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Tar Hole Swoffy--
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Tar Hole Swoffy--


Jun 4, 2015, 1:27 PM

SO any chance that with enough digging that Swoffy could be implicated in any of the shenanigans at UNC? Think any of that was in place when he was AD??

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yes, he was AD when it all began, but @tarheeledtiger


Jun 4, 2015, 1:35 PM

will try to tell you that the real cheating didn't start until he was serving as Commish...He will also say there was no cover-up by Swofford

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Bless tarheeedtigers little heart


Jun 4, 2015, 1:37 PM

hope he can breathe with his head that far down in the sand

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I would imagine it's gonna be a while before we hear from


Jun 4, 2015, 1:48 PM

him again

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He'll be back..


Jun 4, 2015, 2:15 PM

Still doesnt think they did anything wrong. Already heard this quote from a tarbaby at lunch--

" You can take the banner but you wont take the joy i felt being there when we won it "

Dude, you cheated to get it. You didnt win a thing

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I hope so, I have plenty of questions for him to ignore***


Jun 4, 2015, 6:36 PM



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Careful going down that slope


Jun 4, 2015, 6:39 PM [ in reply to He'll be back.. ]

I know what we did in the 80's doesn't even compare to the total scam that UNC has pulled, but we got sanctions for our title in 81. I still like to think we won it.

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apples and oranges***


Jun 5, 2015, 12:21 PM



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sorry to disapoint you


Jun 8, 2015, 12:41 PM [ in reply to I would imagine it's gonna be a while before we hear from ]

just back from vacation.. got in late last night

only took time to respond to a few emails and didn't even look here for the last 9 days

haven't had a chance to read the NOA yet and will probably be a couple more days before i'm caught up at work

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disappoint


Jun 8, 2015, 12:45 PM

still a sloppy typist... especially on the lap top at lunch : )

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I'll wait, something tells me it will be worth it***


Jun 8, 2015, 12:56 PM [ in reply to sorry to disapoint you ]



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And I was right, these denials are priceless***


Jun 10, 2015, 1:38 PM



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still looking for evidence of any cover-up


Jun 10, 2015, 10:23 AM [ in reply to yes, he was AD when it all began, but @tarheeledtiger ]

that involved Swofford

there sure isn't any in the NOA... or the Wainstein report... or the Martin report

but somehow, i doubt the complete lack of evidence matters to you

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Find any Lack of Institutional Control yet?***


Jun 10, 2015, 12:49 PM



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the NCAA did


Jun 10, 2015, 1:33 PM

and that's all that matters

does that make you feel all warm and fuzzy?

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so I was right?***


Jun 10, 2015, 1:38 PM



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with what?


Jun 10, 2015, 1:41 PM

i'm sure you think you were and again, i'm sure that's all that matters to you.

you seem to think you're better informed than the folks who run the ACC; NCAA too?

you are amusing, i will give you that

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Which one of us said unCHEAT was guilty of Lack of


Jun 10, 2015, 1:47 PM

Institutional Control? Which one of us tried to deny wrongdoing?

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Re: Tar Hole Swoffy--AMFam was just an online course


Jun 4, 2015, 1:39 PM

hence no meetings. Of course the fact that it began 5 years before there were on line courses could be a problem

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Re: Tar Hole Swoffy--AMFam was just an online course


Jun 4, 2015, 1:47 PM

UNC with the largest cheating scandal in the history of the NCAA. Wonder if Swoffy will add more penalties after they come out. Multiple programs involved in multiple departments. Fake classes and forged signatures galore. A's given to keep players eligible. Head of their ethics department was a ring leader.

Meanwhile Roy did not know anything.

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nope


Jun 10, 2015, 10:21 AM

finally had a chance to read the stuff last night... nearly over my vacation jet-lag :)

the NCAA NOA only deals with stuff that happened from 2002 through 2011 - although it does make one reference to the scheme lasting 18 years

what you have to remember is that the first few years of the scheme (when Swofford was AD), it was a very small deal. it was pretty much one misguided administrative person, Crowder, who was working for a very lax department chair, and abusing the system.

pretty hard to place any blame on the AD for that. it's not the AD's job to monitor 70 academic departments and more than 3,000 faculty.

after about 1999, when she actually started creating classes and inserting them into the system as lecture classes when they were paper-only, you get what can accurately be called an institutional problem.

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deny deny deny deny deny deny deny***


Jun 10, 2015, 12:50 PM



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nothing to deny but your baseless allegations


Jun 10, 2015, 1:32 PM

come back when you have any shred of competent evidence

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you're the ONLY one who thinks unCHEAT is innocent***


Jun 10, 2015, 1:40 PM



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show me where i've made that claim


Jun 10, 2015, 1:42 PM

your specious conflation of Swofford and UNC is laughable

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You don't think you should give back your tainted title


Jun 10, 2015, 1:45 PM

because you don't think playing with ineligible players was a violation

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Still waiting on that simple Yes or No***


Jun 10, 2015, 2:03 PM



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still looking and waiting for evidence against Swofford


Jun 10, 2015, 1:59 PM [ in reply to deny deny deny deny deny deny deny*** ]

.... crickets....

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it's been fun, but


Jun 10, 2015, 2:01 PM

i really have to get back to work

i'll check back in tonight to see if you've come up with anything

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do you think the players who participated in the sham


Jun 10, 2015, 2:05 PM

should have remained eligible? Yes or no?

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Still waiting on that yes or no answer


Jun 10, 2015, 2:04 PM [ in reply to still looking and waiting for evidence against Swofford ]

for over a week

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this thread is about Swofford


Jun 10, 2015, 4:36 PM [ in reply to deny deny deny deny deny deny deny*** ]

and it appears you continue to think he was part of the scheme and/or a cover-up, despite the complete lack of evidence

when you find something, let me know

we'll discuss your other rants in the other thread

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keep your head in the sand as long as you want***


Jun 10, 2015, 5:07 PM



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maybe you should pull yours out of


Jun 10, 2015, 8:22 PM

whatever #### it's stuck in?

still looking for some evidence implicating Swofford

when you find some, start a new thread, 'cause this one has run it's course

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