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BKB Update: Radakovich, Brownell to meet Saturday morning
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BKB Update: Radakovich, Brownell to meet Saturday morning


Mar 17, 2017, 5:55 PM

 
Radakovich, Brownell to meet Saturday morning

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is it at 11:00?


Mar 17, 2017, 5:57 PM

oh boy?

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looks like Tigernet News just scooped


Mar 17, 2017, 5:59 PM

davidhood®

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Re: looks like Tigernet News just scooped


Mar 17, 2017, 6:02 PM

Snowtown® if only I had some way to prove I wrote this, like put my name on it or something

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yes.. that would definitely help


Mar 17, 2017, 6:04 PM



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like the russians didn't hack it and put your name on it***


Mar 17, 2017, 8:28 PM [ in reply to Re: looks like Tigernet News just scooped ]



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"I want Brad to succeed here..."


Mar 17, 2017, 6:00 PM

Well he has to be here to succeed here.

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that would seem to be a prerequisite.. yes


Mar 17, 2017, 6:01 PM



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Re: that would seem to be a prerequisite.. yes


Mar 17, 2017, 6:03 PM

Will he put conditions on Brownell keeping his job ?

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Re: "I want Brad to succeed here..."


Mar 17, 2017, 6:04 PM [ in reply to "I want Brad to succeed here..." ]

This is a big mistake but it follows Radakovich's history with coaching changes.

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Re: "I want Brad to succeed here..."


Mar 17, 2017, 6:18 PM

Jack Leggett come to mind?

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Re: "I want Brad to succeed here..."


Mar 17, 2017, 7:36 PM

Very much so. Let's call it "The Mandate Part Deux".

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"...so we're transferring him to the mailroom"***


Mar 17, 2017, 6:35 PM [ in reply to "I want Brad to succeed here..." ]



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Re: "...so we're transferring him to the mailroom"***

1

Mar 18, 2017, 6:17 PM

women's softball coach

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Translation....


Mar 17, 2017, 6:53 PM [ in reply to "I want Brad to succeed here..." ]

I don't want to pay the $3.5 million buyout to which I foolishly agreed.

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Sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together.


Re: Translation....


Mar 17, 2017, 6:59 PM

Dan was in a good mood that day I guess...how do you throw money at a guy that hasn't accomplished anything here

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Which wouldn't make a whole lot of sense, unless he plans


Mar 17, 2017, 7:01 PM [ in reply to Translation.... ]

on keeping him next year too, no matter what, as the buyout then only drops to 3.0 million. Is driving Clemson basketball even further into the ground and wasting a whole year worth saving $500,000.00? I don't see how, and I can't imagine that being a factor.

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"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."
- H. L. Mencken


Statements like this are just silly.


Mar 17, 2017, 9:35 PM

"driving Clemson basketball even further into the ground" ???

Brad hasn't driven Clemson basketball into the ground. I kinda want change with new blood, but heck if Brownell ends up on the good side of a Syracuse and VT 3-pointer we're likely in the NCAA's. The losses and the way they have occurred have been extremely frustrating, but it's not like this team was eons away from being good this season. Early on we looked much improved, and then the close losses added up. This team could have just as easily been a 20+ win team. I know it's been 7 years, but the guy has been snakebit. Much like basically every team in Clemson history is one way or another.

No matter what, can we as Clemson people try to show some class to Brad and his family? Acting like petulant kids on a public forum accomplishes absolutely nothing but make us look bad.

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I'm really very sorry to have to say this


Mar 17, 2017, 10:05 PM

but all those close losses point to a coaching failure. Dabo has taught the football team how to win. They gut out the close victories nearly every time. Brad doesn't have the it factor.

How many times did we see the bball team come out of a time out and throw up a pi55 poor shot to end the game? It left me wondering, is THAT what he drew up?

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The definition of awesome!


Re: I'm really very sorry to have to say this


Mar 17, 2017, 10:27 PM

Your point is not valid

Dabo has/had better players
Why
Yes he recruits better but he also had something already to recruit to

Don't tell me how OP left the program in great shape
OP coached in a weaker ACC
OP stacked OOC schedules with cupcakes that is why Clemson would go 15-1 or 16-0 before hitting the ACC
OP did not develop players well
OP hit his ceiling and escaped to a retirement job DePaul and did nothing there

Use basketball to basketball analogies because Clemson basketball ain't Clemson Football.

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Re: I'm really very sorry to have to say this


Mar 18, 2017, 12:20 AM

It is not Clemson football and that is the problem. You can make excuses all you want but he is right. Our basketball team does not know how to win and the coach has do feed that to his players. You can blame it on the 18-22 year old kids if you want but that is coaching. We have the talent or we would not have been close in so many games.

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I don't know about that...


Mar 18, 2017, 3:34 PM [ in reply to "I want Brad to succeed here..." ]

If he walks out of DRad's office with $3.5 million, it would be difficult by any metric to consider that a personal failure.

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Re: BKB Update: Radakovich, Brownell to meet Saturday morning


Mar 17, 2017, 6:08 PM

7 years of mediocrity needs to end 3/1817. Good guy but this is a results business and his results are not worthy of continuing as men's basketball coach. Clemson deserves more than this guy. #notmycoach

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I'm sure a lot of good things ended in March of


Mar 17, 2017, 6:10 PM

1817

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For your research....


Mar 17, 2017, 6:20 PM

http://www.onthisday.com/events/date/1817/march

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Well, if that's a clue


Mar 17, 2017, 6:24 PM

not much is happening tomorrow

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I can think of at least 1 thing that ended in March 1817


Mar 17, 2017, 6:22 PM [ in reply to I'm sure a lot of good things ended in March of ]

February, 1817.

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Re: I can think of at least 1 thing that ended in March 1817


Mar 17, 2017, 7:42 PM

You guys are relentless. Can't let a brother slide for one little typo?

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Re: I can think of at least 1 thing that ended in March 1817


Mar 18, 2017, 5:03 PM

Lol, it's funny in its context. ??

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Re: I'm sure a lot of good things ended in March of


Mar 18, 2017, 4:57 PM [ in reply to I'm sure a lot of good things ended in March of ]

Nice catch. Sign u up for WR.

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Can someone call me when a decision has been made?


Mar 17, 2017, 6:29 PM

Just leave a message with my sister Jenny if I'm not there, 864-867-5309.

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Re: Can someone call me when a decision has been made?


Mar 17, 2017, 8:06 PM

Pic??

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Mar 17, 2017, 8:39 PM
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Re: BKB Update: Radakovich, Brownell to meet Saturday morning


Mar 17, 2017, 6:32 PM

Nice guy? Yes. Results? Not so much. But what worries me is why such a talented team did not seem to respond...almost ever...at crunch time. Something else is going on with the coaching and it's not good.

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yea, dont go out on a limb their...***


Mar 17, 2017, 7:01 PM



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LOL at "such a talented team"


Mar 17, 2017, 9:23 PM [ in reply to Re: BKB Update: Radakovich, Brownell to meet Saturday morning ]

You act like we have tons of talent and have no excuse for losing those games. We have some good pieces, but our talent level is still toward the bottom of the ACC.

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"All those 'Fire Brownell' guys can kiss it." -Joseph Girard III

"Everybody needs to know that Coach Brownell is arguably the best coach to come through Clemson." -PJ Hall


I'm not going to look it up...but I remember a post


Mar 17, 2017, 9:28 PM

from you at the beginning of the season that said "I GUARANTEE WE MAKE THE NCAAT THIS YEAR"

You were referring to our talent level being much better than years past...

maybe cutigerbob® could find it.

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Maybe not such a good idea to


Mar 17, 2017, 9:37 PM

bring up guarantees.

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whose scok are you?***


Mar 17, 2017, 10:01 PM



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"Clemson has been historically better than Carolina. That's pretty obvious." - Classof09

"No one knew we were overhyped until the season started." - Classof09


Hmmm...***


Mar 17, 2017, 11:30 PM [ in reply to Maybe not such a good idea to ]



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"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


it's hard for me to take someone serious that much prefers


Mar 17, 2017, 9:52 PM [ in reply to I'm not going to look it up...but I remember a post ]

tci's "news" approach to tnet.

http://forums.theclemsoninsider.com/showthread.php?p=344144

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"Clemson has been historically better than Carolina. That's pretty obvious." - Classof09

"No one knew we were overhyped until the season started." - Classof09


I don't remember a guarantee but a quick google search found


Mar 17, 2017, 9:58 PM [ in reply to I'm not going to look it up...but I remember a post ]

this thread.

http://www.tigernet.com/forums/message.jspa?messageID=20000466#20000466

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"Clemson has been historically better than Carolina. That's pretty obvious." - Classof09

"No one knew we were overhyped until the season started." - Classof09


that doesn't sound like a post from someone who feels our


Mar 17, 2017, 10:06 PM

talent is at the bottom of the ACC

I remember the post, b/c I remember thinking "I should screenshot this"...

of course I didn't

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Snowtown, I'm honored that you care so much about what I think.


Mar 17, 2017, 11:15 PM

Seriously, I'm flattered.

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"All those 'Fire Brownell' guys can kiss it." -Joseph Girard III

"Everybody needs to know that Coach Brownell is arguably the best coach to come through Clemson." -PJ Hall


no problem***


Mar 17, 2017, 11:17 PM



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Re: Snowtown, I'm honored that you care so much about what I think.


Mar 18, 2017, 2:29 PM [ in reply to Snowtown, I'm honored that you care so much about what I think. ]

Snowtown cares what everyone thinks, lol!

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we won't have judge picking our lottery numbers I see......***


Mar 17, 2017, 10:08 PM [ in reply to I don't remember a guarantee but a quick google search found ]



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You definitely don't want me picking.***


Mar 18, 2017, 6:49 PM



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"All those 'Fire Brownell' guys can kiss it." -Joseph Girard III

"Everybody needs to know that Coach Brownell is arguably the best coach to come through Clemson." -PJ Hall


I want him to succeed too, but it ain't happnin***


Mar 17, 2017, 7:27 PM



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NO FARMERS NO FOOD


what are you guys hearing?***


Mar 17, 2017, 7:31 PM



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Man up and fire him DRad!***


Mar 17, 2017, 9:31 PM



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Re: BKB Update: Radakovich, Brownell to meet Saturday morning


Mar 17, 2017, 9:36 PM

Game over.

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be shocked if Dan does anything from this.....


Mar 17, 2017, 9:53 PM

...how does a guy come up with a different plan for year eight given he's done next to nothing for years 1-7.....smh....

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Re: be shocked if Dan does anything from this.....


Mar 17, 2017, 9:57 PM

Looks like waiting to see if Will Wade says yes before Brad would have to leave. Might have been pushed to Saturday because Wade said yes.

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or pushed because he was turned down as well


Mar 17, 2017, 10:06 PM

geez I'm frustrated with this program....need to see something turn for the good here with basketball.

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They may have inquired through agents


Mar 17, 2017, 10:09 PM [ in reply to Re: be shocked if Dan does anything from this..... ]

but they aren't talking to any coach until a decision is made. Not ethical when someone still has the job

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Re: BKB Update: Radakovich, Brownell to meet Saturday morning


Mar 18, 2017, 9:37 AM

Brad be like you can go ahead and start my payments if you like.
Here's my bank account info

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He is probably imagining where he wants to travel and relax****


Mar 18, 2017, 9:41 AM



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Re: He is probably imagining where he wants to travel and relax****


Mar 18, 2017, 9:43 AM

It must be nice to hit the lotto

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Mar 18, 2017, 1:30 PM

Message removed by Author

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You want to fire an AD who has overseen:


Mar 18, 2017, 1:41 PM

-Two football ACC championships
-Two football national championship appearances
-A football national championship
-A baseball ACC championship
-A soccer ACC championship
-A soccer national championship appearance
-Unprecedented facility upgrades
-Continued success in the classroom for our student-athletes

??

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"All those 'Fire Brownell' guys can kiss it." -Joseph Girard III

"Everybody needs to know that Coach Brownell is arguably the best coach to come through Clemson." -PJ Hall


Re: You want to fire an AD who has overseen:


Mar 18, 2017, 1:42 PM

you got to realize who posted that.

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Excellent point. Plus he just removed his post.***


Mar 18, 2017, 1:45 PM



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"All those 'Fire Brownell' guys can kiss it." -Joseph Girard III

"Everybody needs to know that Coach Brownell is arguably the best coach to come through Clemson." -PJ Hall


nice list... the interesting thing about that list is that


Mar 18, 2017, 1:45 PM [ in reply to You want to fire an AD who has overseen: ]

it would make one think we would be moving on from Brownell.... guess we'll see

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I won't be surprised if Brownell is let go very soon


Mar 18, 2017, 1:53 PM

And if we are going to hire Will Wade, then I am 100% for it. But if he keeps Brad another year, I can understand why. If so, I am confident it will come with significant stipulations.

I can't help but wonder if DRad is forcing Brownell's hand to resign. Otherwise, why have a seemingly urgent Saturday morning meeting? This could have waited until next week or even the week after if this were just a formality.

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"All those 'Fire Brownell' guys can kiss it." -Joseph Girard III

"Everybody needs to know that Coach Brownell is arguably the best coach to come through Clemson." -PJ Hall


I agree with all of that, except understanding why he would


Mar 18, 2017, 2:02 PM

give Brad another year...

I like BB, I think he loves Clemson, and I wish he would have won here....


but I cannot figure out how retaining him would be an option. The results speak for themselves, and there is NOTHING to suggest something changes after 7 years--

I just would not understand that at all

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Re: You want to fire an AD who has overseen:


Mar 18, 2017, 1:52 PM [ in reply to You want to fire an AD who has overseen: ]

Of course not! He's done a great job except for his reluctance to make changes when needed. He kept Leggett one year too long. Now he faces the same situation with Brownell. Extending Brownells contract by one year won't change much. Unless massive improvement comes next year, Brownell is gone anyway. If you were the ad , would you tie your reputation to a failing coach?

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Brownell isn't a failing coach.


Mar 18, 2017, 1:55 PM

He just hasn't been as successful as we all want and expect him to be. He is still well above average in terms of Clemson basketball coaches, in an era where making the NCAAs is very difficult (lots of good teams, strong ACC, etc.).

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"All those 'Fire Brownell' guys can kiss it." -Joseph Girard III

"Everybody needs to know that Coach Brownell is arguably the best coach to come through Clemson." -PJ Hall


how is he above average in terms of Clemson bball coaches?


Mar 18, 2017, 2:03 PM

are we going to look at modern coaches to make this determination... such as Ellis, Barnes, Shyatt, and Purnell? Half the league made the NCAAT this year

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Re: Brownell isn't a failing coach.


Mar 18, 2017, 2:03 PM [ in reply to Brownell isn't a failing coach. ]

Yeah just accept mediocrity

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Re: Brownell isn't a failing coach.


Mar 18, 2017, 2:04 PM [ in reply to Brownell isn't a failing coach. ]

Yeah just accept mediocrity

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Re: Brownell isn't a failing coach.


Mar 18, 2017, 2:31 PM

We will be having this conversation this time next year.

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Re: Brownell isn't a failing coach.


Mar 18, 2017, 4:50 PM

The conversations that we will be having this time next year, will be who is DRad going to hire from the Division 2 loser schools that he can get for about $125,000 a year!!!;)

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Re: BKB Update: Radakovich, Brownell to meet Saturday morning


Mar 18, 2017, 6:28 PM

Brad Browned is a really good mid major coach but not a good P5 coach.

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