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Rock Defender [53]
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Has there ever been a time since the early '90s
Jul 23, 2014, 11:29 AM
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That we've had 5 athletes on the defensive side of the ball on the same level as Beasley, Anthony, Grady, Alexander and Kearse? The latter 2 still have much to prove, but I'm talking from a pure "tools" standpoint?
It just seems if all 5 of these guys have good years that it's hard to envision us not having a top 5 defense.
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Legend [16629]
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Not to mention the depth, especially on the line
Jul 23, 2014, 11:32 AM
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There won't be much drop off when the back-ups come in. That should frighten the crap out of opponents.
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Rock Defender [53]
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Re: Not to mention the depth, especially on the line
Jul 23, 2014, 11:35 AM
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Exactly, I haven't even gone into mentioning Crawford, Reader, Smith, etc.
Heck, I think Deshawn Williams would start on a lot of teams and he's 3rd in the rotation at his position.
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Re: Not to mention the depth, especially on the line
Jul 23, 2014, 12:17 PM
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You keep forgetting Lawson. Maybe the best combination of size/talent on the line.
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Re: Not to mention the depth, especially on the line
Jul 23, 2014, 1:20 PM
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Lets not forget Tavaris Barnes... He got to the QB more times than Vic during the Spring Game
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Heisman Winner [105574]
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With our style of offense, I don't know that
Jul 23, 2014, 11:35 AM
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a top 5 defense is really a possibility is it?
From a statistical standpoint that is...just seems like our defense has more possessions than most.
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Oculus Spirit [96857]
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the defense doesn't ordinarily
Jul 23, 2014, 11:37 AM
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posses the ball, does it?
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Ring of Honor [26353]
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Ours does.
Jul 23, 2014, 11:38 AM
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Try to keep up bOb
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110%er [7238]
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Re: Ours does.
Jul 23, 2014, 1:21 PM
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Yea BOB KEEP UP!
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Re: Correct me if I'm wrong, but the defense doesn't ordinarily
Jul 23, 2014, 12:55 PM
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Is like to see the D possess the bal 5 or six times a game..... It'd be great for them to out score our O..... And for our O to score 28 plus a game
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Re: True, but if we score on the reg
Jul 23, 2014, 11:39 AM
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But I don't think we will be able to score as fast or often this year tho.
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Rock Defender [53]
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Re: True, but if we score on the reg
Jul 23, 2014, 11:43 AM
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I actually wouldn't mind scoring fewer points as long as the points aren't as reliant on boom or bust.
I have no problems with Chad Morris' philosophy and I completely get it, but there's nothing wrong with letting your own defense rest.
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I think we might not see as many 3 play drives
Jul 23, 2014, 11:45 AM
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this season due to quick scores. And that's fine. Possess the ball more. Wear 'em down.
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Orange Blooded [4302]
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I definitely think we will see a more "grind it out" style
Jul 23, 2014, 11:48 AM
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of offense this year. We will still take shots downfield, but I think they will be fewer and setup even more. I think the overall game plan will be to possess the ball for loner drives relying on ground game and Cole's accuracy and decision making for "safer" throws.
Lower turnovers by our offense, rested & uber-talented defense. I think this is a good game plan for beating the Dawgs, Coots and FSU.
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Rock Defender [53]
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Re: With our style of offense, I don't know that
Jul 23, 2014, 11:38 AM
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Maybe not unless we run the ball 100 times more than we have the past 2 years. I think it was still top 25 last year even with all the yards UGA, FSU and OSU were able to get.
Hopefully with Kearse and Alexander we can make opposing QBs pay for mistakes more often than in the past. I feel like prior to last year, we've dropped a lot of INTs over the past half-decade.
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Re: Has there ever been a time since the early '90s
Jul 23, 2014, 11:36 AM
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All I know is if our secondary can't cover the D will be about as good as last season. That will be the key to a top D, they have got to stop giving up long pass plays.
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Ring of Honor [26353]
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Solid football post is solid***
Jul 23, 2014, 11:36 AM
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Rock Defender [53]
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Re: Has there ever been a time since the early '90s
Jul 23, 2014, 11:39 AM
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Bump so that Crump and BMeist can see and thank me.
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Legend [16629]
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Look for this in your Tmail soon***
Jul 23, 2014, 11:44 AM
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Rock Defender [53]
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Re: Look for this in your Tmail soon***
Jul 23, 2014, 11:45 AM
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Already showed my mom and she's got one on the way for me, but thank you.
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Oculus Spirit [96857]
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Rock Defender [53]
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Re: I'm sure they have a participation trophy ready
Jul 23, 2014, 11:46 AM
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Germans. You're kinda slow today Bob. Everything okay?
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Ring of Honor [26353]
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He's mad cause we called him out for being a yankee and
Jul 23, 2014, 11:47 AM
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not liking boiled peanuts
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Rock Defender [53]
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Re: He's mad cause we called him out for being a yankee and
Jul 23, 2014, 11:50 AM
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He lives in Charlotte, that's pretty much the North anyway. Haha, I grew up literally 20 minutes outside of Charlotte and many of the transplants there act like I'm an alien with my tobaccer and country talk. So I understand Bob's yankee plight.
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Ring of Honor [26353]
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I'm pretty sure he also admitted to being from Ohio and
Jul 23, 2014, 12:01 PM
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routing for the Browns and Cavs while eating tomatoes...he has wheird fetishes
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i think 2010 comes close........
Jul 23, 2014, 11:47 AM
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bowers, jenkins, thompson, branch,gilchrist,maxwell
unfortunately for them our offense was a better defense than our defense was that year.
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Rock Defender [53]
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Re: i think 2010 comes close........
Jul 23, 2014, 11:49 AM
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That's true...it's easy to overlook how talented that squad was due to how atrocious the offense was that year.
That said, I think the depth gives us a slight edge this year. I also think that even though Bowers was impressive, he doesn't change a gameplan like Beasley.
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we had a lot of very good players in the secondary and at LB
Jul 23, 2014, 12:12 PM
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When Bowden was coach, we had teams with guys like Tye Hill, Waters, Washington, and Justin Miller on them at the same time. Later, we had teams with guys like Maxwell, Gilchrist, McDaniel, and Chancellor along with some pretty good DL talent.
I also forgot to mention guys like Chris Clemons, Sensabaugh, Crezdon Butler, Kavell Conner and Mike Hamlin. We've really improved the overall depth at DL and LB, but I think we were actually better in the secondary in the 2000s.
Guys like that might be the reason why we pretty much always finished in the top 25 in defense in the 2000s but are only just now cracking it again under Swinney.
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9/10 would recommend to a friend
Jul 23, 2014, 12:11 PM
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Rock Defender [53]
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Re: 9/10 would recommend to a friend
Jul 23, 2014, 12:11 PM
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I'm glad you and I both share in the enthusiasm of the 2014 Clemson Football Tigers team.
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Ring of Honor [26353]
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ibwg you need to tone it down a notch please***
Jul 23, 2014, 12:14 PM
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Legend [16629]
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No, but in the 80's it was routine rather than exception.
Jul 23, 2014, 12:16 PM
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The OL and the entire D of that era were unmatched, and them kicking game was mighty fine as well!
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All-In [35206]
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True. And our new triple option O will catch em all by surprise.
Jul 23, 2014, 12:35 PM
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Nealon, Emory, and Raymond are gonna be a force.
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Re: Has there ever been a time since the early '90s
Jul 23, 2014, 12:42 PM
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Were you born in the early 90's?
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Rock Defender [53]
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Re: Has there ever been a time since the early '90s
Jul 23, 2014, 1:56 PM
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No
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Well, yes, don't forget about '94 when we had
Jul 23, 2014, 1:05 PM
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Cochran, Cheatem, Crooks and Fleecem. They never lost to the Coots.
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Just to play devil's advocate:
Jul 23, 2014, 1:17 PM
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2010 Defense had: Da'Quan, Malliciah Goodman, Jarvis, Jenkins, Brandon Thompson, Andre Branch, Marcus Gilchrist, DeAndre McDaniel, Jonathan Meeks, Byron Maxwell, and Coty Sensabaugh.
All of those guys (save D-Mac) are still in the league (and D-Mac would've been a first-rounder if he hadn't come back and inexplicably sucked that year).
That's a pretty loaded D.
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