fine, thanks.


Jul 30, 2014, 10:16 AM [ in reply to My back's fine, thanks. ]

Thanks for this insight.

Clemson is doing fine and in my house Dabo gets the credit. Surely we all remember some disgusting losses during Dabo's first few years, losses in which Dabo basically gave away the game. Those days are way back behind Clemson now and Dabo is the man!

GO TIGERS!!!

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