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Re: Trump policy plays out and hits close to home
Jan 29, 2017, 8:02 AM
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Troubling
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All-TigerNet [6073]
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Re: Trump policy plays out and hits close to home
Jan 29, 2017, 8:44 AM
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Hey, if she cant come back thats one more job created. Trump da man!
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110%er [3821]
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so let's unveil the liberal hysteria for what it is....
Jan 29, 2017, 8:08 AM
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"no one cares about what will happen to my house" -
banks cannot take back a home under mortgage in 90 days. Fact.
"no one cares about my dog" -
communication hasn't been cancelled obviously, and one hopes after 7 years she has friends. Fact.
So why the hysteria? Why the rhetoric?
Why do liberals always have to over-emphasize emotions
and play the sensationalist media card?
Do you people NOT understand that this tactic continues
to thwart forward movement on real problems for this country?
Until your emotional control gets better
little can be done to move forward to real solutions for this country?
Or do you disagree that the 9/11 terrorists had all lived in this country prior to the attacks?
Or do you disagree that this country has been inundated with illegal immigration for the last 20 years?
Please, go ahead, ignore the facts, wallow in your media-fueled emotional outbursts...
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110%er [9174]
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Amen
Jan 29, 2017, 8:15 AM
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Clemson student or not. She should have done she needed to, to keep from putting herself in this predicment. You CAN'T do what you want sometime.
-Doc
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MVP [549]
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Re: Amen
Jan 29, 2017, 8:18 AM
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Double Amen
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CU Guru [1560]
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Re: Amen
Jan 29, 2017, 12:20 PM
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Oh. You again.
Sigh.
Anonymous Internet bravado.
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Offensive Star [348]
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Re: Amen
Jan 29, 2017, 3:53 PM
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Dummy- she went home. The president changed the rules and now she is stuck. This has nothing to do with what she did or didn't do. Your lack of empathy is sad.
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CU Guru [1552]
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Re: so let's unveil the liberal hysteria for what it is....
Jan 29, 2017, 8:40 AM
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Liberals "over-emphasize emotions"? Are you familiar with the term "hypocrisy"? Conservatives have been playing the fear/anger/outrage card on everything from guns, to abortion, to gay marriage, to the "war on christmas", and everything in between for decades.
Let me help you with some facts:
NONE of the 9/11 hijackers came from the countries that are now banned (for 90 days). None of them. Zero. Nada. Zilch. FACT.
We have not had illegal immigrants from those countries either (at least not like you are accusing them of; they aren't sneaking over borders from 15k miles away). FACT.
What is sad is the number of people with your mindset that are supposedly Christians. Where is your sense of empathy? What would Jesus do? Probably not anything like what you people espouse these days....
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All-American [555]
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Re: so let's unveil the liberal hysteria for what it is....
Jan 29, 2017, 9:01 AM
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"We have not had illegal immigrants from those countries either (at least not like you are accusing them of; they aren't sneaking over borders from 15k miles away). FACT."
I'm not a fan of Trump generally, but how do you know this to be a FACT?
How are you so sure that people from "those countries" who may want to do harm to Americans, haven't flown into Cuba, caught a boat to Mexico, and walked across our porous boarder like so many do every day?
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CU Guru [1552]
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Re: so let's unveil the liberal hysteria for what it is....
Jan 29, 2017, 9:08 AM
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This guy appears to be confused in his fear of brown people. We have millions of undocumented immigrants from across our southern border, not from the middle east.
Statistically, it's likely a safe assumption that there are people from most countries (worldwide) here illegally. And I'm sure there's somebody here that fits the criteria for your specific entry method. But if they are going to that much trouble, let's just say I don't think blocking travel from 7 countries is going to deter them.
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110%er [3821]
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did I say "illegal immigrants" came from Arab countries?
Jan 29, 2017, 10:22 AM
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No.
Please read my comment again and tell me where I specifically said illegal immigrants came from Arab countries.
Or conversely where I said that illegal immigration ONLY came from Mexico.
Or where I said illegal immigration was characterized by people of ONLY or even MOSTLY of people with DARK(ER) skin.
Or where I tied ANY of this to Christ, whom I consider my Savior.
Nor did I even suggest that I agree with Trump's plan, per se, much less all relevant details of the plan.
Nor did I even mention that I did NOT vote for Trump.
My comment was simply to suggest that IMMIGRATION ()as a whole, not just illegal) was a problem that Liberals have not
and quite apparently can not solve.
You're the bigot, sir, not me. You set yourself up by presuming a ton of things that simply are not true -
you let your EMOTIONS run away with you,
which was exactly my point....
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CU Guru [1552]
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Re: did I say "illegal immigrants" came from Arab countries?
Jan 29, 2017, 10:44 AM
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> Please read my comment again and tell me where I specifically said illegal immigrants came from Arab countries.
You're backtracking.
This entire post is regarding the bans from the 7 middle eastern countries.
In your first reply, you said this:
> Or do you disagree that this country has been
> inundated with illegal immigration for the last 20
> years?
So, as the thread is regarding those 7 countries, and you brought up illegal immigration "for the last 20 years", I'm left to assume that's what you are referring to.
Further, you seem to be unaware that there have been no americans killed by people from those 7 countries in the last 20 years. So what, exactly, is this "security measure" helping?
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Re: did I say "illegal immigrants" came from Arab countries?
Jan 29, 2017, 12:24 PM
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If Christ is your savior and you follow the gospel, please expound on why/how you support Trump and how Trump is a man of faith and worth following.
He is the antithesis of a man who espouses Jesus' teachings.
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Jan 29, 2017, 11:31 AM
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Save your breath , One thing Trumpers all have in common is they cannot see two sides of a issue. And if you present indisputable facts, you're just called a Liberal or an atheist
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110%er [3821]
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"immigration" as I stated has nothing to do with specific
Jan 29, 2017, 10:28 AM
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countries nor specific races.
In fact I explicitly noted that the 9/11 hijackers
HAD ALL lived in this country.
I don't necessarily support Trump and didn't vote for him.
My point was LIBERAL EXTREMISM, RHETORIC, and BIGOTRY.
They think they can't be bigoted or violent -
which is why they are even MORE bigoted than 1830's slave owners.
1830's slave owners suffered under the lack of eduction, poor scientific knowledge about DNA
and it's paths across the globe, and a European tendency towards Aristocratic structures.
Post-Vietnam Liberals show themselves every day to be simply too arrogant to gain self-perspective,
regardless their "education".
They are the bigots now...
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CU Guru [1552]
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Re: "immigration" as I stated has nothing to do with specific
Jan 29, 2017, 10:47 AM
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You're clearly delusional.
Of course liberals (and every other large labeled group, including conservatives, libertarians, christians, muslims, etc) has bigots, and has members that are prone to violence. And then to somehow equate "liberals" with slave owners is just downright ridiculous. Rewriting history much?
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National Champion [7928]
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Re: "immigration" as I stated has nothing to do with specific
Jan 29, 2017, 12:15 PM
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The 9/11 hijackers did not "live" in this country. You need to check your facts. They came to this country for a time to train for the plot. A specific intent from before they came here. That is NOT "living" in this country. They were part of Al-Qaeda, started in the Sudan, but have strong ties to all of the listed countries. If anything, this 90 day ban does not go far enough.
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110%er [3821]
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and so it's not Iranian money
Jan 29, 2017, 10:37 AM
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that continues to flaunt nuclear aspirations in the Mideast?
that continues to support anti-Israeli diatribe, undermining again and again a possible peace in the Middle East?
that supports - and has supported from Day 1 - continued violent insurgency in Iraq?
that supports continued civil war in Syria?
that supports fanatical Shi'ite Islamic teachings across the globe in places as far flung as Beirut, the West Bank, Southeast Asia, Malaysia, and the Phillipines?
You people are purely liberal American media driven lemmings....
You will believe anything that post-modern socialists can dream up.
Please tell me when the Vietnam War will be over...
please tell me when the ghost of Tricky #### Nixon will no longer haunt this country....
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Asst Coach [817]
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--Alternative Facts
Jan 29, 2017, 10:48 AM
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Iran is allied with and supporting the majority Shia government of Iraq, not funding the insurgency. Stop watching Faux News
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Varsity [104]
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Can you just admit that you want this country to look like a Trump rally?
Jan 29, 2017, 10:50 AM
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And give me a break about liberals being emotional. Conservatives in this country almost always make decisions on how they feel, not with facts.
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National Champion [7522]
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By that you mean everyone in USA loves this country?***
Jan 29, 2017, 11:58 AM
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CU Medallion [20842]
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Hysteria is an equal opportunity malady affecting
Jan 15, 2015, 9:49 PM
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anyone with extreme views on either side of the political spectrum - particularly those who limit their news and information intake to select and slanted sources, unwilling, or unable, to study competing points of view to ferret out a more balanced take on the reality at hand.
With Twitter not allowing room for context - only sensation - we are subject to being further dumbed down as a society 140 characters or less at a time, and ever more prone to emotional reactions rather than sensible ones to the world as it unfolds.
Go Tigers!
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CU Guru [1560]
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Re: so let's unveil the liberal hysteria for what it is....
Jan 29, 2017, 12:19 PM
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Egads the bubble you live in is oxygen deprived or the bubbles have moved into your bloodstream and in your brain. You suffer from the bends as in bending reality and facts to skew toward your needs.
Ignorance is a choice.
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Re: so let's unveil the liberal hysteria for what it is....
Jan 29, 2017, 1:50 PM
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As a relatively conservative guy who typically votes republican, I can't speak for liberal (democratic) emotionalism, nor can I speak for conservative (republican) emotionalism. I saw a LOT of both in the most recent election. Both parties' rhetoric seemed to appeal to fear and hate.
I like the idea of controlling immigration and was hopeful that Trump may help on that front, but this policy strikes me as something to appease rather than actually accomplish anything.
As far as I know, this woman was here legally, as I suspect most are who live in this country, visit their home countries and return. Afterall, passpot control in an airport is the LAST place an illegal immigrant would want to find themselves.
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Orange Blooded [2490]
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Re: so let's unveil the liberal hysteria for what it is....
Jan 29, 2017, 2:05 PM
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Yes, the 9/11 terrorists all lived in this country prior to the attack. None were from the countries on the "blocked" list. I suppose I would buy this policy as something other than appeasement if that weren't so. Seems based on emotion to me.
This is embarassing to me because our government allowed her to come here and live here. In return, she has been productive, followed the rules and improved herself. Now, seemingly arbitrarily, our government is telling her that she can't come home because she is in Iran. Seems bizarre. Trumpesque.
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Rival Killer [2814]
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even more embarrassing, he initiated this without
Jan 29, 2017, 8:12 AM
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bothering to run it past any of the directors of the agencies that were going to be enforcing it, which means that he endangered national security by leaving the folks responsible for maintaining it having to screen thousands of people who have already been stringently vetted. I would also point out that 19 hijackers from Saudi Arabia killed 3,500 people on 9/11, and yet miraculously, Saudi Arabia is not part of the Muslim ban, nor any other Muslim-majority nation that does business with Trump or has a Trump resort or golf course.
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110%er [3821]
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yes, it was his golf courses that Trump sought to save...
Jan 29, 2017, 8:37 AM
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lol -
So please explain the countless improvements in National Security
that Liberal Immigration policy has created
since those 3500 people were in fact murdered in cold blood.
You see, Obama had 8 years to make things better
and all he did was try to recreate France on this side of the Atlantic.
Jesus and Mary - will you people please come up with a plan
to split this country in two?
We do NOT want to live under your Liberal tyranny....
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CU Guru [1552]
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Re: yes, it was his golf courses that Trump sought to save...
Jan 29, 2017, 8:43 AM
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You're still a moron, clearly.
The executive order blocks entry from Syria, Iraq, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and Yemen.
The 9/11 hijackers are from Saudi Arabia, UAE, Egypt, and Lebanon.
See the problem here?
Trump banned a whole bunch of countries he has no business interests in, in the name of "national security", and conveniently left out the countries where the actual attackers came from. Never mind the fact that he has business interests in at least 3 of those countries (Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and UAE).
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CU Guru [1482]
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Re: yes, it was his golf courses that Trump sought to save...
Jan 29, 2017, 8:47 AM
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> You're still a moron, clearly.
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That's about all that need be said. The rest is talking to a rock.
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110%er [3821]
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you're apparently too emotional to read....
Jan 29, 2017, 10:40 AM
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so I choose not argue with you.
I've already stated this isn't about 9/11 -
my original post never intimated that in any way -
and yet you can't get off the point because
you're overly emotional and bigoted.
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CU Guru [1552]
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Re: you're apparently too emotional to read....
Jan 29, 2017, 10:48 AM
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You brought up 3500 dead americans, clearly a reference to 9/11.
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National Champion [7928]
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Rival Killer [2814]
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Re: yes, it was his golf courses that Trump sought to save...
Jan 29, 2017, 12:29 PM
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"lol -
So please explain the countless improvements in National Security
that Liberal Immigration policy has created
since those 3500 people were in fact murdered in cold blood."
You mean like the fact that the biggest mass terrorist attack in this country since that time was one of your colleagues in Charleston killing black parishioners in a white supremacist slaughter?
Oh, and....lol.
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Rival Killer [2814]
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shhh.....adults speaking.
Jan 29, 2017, 9:20 AM
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go play with yourself while the grown-ups converse.
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110%er [6662]
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Re: Trump policy plays out and hits close to home
Jan 29, 2017, 8:13 AM
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Embarrassing how? That she is a victim of breaking the law? Ok.
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CU Guru [1552]
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Re: Trump policy plays out and hits close to home
Jan 29, 2017, 9:09 AM
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What law did she break?
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Re: Trump policy plays out and hits close to home
Jan 29, 2017, 8:13 AM
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This is a sports board.
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110%er [3729]
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Liberal immigration policy plays out and hits close to home
Jan 29, 2017, 8:35 AM
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nothing more to see here. Run with bad immigration policy for 20+ years and its not going to be easy to fix what had played out. Tough ####.
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110%er [6821]
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You've got to crack a few eggs to make an omelette...
Jan 29, 2017, 8:40 AM
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The new policy is something that should have been done years ago and is consistent with existing federal immigration law. The backlash now is caused by years of the Obama-Bush-Clinton administrations failing to effectively enforce that law. This is NOT a Democrat/Republican issue, it is a national sovereignty issue.
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Rival Killer [2814]
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Re: You've got to crack a few eggs to make an omelette...
Jan 29, 2017, 9:31 AM
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most famously said by Robespierre before he launched the Reign of Terror that led to 1.5 million French being exterminated. By the way, you sound like a fascist in your initial post. Was that your intent, or do you just not know any better?
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110%er [6821]
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Man, you leftists have got to get over it and accept...
Jan 29, 2017, 3:27 PM
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...the FACT that Donald John Trump is the President of the United States of America.
On the scale of grief stages, your post puts you squarely here:
Denial
Anger<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Bargaining
Depression
Acceptance
You need to "MoveOn"...
And, since you asked, no, I'm not a Fascist. I am a Constitutional Conservative which, by its nature, makes me not a big government authoritarian (like Obola). You cannot be a Fascist if you are not a big government authoritarian. I believe in maximum decentralization of authority, separation of powers, and checks and balances.
Have you ever heard this phrase before "The President shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed"? This is the clause from the U.S. Constitution that your hero Barack Obola craftily dodged when he used his "pen and phone" to write two executive orders that were directly contrary to federal immigration law (DAPA and DACA).
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Re: You've got to crack a few eggs to make an omelette...
Jan 29, 2017, 1:32 PM
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I'm assuming your omelet is all whites?
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Dynasty Maker [3317]
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Did she think about applying for citizenship? Student visas
Jan 29, 2017, 8:46 AM
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are not indefinite...
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Asst Coach [817]
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She has a job in Greenville, that means
Jan 29, 2017, 11:02 AM
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a work visa. First step to permanent residency before citizenship. It takes many years unless you get picked in the "lottery."
Aside: She has to be very, very talented to get that job immediately after graduation, and the company had to demonstrate that there wasn't a citizen available with her qualifications. Plus, the NSF funded her PhD. We need to retain people like her because citizens don't come close to meeting the R&D needs in the US. Science & technology requires immigration, or we will fall far behind.
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Letterman [159]
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Re: Trump policy plays out and hits close to home
Jan 29, 2017, 8:51 AM
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You progressive/liberals need to go fall in a hole.......suck it !
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Trainer [29]
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Re: Trump policy plays out and hits close to home
Jan 29, 2017, 1:40 PM
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So you prefer other countries to get the worlds most talented individuals?
I guess trump and his supporters would really get their way. The US manufacturing all the cheap crap with very low margins.
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All-TigerNet [14233]
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Mike Pence for President***
Jan 29, 2017, 8:58 AM
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MVP [548]
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Re: Mike Pence for President***
Jan 29, 2017, 9:06 AM
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That is what's going to end up happening...probably sooner than later.
It needs to be sooner.
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Letterman [159]
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Re: Mike Pence for President***
Jan 29, 2017, 9:14 AM
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Why don't you (Leftneck) go find your 'safe space'.......or be a man for a change.
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MVP [548]
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Re: Mike Pence for President***
Jan 29, 2017, 9:32 AM
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You are talking to a 6-year Army vet who served this country domestically and abroad. Son of a Vietnam vet. Used my GI Bill to attend Clemson University.
What have you done lately?
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Offensive Star [348]
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Rival Killer [2814]
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Pence is a former radio host and is at least as nuts as
Jan 29, 2017, 9:32 AM
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Trump is. Don't be fooled. He's Trump with better hair. He's still the nitwit who tried to force women in Indiana to pay for funeral costs for miscarriages.
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MVP [548]
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Re: Pence is a former radio host and is at least as nuts as
Jan 29, 2017, 9:58 AM
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This is true.
But sadly, he still is the more stable of the two.
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Scout Team [178]
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Re: Mike Pence for President***
Jan 29, 2017, 9:13 AM
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Give it 8 years of Trump, Tiger Woods, then you will get your wish !!!!!!
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Clemson Sports Icon [55380]
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Oh well. MAGA.***
Jan 29, 2017, 9:04 AM
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CU Guru [1327]
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If having a freaking heart and caring about
Jan 29, 2017, 9:25 AM
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a fellow Clemson grad in such a ridiculous and terrible predicament makes me some hated liberal, then hate away. Trump is showing daily that he is not Presidential. He is unqualified, and the WORLD is against him and therefore us.
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CU Guru [1327]
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I guess President Clements is a d@mn liberal
Jan 29, 2017, 9:29 AM
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too. He should have stated "All of our foreign students from the banned countries should feel free to leave. We hope you enjoyed your time here, and we will send pictures of each class reunion."
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Valley Legend [12417]
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Perhaps this is the impetus that the Middle East
Jan 29, 2017, 9:56 AM
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And Europe needs to finally stand up to terrorism.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
What were we doing before trump besides waiting for America to become France.
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Tiger Titan [48079]
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Good men have been doing tons for years vs terrorism*****
Jan 29, 2017, 10:41 AM
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Clemson Conqueror [11406]
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Both Boston Bombers were on student visas
Jan 29, 2017, 10:45 AM
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...come to think of it, so were 9/11 terrorists.
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Paw Master [17178]
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Re: Trump policy plays out and hits close to home
Jan 29, 2017, 10:49 AM
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No one is above the law. Why have borders and why have an Immigration department IF you don't enforce borders. Become legal and then travel. Plain and simple.
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Tiger Titan [48079]
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I don't think that is the issue.
Jan 29, 2017, 10:53 AM
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What about when they have a valid visa and they just went to visit their family abroad? Should we not let them return?
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Starter [262]
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Love it!!!
Jan 29, 2017, 12:10 PM
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I for one am glad to see other Liberals fighting back on this thread. Any conservative that calls himself a Christian and support 45's Executive Order ..call yourself something else. This is not Christian Like or American. We have a lot of people calling themselves Patriots but dont hold up to the ideals of what being an American is all about.
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Orange Elite [5508]
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I don't think of myself as a liberal
Jan 29, 2017, 12:33 PM
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But I also like to think I'm not an idiot.
Our country was in need of major surgery before the last election. Our choices came down to a doctor who treated every problem with aroma therapy and coloring books and a doctor who only operates with a chain saw.
I wished then and I wish now that we had had a choice who knew how to use a scalpel.
And no, I am definitely NOT talking about Ben Carson. Every time I hear him talk I suspect he has used the scalpel on himself and it didn't work out well.
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Orange Blooded [2585]
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Re: Graduation invalidates a STUDENT visa unless..
Jan 29, 2017, 5:11 PM
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the applicant applies for further education.
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110%er [7714]
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people are quick to forget Carter did
Jan 29, 2017, 12:32 PM
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Same thing in banning Iranian immigrants in 1980. Hardly think of Carter and Trumps political leanings as same but it happened.
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Orange Elite [5508]
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Carter's actions probably fell short of the mark
Jan 29, 2017, 12:39 PM
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because there was a definite cause and effect in his action. The new Iranian government had in fact, carried out what was arguably an act of war against our country.
For Carter's action to be same as Trump's, however, he would have had to ban Egyptian nationals from coming to the US instead of Iranians.
The 9/11 terrorists came here from Saudi Arabia. Guess who isn't on Trump's list?
Also, did Carter's ban include people who were already legal residents of this country and completely innocent of any crime?
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Legend [6940]
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Re: Trump policy plays out and hits close to home
Jan 29, 2017, 1:04 PM
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Why in the world did she go to Iran After she knew the ban was going into effect???
She states that "everything she worked for the last 7 years is gone", Well, actually, No. She was working to receive her PhD for 7 years, she received it and still has it! No one is taking that away.
I hope this temporary ban will be refined and the 100+ still being questioned will be resolved soon. The USA needs a better system to protect our citizens as well as those immigrants truly needing refuge.
We are a caring and compassionate country. ??
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110%er [3660]
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Re: Trump policy plays out and hits close to home
Jan 29, 2017, 1:04 PM
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What exactly is embarrassing?
We are at war!!! We did not start the war, radical Islamist started the war!
During times of war a nation takes steps to protect its citizens .
Just because someone graduated from Clemson does not exclude them from the law!
Liberals and millennials and snowflakes wake up!!
Islam wants to kill anyone who is not one of them.!!!!!!
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Trainer [29]
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Re: Trump policy plays out and hits close to home
Jan 29, 2017, 1:23 PM
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I wasn't with you until I your last exclamation mark caused me to wake up.
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Trainer [29]
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Jan 29, 2017, 1:21 PM
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I really don't get Trumps supporters. Most live in rural areas.
Why on earth are people living in rural areas afraid of terrorists.
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Associate AD [819]
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Cuz the Mooselims already have taken
Jan 29, 2017, 1:29 PM
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over them big city folk! Obviously the next stop is BFE rural America! C'mon, man! Heil, Trump!
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Valley Protector [1407]
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Jan 29, 2017, 1:47 PM
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It's a sad time in America. The most disgusting displays are from those who are against refugees but have the nerve to say their position is based in their Christianity. It's a slap in the face of everything Christ stood for.
Jesus was very concerned with refugees and you are to help your fellow man even if it compromises your safety (which it doesn't).
America is at a point of reckoning. Refugees (78% of whom are women and children who have no means to defend themselves against genocide) will be left to die in places like Syria. Don't speak out against refugees if you wouldn't have the guts to put a gun to a child's head and pull the trigger yourself. You'll be judged no differently for doing it yourself vs. sitting idly by while it is done by others.
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Orange Elite [5508]
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They came for the Iranians and I said nothing
Jan 29, 2017, 2:42 PM
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Because I was not an Iranian.
With apologies to Rev Martin Niemoller
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Associate AD [1033]
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Re: Trump policy plays out and hits close to home
Jan 29, 2017, 2:27 PM
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Thank goodness we finally have policies that do "hit close to home".
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Asst Coach [855]
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Jan 29, 2017, 2:40 PM
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It's disgusting. Unfortunately many on this board would only care if she were a 5 star recruit.
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Tiger Titan [48079]
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Or a non Muslim.
Jan 29, 2017, 3:02 PM
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It really all comes down to the fact that the people who don't care about this young lady, who is a peaceful, Clemson grad, and who is part of the community, they really don't care because she is a Muslim. The only word that matters to them is "Muslim". The conversation stops there.
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Starter [262]
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We are at war?
Jan 29, 2017, 3:10 PM
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GTFOH... if we are then why continue to fund Islamic Countries like Saudi Arabia. I will be blunt. Trump supporters are dumb..they ront take the time to research anything..and any data they discredit not with more data..they discredit with a Trump talking point. If we are at war and we keep giving Saudi Money...you know the hijackers on 9/11 were Saudis! Lets not be nice Trump supporters are the most scared people on the planet. And that fear leads to electing people who capitalize on that fear ..all the while knowimg that this idiot will cause more havoc on us across the world.
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Tiger Titan [48079]
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I just think they tried to oversimplify a..
Jan 29, 2017, 3:21 PM
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complicated issue.
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Athletic Dir [1135]
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FYI, she is here completely legally.
Jan 29, 2017, 3:35 PM
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Dr. Zinouri is here legally, 100%. She is on an F-1 Visa, and was granted Optional Practical Training (OPT), which allows her to work in the USA after graduation. She did NOT overstay her visa. Her company legally hired her. She is in violation of absolutely no law whatsoever.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optional_Practical_Training
Some of you are assuming that she overstayed her visa because it says "student visa" and she graduated. I know that's confusing, but in fact the OPT route is what a great many international students do after they graduate. So her case is not the least bit unusual, it's not something where she's violating a rule that we're just now enforcing...none of that.
Dr. Zinouri is also a proud Clemson graduate. I hope you'll consider having some compassion for one of our own, regardless of your politics. She simply left to see her family for a few days and wanted to come back to her job and life here.
Thanks for reading. I feel like I have to stand up for a fellow Tiger here.
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Tiger Titan [48079]
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But she is Muslim. *****
Jan 29, 2017, 3:38 PM
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All-TigerNet [5912]
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Tiger Titan [48079]
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You'll figure it out. It's not that complicated.*****
Jan 29, 2017, 3:40 PM
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Gridiron Giant [16022]
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Re: FYI, she is here completely legally.
Jan 29, 2017, 4:08 PM
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I hope and pray she can return to The USA SOON and obtain citizenship in the near future. I'm proud of what she has accomplished and wish her the best.
I am also in favor of tightening our borders and in doing so, some toes will be stepped on.
GOD, PLEASE BLESS AMERICA
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All-TigerNet [10402]
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Re: Trump policy plays out and hits close to home
Jan 29, 2017, 5:06 PM
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Just like the taxes I pay every year some people have to suffer for the better of the Country.
You see I have worked my whole life and been blessed with good jobs.
So I have to pay for people that are not worth a chit and will not work.
This is the same principle not everyone's going to be happy but some stuff has to be done .
Protecting our borders is much more important than the inconvenience this lady is going through.
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