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Football Player Update: Venables comments on MacKensie Alexander
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Football Player Update: Venables comments on MacKensie Alexander


Dec 17, 2013, 6:24 PM

 
Venables comments on MacKensie Alexander

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Ok...I'll ask.


Dec 17, 2013, 6:40 PM

Is he keeping that #4 jersey? Bc that number is retired.

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I thought a # was retired to a certain position...


Dec 18, 2013, 8:09 AM

So there would never be another Steve Fuller, or Banks McFadden or CJ Spiller.

But the number would be there for a #4 or #28 WR. Makes more sense to allow the number while retaining the special memory of a man.

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If he wants to wear number four let him. Steve Fuller would


Dec 18, 2013, 10:19 AM

Say the same.

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Not so fast ...


Dec 18, 2013, 3:04 PM

I'm almost positive this issue actually came up a number of years ago and Steve was not happy about it.

Think it was when we signed Anthony Downs and he wanted #4.

Maybe I imagined it, but I don't think so.

Anyone else recall ??? Whatever it was back then, obviously it has been put to bed ... amicably or otherwise.

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Wayne Gallman is #4 on offense, is he not?***


Dec 18, 2013, 11:04 AM [ in reply to Ok...I'll ask. ]



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Two people will be wearing that jersey next year...


Dec 17, 2013, 6:41 PM

Alexander on defense and DW on offense.

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Sort of a slap in the face of the real #4.....Steve Fuller.


Dec 17, 2013, 6:50 PM

Time marches on I guess, but why retire them if you are not retiring them?

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Big Banks and Big Money are bringing all out of retirement***


Dec 17, 2013, 6:53 PM



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Speaking of "Big Banks" ... The Fridge wore the same #66 as


Dec 18, 2013, 3:14 PM

Clemson all-time great Banks McFadden.

Did we "retire" #66 on behalf of either player ???

Probably not.

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BTW, is William still with us? His health was of serious


Dec 18, 2013, 8:18 PM

concern the last I've heard of him.

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The Fridge is doing much better.***


Dec 18, 2013, 9:13 PM



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Awesome to hear- thanks for the info! I had bought a hat


Dec 18, 2013, 9:17 PM

from his big guy hunting store (I think he is in part owner) some time ago and he was ailing. Let me see if I can find his store especially with Xmas near.

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Bigcamo.com - still affiliated with William Perry in one way


Dec 18, 2013, 9:22 PM

or another: http://www.bigcamo.com/index.php

I endorse it too - prompt delivery and good quality, at least the hat was...

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Re: Speaking of "Big Banks" ... The Fridge wore the same #66 as


Dec 18, 2013, 9:07 PM [ in reply to Speaking of "Big Banks" ... The Fridge wore the same #66 as ]

Banks McFaddon's jersey was retired in 1987 after Perry had played.

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Have to use a numbering system 4a and 4b. Hard to think over


Dec 17, 2013, 6:58 PM [ in reply to Sort of a slap in the face of the real #4.....Steve Fuller. ]

Time the same type of players as in number won't be Be needed. The game should not be called as 4a runs for three just 4 runs.no roman numbers either

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Sure they checked with him***


Dec 18, 2013, 6:11 AM [ in reply to Sort of a slap in the face of the real #4.....Steve Fuller. ]



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Exactly Josephg


Dec 21, 2013, 4:24 AM

Nm

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Yeah sort of defeats the point in its entirety. Either


Dec 18, 2013, 8:22 PM [ in reply to Sort of a slap in the face of the real #4.....Steve Fuller. ]

retire a number out of honor or honor in another way. Sort of makes the honor seem like your the current flavor of the month or until the next flavor comes

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your = you're for the hair splitters***


Dec 18, 2013, 8:23 PM



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? me some Brent Venables.


Dec 17, 2013, 6:45 PM

His casually confident manner of speaking is refreshing in the modern "coachspeak" era. All of our "big 3" coaches have a very refreshing repertoire with the media. I for one love this time at Clemson...considering the last 20 yrs of coaching mis-hits we have slogged through.

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DB23


He solid but they won't need an empty backfield to


Dec 17, 2013, 7:02 PM

Run. This will be difficult to stop. I have confidence the offense and defense can make more plays than both of their units over the course of the game

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Brent Venables - all of them need to coach against Usuc


Dec 17, 2013, 9:21 PM [ in reply to ? me some Brent Venables. ]

Bad coaching from V - no spy on QB, bad coaching from Morris - why run qb when McDowell is running wild (and with only 14 carries) - 2nd year in a row, he put all the burden on Tajh when runners were doing so well!
Dabo should have overruled both of them and told them to spy and to run!

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Re: Football Player Update: Venables comments on MacKensie Alexander


Dec 17, 2013, 7:27 PM

he CAN NOT wear #4!! that number is retired never to be worn again!! this BS needs to be stopped NOW!!!

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Re: Football Player Update: Venables comments on MacKensie Alexander


Dec 17, 2013, 7:47 PM

Another player wore the number 4 in the 90s. More than likely Deshaun Watson will wear 4 too.

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They retire jerseys not numbers


Dec 17, 2013, 9:22 PM

We've been through this exact same thing before with big recruits.

Anthony Downs wore #4
William Perry wore #66.

Somebody will wear 28.

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Re: They retire jerseys not numbers


Dec 18, 2013, 12:29 AM

You are exactly right. It is confusing but that is the way it is.

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This is BS - # 4 is retired in honor of Fuller who's....


Dec 17, 2013, 8:09 PM

in the ROH - should never be worn again at Clemson in his honor.

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Re: This is BS - # 4 is retired in honor of Fuller who's....


Dec 17, 2013, 9:26 PM

Anthony Downs already wore it.

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Re: This is BS - # 4 is retired in honor of Fuller who's....


Dec 17, 2013, 9:34 PM

I thought we retired jerseys not numbers

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Re: This is BS - # 4 is retired in honor of Fuller who's....


Dec 17, 2013, 9:46 PM

We do now I think but I could have sworn #4 was retired when Fuller left.

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Anthony Downs wore #44, not #4


Dec 18, 2013, 8:12 PM [ in reply to Re: This is BS - # 4 is retired in honor of Fuller who's.... ]

Those old Clemson football programs have full texts online. Here is one linked below. You can scroll down and see that A. Downs wore #44.

http://archive.org/stream/clemsonuniversit00cle_8es/clemsonuniversit00cle_8es_djvu.txt

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Re: Anthony Downs wore #44, not #4


Dec 18, 2013, 8:32 PM

As I remember, they allowed Downs to wear 4.

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Re: This is BS - # 4 is retired in honor of Fuller who's....


Dec 17, 2013, 10:15 PM [ in reply to This is BS - # 4 is retired in honor of Fuller who's.... ]

it's a freaking number! just because someone wears it doesn't mean that fullers accomplishments go away. jesus! Who are you to tell a kid what number he can wear?

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#4


Dec 17, 2013, 8:16 PM

this is why Jersey's should be retired, not numbers

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1,000 years from now, over 100 players will have earned


Dec 17, 2013, 8:48 PM

their number retired. Like burying people after they die, it's unsustainable and silly.

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Dec 17, 2013, 9:00 PM

Good point. By then, we would be running low on single and double digits numbers. What's next triple digits.

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We should start using symbols and emoticons.....***


Dec 17, 2013, 9:17 PM



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who is that


Dec 17, 2013, 10:16 PM

:) from Alabama... he is a great player! and that # from southern cal.

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clemson doesn't retire numbers.. ring of honor doesn't mean


Dec 17, 2013, 9:15 PM [ in reply to 1,000 years from now, over 100 players will have earned ]

your number is retired. Dabo said a couple years ago that spiller's #28 may be the only # they ever retire at Clemson.

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aren't there 85 schollies and 30 walkons? how are 115 gonna all have unique


Dec 17, 2013, 9:17 PM

jersey numbers 1-99. Even if you squeezed in 0, 00, and all single digits with and without a leading zero (ex 05, and 5) that is only 110. Subtract the "retired" ones and there are several with dupes.

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Dec 17, 2013, 9:42 PM



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Dec 17, 2013, 9:45 PM

nice comment babe. lol

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Dec 18, 2013, 10:57 AM

better than most of yours.

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scout team wears opponent #


Dec 17, 2013, 9:44 PM

He is playing a position in bowl practice and wearing the # of the osu player at that position

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Re: scout team wears opponent #


Dec 17, 2013, 9:48 PM

please babe dont bring facts to this cesspool.

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Steve Fuller told a friend of mine he wasn't consulted & he


Dec 17, 2013, 10:41 PM

is a bit p*issed about it..but staying out of it too. He lives around the Bluffton/Hilton Head Island, for I met him at Alltel several years ago & had nice chat with him.

GoTiGERS.

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Hard to believe a grown man would be even the


Dec 17, 2013, 10:53 PM

slightest bit upset about something like this.

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exactly-- I would have very little respect for anyone who


Dec 17, 2013, 11:40 PM

would actually act that way over a #

it's impossible to retire a #--as pointed out above, it's not sustainable--- jersey's are retired and Downs already has worn 4 since Fuller

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Your friend is full of chit


Dec 18, 2013, 11:23 AM [ in reply to Steve Fuller told a friend of mine he wasn't consulted & he ]

He's playing the part of an opposing CB, thus wearing said CB's number. I'm sure Fuller would be smart enough to not get upset over a redshirt wearing his number in practice...

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Hey Bill - You are correct. Fuller was not happy.


Dec 18, 2013, 8:10 PM [ in reply to Steve Fuller told a friend of mine he wasn't consulted & he ]

I remember him being asked about it by one of the radio guys and he said no one on Clemson's staff had contacted him and he indicated he would not be agreeing to it.

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Dec 18, 2013, 10:57 AM [ in reply to Re: scout team wears opponent # ]

yea dont bring up the fact that the number has been worn before. We retire jerseys not numbers.

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Thanks... Didn't know everything was that exact. +1.***


Dec 18, 2013, 12:34 AM [ in reply to scout team wears opponent # ]



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They talked about 3 numbers retired. Of course they could


Dec 18, 2013, 8:00 AM

just say they didn't mean it.

http://clemsonpodcasts.wordpress.com/2009/12/02/spillers-28-to-be-retired/

According to Coach Dabo Swinney, C.J. Spiller will become the third player in Clemson football history to have his number retired. Spiller’s #28 will join Tiger legends Banks McFadden (#66) and Steve Fuller (#4) as the only Tigers to have their numbers retired.

This couldn’t have happened to a better guy. Spiller has proven both on and off the field that he is deserving of such an honor. C.J. Spiller will possibly go down as the best Clemson player in the history of the program. During his senior year, he surpassed record after record, week after week and continues to impress the nation.

C.J. stands alone in the history of the NCAA with 7 career kick returns for scores. He is one of only five players to ever reach 7,000 all purpose yards. Add to that a resume full of record shattering stats and you might could argue he is one of the top college players in history.

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Practice Jerseys Don't Count As Retired ----


Dec 18, 2013, 10:04 AM

He was wearing number 2.
Alexander is not supposed to wear No.4 in any game.
Unless they had some agreement as of late, that
the No.4 is to be retired on offense or defense only
depending on what position an outstanding player played.
But he should have on another number come next season
on gamedays.

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66 is retired. Banks McFadden***


Dec 18, 2013, 9:59 AM



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NO FARMERS NO FOOD


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Dec 18, 2013, 10:54 AM

William Perry wore it.

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Dec 18, 2013, 1:46 PM

Should do like teams do in basketball. Retire the jersey, not the #.
If you think a lot of junk is being said about this, wait until the Datonia 500 when Austin Dillon rolls out his # 3 sprint cup car.........

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Re: Football Player Update: Venables comments on MacKensie Alexander


Dec 18, 2013, 7:45 PM

I know this young man is very disappointed that he didn't get over this injury in time to have a memorable Fr. season on the field as a player, but good things come to those who wait. Stay the course, and you will get your chance to show that you will be a force to be reckoned with. I can't wait!

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Apex is CORRECT!!


Dec 18, 2013, 8:00 PM

Anthony Downs was promised #4 but after Fuller disapproved and many fans did as well, that promise was revoked. I don't know what number A. Downs wore but if someone can show me a link indicating he wore #4 I will be surprised.

Fuller was not happy about and rightfully so.

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Country G - you don't have to rely on your memory


Dec 18, 2013, 8:46 PM

You can Google it and see Downs was not allowed to wear #4.

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