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FB Update: Dabo Swinney on Stoudt, Watson


Posted: Sep 3, 2014 10:52 AM
 

 
Dabo Swinney on Stoudt, Watson

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But he has to play well***


Posted: Sep 3, 2014 10:55 AM
 

Just had to throw that in there didnt ya dabo


Re: But he has to play well***


Posted: Sep 3, 2014 12:39 PM
 

Hhmm, does Stoudt have to play well? Why single out Watson with that comment?


Re: FB Update: Dabo Swinney on Stoudt, Watson

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Posted: Sep 3, 2014 10:56 AM
 

Well coach one of these QBs will start distancing their selves from the other.Its your job to put the right one on the field.


Re: FB Update: Dabo Swinney on Stoudt, Watson


Posted: Sep 3, 2014 11:29 AM
 

No worries, Watson will get more playing time, Next year if Bryant don't beat him out in spring ball;) But look for Dabo's praises of we have good QB competition out there between the QBs. They will have to push each other during summer work outs, and maybe they will be some separation between them when fall practice gets here, and we can name a starter then to get the snaps in fall practice. What is the over/under of how many times we will hear this from Dabo after the spring game. And Nick Schuessler will be Watsons back up next season.


Re: FB Update: Dabo Swinney on Stoudt, Watson


Posted: Sep 3, 2014 11:36 AM
 

I remember the same tension with Parker/Boyd. I desperately wanted to see Boyd in there but Parker always did just enough to keep it.


even with the across the body throws to the opposite side of

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Posted: Sep 3, 2014 11:45 AM
 

the field....lol


and badly bruised ribs***

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Re: FB Update: Dabo Swinney on Stoudt, Watson


Posted: Sep 3, 2014 2:13 PM
 

That is the very reason he is handling this the way that he is. As they compete BOTH will get better. It's called coaching.


good job DS






ds1


The 2 Headed QB Throughout The Season Is A Disease


Posted: Sep 3, 2014 11:07 AM
 

This thing will always create divisions within the team and fans.
Then when its all figured out,
there's only about 3 or 4 games
left in the season. Kind of leaves
you wondering what might have
happened if the whole team is on
one accord.


Agree


Posted: Sep 3, 2014 11:17 AM
 

Doesnt accomplish anything, except to admit that we are forfeiting a season in hopes of prep'ing for next year.

Either Cole plays and we are average (8-4), or we roll the dice and expect greatness.


"If you have two QB's you have no QB"***


Posted: Sep 3, 2014 11:22 AM
 




Re: "If you have two QB's you have no QB"***

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Posted: Sep 3, 2014 11:30 AM
 

While I largely agree, we don't know if Watson is capable of effectively leading the team TODAY.

We clearly weren't going to win the Georgia game with either at the helm, every down.

While I hate having two QB's, it is too early to give up on Stoudt, just to give Watson repetitions in order to be better prepared for next year. We are probably looking at 9-3 or 8-4 under any scenario.

If Stoudt gives us the best chance to win now, we should stick with him on most drives. But if we don't win anyway - say we take a bad loss or don't pick up a big early win (Louisville), then we should accept that we are coming up short this year and hand things over to Watson.


Re: "If you have two QB's you have no QB"***


Posted: Sep 3, 2014 11:31 AM
 

Dabo himself has said that.


We have one and his last name is Watson***

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i agree, may be coincidence but we did very little offensive


Posted: Sep 3, 2014 11:43 AM
 

ly against jawga once they flipped qbs.


I'm telling you guys...

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Posted: Sep 3, 2014 11:35 AM
 

You all are making a mountain out of a mole hill. Coaches have it figured out, As well, both QB's know their rolls. Plus, I would rather CS play behind our OL right now than DW.

You guys reading tea leaves.


Re: FB Update: Dabo Swinney on Stoudt, Watson

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Posted: Sep 3, 2014 12:15 PM
 

I don't agree with this reading Tea leaves thing......... I saw a freshman QB walk out onto the field was firmly in command and threw an NFL pro level TD pass on his first drive ever........ah.....Cole didn't do that! lol actually it was dink and dunk or qb draw. I know a couple of passes got dropped for Cole but.......simply put Watson looks that good straight out of the crib what happens after a few games firmly at the helm......He might be better than FSU QB & we have him on the bench. That's my only point... It's the eyeball test. I saw an NFL type qb in infant form...I'm not talking Geno smith or Tajh Boyd I mean like a real NFL QB. I know it sounds mean and all but he just played better and had the same spice as we are used to while he was on the field... with COLE I felt we were running an alternative version of GTECH boring Offense but with bubble screens and qb draws...way to predictable!


Watson: 2/4 (50%). Stoudt: 16/29 (55%) w/ multiple drops.

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Posted: Sep 3, 2014 12:50 PM
 

Both QBs threw some good passes and bad passes. Stoudt had a couple of perfect passes dropped. Watson threw a completely uncatchable ball into the dirt. Since Watson only had 4 pass attempts (50% completions), I'm not sure why you're so certain that Watson is better than Stoudt.

Watson's TD pass was NFL-caliber, but I don't know whether that was lucky or he can do that every time. Unlike Dabo in his early HC days, Morris has shown that he'll play more-talented youth over less-talented seniority, so I'm not sure why you think you know better about all aspects of their playing ability than the high-motivated OC who watched them play all through spring and summer.

If the 2 QBs are equivalent, then I'd say play Watson. I just don't know which QB was more qualified to take the helm in week 1 based on what I saw in week 1. So I'll defer to Morris.


78% of Cole's passes were bubble screens...

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Posted: Sep 3, 2014 1:00 PM
 

All of Watson's passes were vertical. Of course you're going to have a higher completion percentage throwing confidence building bubble screens the whole 2nd half. Watson gives us our best chance to win, and I believe he should start.


100% of play calls were made by Morris, not Stoudt or Watson***


Posted: Sep 3, 2014 1:02 PM
 




Coach Morris doesn't trust Cole to run the full offense...***


Posted: Sep 3, 2014 1:04 PM
 




Re: Coach Morris doesn't trust Cole to run the full offense...***


Posted: Sep 3, 2014 1:14 PM
 

and you know this how.


By Coach Morris' admission to conservative play calling in..


Posted: Sep 3, 2014 2:42 PM
 

the 2nd half.

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Re: 100% of play calls were made by Morris, not Stoudt or Watson***


Posted: Sep 3, 2014 1:13 PM
 

wrong again, watson checked into the play that we scored on to peake. just a small detail i know. and quite sure cole checked into a different play a time or 2.


Stoudt can't throw the ball in the middle of the field...


Posted: Sep 3, 2014 1:09 PM
 

he can only throw to the sidelines. He looks confused when passing in the middle of the field.

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46% of all stats are made up on the spot***


Posted: Sep 3, 2014 2:31 PM
 




2 drops that had no effect on the outcome of the game***


Posted: Sep 3, 2014 1:08 PM
 



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2 drops stalled drive, maybe cost pts & helped fatigue our D


Posted: Sep 3, 2014 1:36 PM
 

It's absurd to say that those 2 drops didn't affect the outcome of the game. You have no way of knowing that, and it defies common sense to think that sustaining a drive is irrelevant. If that drive had been sustained, we could have possibly scored points, quelled the crowd, swung the momentum, given the O confidence, and changed Pruitt's game-plan. At a bare minimum it would have helped flip the field instead of giving UGA the ball at their #$%@ing 47 yard line!


We came back and scored after those 2 drops...


Posted: Sep 3, 2014 2:39 PM
 

The 2 drops were in the first half by Williams. The defense wasn't fatigued in the first half. The defense become fatigued in the 3rd qtr when the offense couldn't move the ball.

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both would have been first downs


Posted: Sep 3, 2014 1:45 PM
 

and one of them came on a third down with a chance to extend the drive and have good position...


Yeah and after those two drops we came back and took the...


Posted: Sep 3, 2014 2:40 PM
 

lead.

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How about changes on the KO and punt return teams?


Posted: Sep 3, 2014 12:26 PM
 

Lets get some speed and talent back there running them back. Green isnt cutting it.


Or, let's just not leave the middle of the field so wide


Posted: Sep 3, 2014 12:41 PM
 

open that grandma could get thru with her walker.

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I said the return team, not the coverage team


Posted: Sep 5, 2014 9:10 AM
 

I want more speed and skill back there returning kicks.

But, yea, we definitely need to practice more coverage, that was horrible.


I think everyone is forgetting that the next series after Watson threw the TD

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Posted: Sep 3, 2014 12:33 PM
 

Cole came in and lead the team down the field for another


What else did Cole do after that drive?***

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Posted: Sep 3, 2014 1:02 PM
 




After his TD, Watson ran 2/6yds, completed 0/1, sacked twice


Posted: Sep 3, 2014 1:17 PM
 

It's not like Watson did any better than Stoudt in the 2nd half.


What about Cole's INT, happy feet, and short arming passes?***

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Posted: Sep 3, 2014 1:19 PM
 




What about Watson's pathetic stats above?***


Posted: Sep 3, 2014 1:21 PM
 




So Cole's 22.5 QBR isn't pathetic?


Posted: Sep 3, 2014 1:27 PM
 

Cole Stoudt 16/29 144 5.0 0 1 22.5
Deshaun Watson 2/4 59 14.8 1 0 82.6


OL was pathetic, WRs had drops, so both QBs looked bad.


Posted: Sep 3, 2014 1:46 PM
 

Considering that, in the 2nd half, Watson ran twice for 6 yards, passed once for an incompletion, and got sacked twice consecutively, I'm not sure what makes people think that he would have done so much better than Stoudt.

I also don't understand why people think they know better than the OC who watched them play all spring and summer.


Only 2 drops in the game***


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Re: What else did Cole do after that drive?***


Posted: Sep 3, 2014 1:33 PM
 

Lead the team on another drive that we should have came away with 3 points


actually we should have had a TD on that drive***


Posted: Sep 3, 2014 2:43 PM
 



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Would Stoudt have led that drive if Watson didn't come in...


Posted: Sep 3, 2014 1:11 PM
 

The inability to move the ball started in the first half before Watson got in.

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Who knows?


Posted: Sep 3, 2014 1:32 PM
 

But people are acting like once Cole came back in the offense came to halt when in reality Cole lead the offense just fine with a scoring drive and another drive that should resulted in a FG.


I'm sure our coaches know best, BUT how is it that

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Posted: Sep 3, 2014 12:40 PM
 

UGA can have true freshmen RBs ready to run all over us in the first game, yet we can't have a guy (Gallman) prepared to contribute one iota after a full year in the system? Yeah I know, hostile environment blah blah blah. They had freshmen contribute, we had freshmen contribute (in the hostile environment), they do it all the time. Just not understanding the easing-them-into-it thing, especially when they are needed sooner rather than later. I guess, for some reason, they really aren't ready, or perhaps, they really aren't that good.

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Some frosh are ready day 1 (Watkins), some aren't (Bellamy).***

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Posted: Sep 3, 2014 12:54 PM
 




The easing in stuff failed in 2010...


Posted: Sep 3, 2014 1:13 PM
 

Remember the coaches kept on playing Marquan Jones and Xavier Dye over Jaron Brown and Nuk Hopkins for the first half of the season. Also, they continued playing Kyle Parker even though his ribs were injured after the spear in the Auburn game and it greatly effected the way he played.

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Dabo made those noob errors. Morris played Sammy from day 1.***


Posted: Sep 3, 2014 1:20 PM
 




Wrong, Dabo played a part in the decision to make Watkins...


Posted: Sep 3, 2014 2:46 PM
 

the number one receiver his freshman year.

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Re: FB Update: Dabo Swinney on Stoudt, Watson


Posted: Sep 3, 2014 12:52 PM
 

All I know is if Cole plays the majority of the snaps vs FSU we won't have a chance of beating them...My opinion mainly stems from our offensive line...I'd much rather have Deshaun back there to atleast give us a chance to extend plays.


Yep. If OL continues to stink, they may have to start Watson***


Posted: Sep 3, 2014 1:01 PM
 




The oline didn't play bad, Stoudt was just indecisive...


Posted: Sep 3, 2014 1:15 PM
 

he either didn't see open receivers or he threw the ball too late.

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The OL was awful. Watson took 2 consecutive sacks.***


Posted: Sep 3, 2014 1:24 PM
 




Yeah after UGA was up 45-21, and they knew we were going...


Posted: Sep 3, 2014 2:42 PM
 

to be passing the ball. Watson's first 2 drives he wasn't sacked.

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Re: FB Update: Dabo Swinney on Stoudt, Watson


Posted: Sep 3, 2014 1:03 PM
 

The line was down 3 men 1 on suspension, 1 injury[ACL],and 1 transferred.


Has to play well? I think throwing a laser TD pass in...

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Posted: Sep 3, 2014 1:05 PM
 

your first game as a true freshman in front of a hostile 92,000 crowd when we were down 14-7 is playing well.

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I think Wayne will be our go to RB

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Posted: Sep 3, 2014 1:09 PM
 

Looked great in the spring game and even looked good in the
UGA game. I can see big things coming for him.


Watson/Stoudt

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Posted: Sep 3, 2014 1:16 PM
 

Another area Deshaun trumps Cole is in the read option game...I believe Deshaun only ran it once or twice but it was immediately apparent that Georgia's defense was in a bind because he could give to the RB, keep himself, or throw...That completely changes how aggressive a defense can be...With Cole in the game Pruitt wasn't worried at all about our running game and blitzed Cole continuously...And I promise you other teams will do the same because Cole doesn't scare defensive coordinators and they recognize we're one dimensional...Dabo has to pull the trigger on Deshaun, if not we're in for a tough season.


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Posted: Sep 3, 2014 2:43 PM
 

I just wish that Dabo will get that players being seniors shouldn't matter. If one is better than the other play the one that is good and better fit the offense.


Well Choice couldn't play any LESS, now could he?***


Posted: Sep 3, 2014 4:24 PM
 




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