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Mickey Plyler: The Sham
Dec 8, 2009, 12:57 PM
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CU Medallion [58414]
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### n straight***
Dec 8, 2009, 1:03 PM
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Heisman not what it was... it's been watered down for years.
Dec 8, 2009, 1:05 PM
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Eddie George was probably the last TRUE Heisman winner. OSU finished high in the polls but was not considered for the national championship when he won it. Nevertheless, he was a GREAT runningback and would have been on ANY team. He went on to further prove it in the NFL.
CJ will at least have the same opportunity in the NFL. I will enjoy watching him on Sundays to come.
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Just left customers office
Dec 8, 2009, 1:06 PM
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He is a huge Gator fan.....We discussed that CJ was left out....and he said CJ should be there not Tebow. He was not being down on Tebow, just the fact Tebow did not earn the right this year.
Thought that was interesting.
He also commented that we should be able to get some good linebackers...in his opinion
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Re: Mickey Plyler: The Sham
Dec 8, 2009, 1:14 PM
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Other area of roster change...MLB draft?
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Re: Mickey Plyler: The Sham
Dec 8, 2009, 1:24 PM
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C.J. Spiller will get his redemption at the NFL Draft in April. NFL scouts don't base anything on popularity - they base it on the talent & skill of the player. On that score C.J. will be a top pick in the First Round. He will get his reward, he deserves it, and I look forward to seeing him play on Sundays. I will be an automatic fan of whatever team he plays for. I am not even sure if McCoy or Tebow are starting QB's in the NFL. C.J. is an immediate impact player in the NFL!
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Korn heading to Furman...
Dec 8, 2009, 1:34 PM
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best of luck to him.
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How accurate is this information?***
Dec 8, 2009, 2:46 PM
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Seems like another D-1 program would be interested...
Dec 8, 2009, 2:48 PM
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...in Korn.
Why does he have to settle in at a Southern Conference school?
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Re: Seems like another D-1 program would be interested...
Dec 8, 2009, 3:30 PM
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I bet Wake Forest would take him right this minute. He would work well in their offensive scheme.
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CU would never let that happen
Dec 8, 2009, 4:10 PM
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He would have to sit a year
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NOT !!! --- KORN WILL GRADUATE !!!!!***
Dec 8, 2009, 7:17 PM
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^^^ NOT True in this case, Korn will GRADUATE, he can
Dec 8, 2009, 3:57 PM
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go anywhere without sitting out, just has to be a part of their Graduate school program.
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You're wrong. He'd have to sit out a year.***
Dec 8, 2009, 9:47 PM
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From the moment you enter college, you have
Dec 9, 2009, 3:47 PM
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5 years to play 4. This is regardless of your graduation status.
Willy's eligibility clock started ticking the moment he entered Clemson and he has used up 3 full years of eligibility.
Technically, he has two left, but he would need some sort of NCAA wavier to transfer to a D-1 school and keep both years.
Not sure what sort of leverage he would have to be granted any sort of wavier.
Thoughts???
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Re: You sure? Furman just nabbed another D1 QB last season...***
Dec 9, 2009, 7:25 AM
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People you are forgetting about the Furman connection on the CU staff ... O/C Napier.. Korn could step in at Furman and be a starter .. Clemson would not be hurt has we have the kid form Hampton Roads, Virginia that is just as good as Korn or better. When any program has 3 good QB's it is very hard to keep them on the bench
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Re: Mickey Plyler: The Sham
Dec 8, 2009, 2:28 PM
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Until money,ticket sales ,wacked t.v. contracts,ect.,does not matter anymore,we will see this happen ...LOL.C.J.,DESERVES to be on that stage,even if I weren't a Tiger.I personally feel SC*&%D.on our lost to USUCK(overlook THEM for a C.C. game???...WHAT??!!).Then a #### poor defensive showing(could not get motivated for that one ,too?)Add an insult of a bowl.At the very least ,we should be playing Tenn. or Virg.Tech., IF we had to play an SEC team.To start me on the officiating of our last game,would not be wise,either.Bottem line...NO RESPECT!!
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Re: Mickey Plyler: The Sham
Dec 8, 2009, 2:45 PM
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Good article. Someone had an interesting idea yesterday that I totally agree with- it would have made the heisman voters look stupid when they showed CJ's highlights during the ceremony & then he did not win. I think most of us agree that, with team credentials compared to the others, he probably would not have won, but just to have him there representing our university would have been HUGE. The fact that he will not be there is a joke! He is a human highlight reel & the model of what a collegiate athlete should be all about. Alot of people would probably realize that if they would stop drooling over Tebow.
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Wow.
Dec 8, 2009, 3:36 PM
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Re: Mickey Plyler: The Sham
Dec 8, 2009, 3:37 PM
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Tebow is not going to win it...he knows he is not going to win it. Therefore, he should continue to be of good character and ask Spiller to take his place as someone more deserving. Tebow would still would get to attend as a former winner.
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was it a sham last year when we went to the gator...
Dec 8, 2009, 3:44 PM
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...instead of FSU? I think it was, but no tigers bitched then?? Quit acting like a bunch of whiners for pete's sake!!
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You sir, must be a coot!! You do sound like one...***
Dec 8, 2009, 6:21 PM
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You sir, must be an idiot, as you deny the truth!
Dec 9, 2009, 3:42 PM
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Coot my a$$, you're just another idiot that remembers things the way you want. People crying and whining about the bowl situation are sounding like a bunch of hypocrites!!
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Hmm. You can't even spell HeiSMAn with out an S,H,A, or M.***
Dec 8, 2009, 3:46 PM
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Re: Hmm. You can't even spell HeiSMAn with out an S,H,A, or M.***
Dec 8, 2009, 3:49 PM
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plyler complains of a sham and dismisses a player he saw play once. pot meet kettle.
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Re: Hmm. You can't even spell HeiSMAn with out an S,H,A, or M.***
Dec 8, 2009, 9:29 PM
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You wanna know why Spiller didn't win? It's the same thing I hear from everybody all the time: SEC will always be better than the ACC. Load of crap for all I'm concerned. We got caught looking ahead and so did georgia tech. If you give Spiller any kind of hole similar to the ones you see Ingram run through then you have a LEGIT Heisman contender, meaning somebody who can be talked about for a long time. It infuriates me that Spiller can make plays all by himself and carry our entire team in the ACC championship, the biggest night of his football career, and you get what to show for it? not even an invitation? I used to love the NCAA but now i'm starting to realize what a sham it really is...
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I think CJ is the most electric player in NCAA but for a RB
Dec 8, 2009, 3:49 PM
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to avg only 88 yds per game, thats not so hot. He avg 34 yds receiving per game, again thats nothing. And he avg 70 yds in returns per game. To me those numbers do not justify a trip to NYC.
Go ahead and call me a coot, blah blah blah. But I call it like I see it, he's an exceptional player, one of my top 3 favorites of all time in Clemson, but he simply doesnt have the numbers to justify it; its a lot like baseball when it comes to the heisman, its just simply numbers.
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Re: I think CJ is the most electric player in NCAA but for a RB
Dec 8, 2009, 5:21 PM
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But isnt that 192 yards per game average? Plus a touchdown in every game, who else did that? He seemed to break different records every week. These were NCAA, ACC, and Clemson records.
I wonder how many voters did research on the candidates beyond going to espn or si to get there information. espn/nissan did not even show the APY on their website. Looking at rushing and receiving yards alone does not give the full picture of what CJ accomplished this year.
It was rarely mentioned, except locally, how opposing coaches gave up field position in the kicking game to avoid the big play by CJ.
If a voter didnt do their homework it would be very easy to look at his stats and conclude that he was not Heisman material.
Its a shame. But I for one am very proud of him and wish him the best in the future. He was the most exciting player I have watched in person. I am glad he chose to come to Clemson.
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Re: I think CJ is the most electric player in NCAA but for a RB
Dec 8, 2009, 6:03 PM
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Also, at the risk of being called a coot, didn't he have like 18 yds rushing and a fumble against USC.
I agree he is the most explosive player we've ever had but the best ever... What if Woody had been allowed to return kicks?
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Re: I think CJ is the most electric player in NCAA but for a RB
Dec 8, 2009, 6:11 PM
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you forgot the opening kick-off return of 88 yds , yeah you must be a c what is usuc mascot,a freaken chicken
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Re: I think CJ is the most electric player in NCAA but for a RB
Dec 8, 2009, 6:07 PM
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Then you can't ADD and you didn't do your homework CJ did not play in second half vs Mid TEnn St., Coastal,Wake, and continualy got pulled out of other games in 4th qtr, that is unlike many of the UNWORTHY WHO DONT HAVE THE #'s either.who were invited , I can only hope CJ gets to have the last laugh on all you so called knowledgeable football critics,remember Walter Payton, Barry Sanders. And by the way you had no Clue you were stating the obvious 88 per game rush, 33 per rec per game,70 return yards per game ,THAT 191 YARDS PER GAME ,20 TDS Season, 4th alltime purpose yards NCAA, not one of the 5 invited can say that!!!!!!!!!
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Wow, get your head out of sand...
Dec 8, 2009, 8:15 PM
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Do you have a pulse? You have to be someone else masquerading as a Clemson fan. You just described in your post exactly what makes him so great: all-around player. When you can catch and run like him, and return kicks, you are special. Not many can do it, or even try. For one, the body takes a lot of punishment. What do you want him to do, play defense too? Let's see, in his "bad game" on a nauseated stomach, he only still returned kick for a touchdown and broke NCAA record. Other Heisman candidates also had equally bad games, or worse, sinc they didn't even return kicks in those games. Where were you all year, particularly the second half, when no one would even kick to him, giving us excellent field position? His presence on the field cause more loss of sleep, more chewed out kickers, more angst and stategy changes for the other team than any other player. No one even close. And still racked up the statistics. His statistics easily compare or exceed those of other all-purpose players as well! Wake up friend!
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Re: Wow, get your head out of sand...
Dec 9, 2009, 11:11 AM
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IMHO, it's the team that lost Spiller his oppurtunity for Heisman. Anyone who watched him can see he gave it all in every game. If the team takes care of business and finishes 10-2 or better, Spiller is a lock.
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Okay... I have not read the other replies to your ignorant
Dec 9, 2009, 9:40 AM
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post, so I might be repeating something they have already posted...
CJ is NOT JUST A RB! Of course he would not be worthy of an invite to NY based on his RB statistics.
The numbers from his other "positions" should have been considered as well -- APY, TD, returns, receiving, etc.
To categorize him as a RB only and to focus soley on those contributions to make a case for why he should not be invited to NY is ridiculous.
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How about these numbers?
Dec 9, 2009, 10:40 AM
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He is the ONLY player in the nation to score a TD in every game this year. NO ONE else did that this year. Not Tebow, Ingram, Gerhart, McCoy, Suh, or anyone else.
He is the ONLY player in the nation to score a TD five different ways: rushing, passing, receiving, returning punts, and returning kicks. NO ONE else did that. Not Tebow, Ingram, Gerhart, McCoy, Suh, or anyone else.
He is the ONLY player, EVER, in NCAA history with 3,000 yards rushing, 2,000 yards on kickoff returns, 1,000 receiving and 500 in punt returns. NO ONE, not Tebow, Ingram, Gerhart, McCoy, Suh, or anyone else, EVER IN THE HISTORY OF FOOTBALL, has done that.
Oh, and he has more yards and TDs than Ingram.
I won't call you a coot. Just either blind, or ignorant of the facts. Whcih considering you are supposedly a Tiger fan, is kind of shameful.
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Even more puzzling, based on your post history, DV1981
Dec 9, 2009, 10:46 AM
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Seems you recognized how great he is. Maybe you just didn't look at all the facts?
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Re: Mickey Plyler: The Sham
Dec 9, 2009, 12:32 PM
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###? HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN? NO INVITE TO NYC? WELL AT LEAST IT GOT SMOOTHED OVER WITH A TRIP TO THE MUSIC CITY BOWL. GEEZ!!! WHOSE ### SHOULD WE KICK!!
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