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I am not a fan of the ACC or conferences in general, but... [6]
Posted: Dec 5, 2013 10:26 AM
 

I'm tired of the bias against our conference. They said the last few years that the ACC needed FSU to be back. The last I checked, they are #1. Now, these media pundits claim that we need FSU, Clemson and two or three additional teams to step it up to be relevant. The SEC for the last three years has been made up of Bama, LSU and the new member A&M. They have had some good teams like SC & UGA, but everyone else has been horrible except for Mizzou & Auburn this last year. The Big 10 is Ohio State and Michigan, period. The Big 12 has been Baylor, Oklahoma, OK State and no one else. The Pac-12 is Oregon and Stanford and the rest of the pack.

The point I'm making is that yes, it would be great if the other teams that we are contracted to play would step it up and not have a nearly four-way tie for 1st place in the Coastal with a 5-3 conference record. And, it would be good to have consistent wins against out of conference foes. But to say that conference relevancy is based on three or more teams to be premier throws out the Big 10, the Pac-12 and to some extent the Big 12 in this discussion too.

This all boils down to the SEC. Lets look at the mighty SEC over the last two years. Kentucky, Arkansas, Tennessee, and Mississippi St have been HORRIBLE. Auburn and Mizzou were not good last year but turned things around this year. Florida was 7-1 in the conference last year and are now 3-5 this year. SC, UGA, Vandy, Mississippi are good teams but not elite. The last three years, we were told that the SEC was elite because Alabama was the dominant team. This year, we're being told the SEC is elite because there are multiple teams that can compete for a conference championship. Which is it? Is it both? If so, there are other conferences that have had one team dominate and other conferences that have had multiple champions represented from its members.

This is what is referred to as public perception through media bias. The SEC spin masters are excellent at what they do, but they obviously don't think that the average person has a memory beyond 9 months. Just wait until the BCS Committee begins next year. We haven't seen SEC spin like what is about to occur from their conference office and media relations. The other conference offices need to step it up if they want to compete in this media war.

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Front Page Story: Edwards: ACC needs more than FSU and Clemson for league to be relevant
TigerNet News® Dec 5, 2013 9:21 AM
Legitimate.***
SOLOS® Dec 5, 2013 9:27 AM
Re: Uhhh but we have Duke now too
74TIGER Dec 5, 2013 9:30 AM
Actually......
bowlhunter Dec 5, 2013 10:35 AM
Re: Uhhh but we have Duke now too
lhaselden Dec 5, 2013 12:47 PM
The ACC is trending up.
think2x Dec 5, 2013 9:32 AM
Agree with all of this outside of Louisville.
Mike1189 Dec 5, 2013 9:33 AM
Re: Agree with all of this outside of Louisville.
WP85 Dec 5, 2013 7:37 PM
Per Sagarin SOS, ACC has been historically weak past 3 years
Razzmatazz Dec 6, 2013 12:30 PM
Per Razz, wins and losses should be wholly based on
Shane_Morgan Dec 7, 2013 2:41 PM
lol...fsu is a game away from
GeeVille Tiger Dec 5, 2013 9:33 AM
Replace Big10 for everyone of those arguments, then ####***
OldTiger05 Dec 5, 2013 9:37 AM
would agree with this...it's fair
Tigerfansince1972® Dec 5, 2013 9:40 AM
True - but not that much more. That is what is so very,
Smiling Tiger® Dec 5, 2013 9:43 AM
Vandy and Wake are even????
Tigerfansince1972® Dec 5, 2013 9:45 AM
Head-to-head, Absolutely. Vandy won this year with a
Smiling Tiger® Dec 5, 2013 10:03 AM
obviously that means we aren't even with SC then.....***
Tigerfansince1972® Dec 5, 2013 10:10 AM
Of course - I don't see how anybody can claim that we are.
Smiling Tiger® Dec 5, 2013 10:55 AM
Vandy went 4-4 in SEC and beat Tennessee***
Xrugger Dec 5, 2013 10:16 AM
exactly - THAT is my point. If I understand corectly,
Smiling Tiger® Dec 5, 2013 10:51 AM
Re: True - but not that much more. That is what is so very,
Dugatiger® Dec 5, 2013 10:42 AM
Re: True - but not that much more. That is what is so very,
lhaselden Dec 5, 2013 12:52 PM
Re: True - but not that much more. That is what is so very,
Dugatiger® Dec 5, 2013 3:14 PM
Re: True - but not that much more. That is what is so very,
IvegottheCooties Dec 5, 2013 4:10 PM
Re: Front Page Story: Edwards: ACC needs more than FSU and Clemson for league to be relevant
allorangeallthetime52® Dec 5, 2013 10:05 AM
Good argument. It's reflective of the 'Here and Now' society
SOLOS® Dec 5, 2013 10:20 AM
Re: Good argument. It's reflective of the 'Here and Now' society
Dugatiger® Dec 5, 2013 10:47 AM
108 yards from irrelevancy just last week. Now... Mizz?***
SOLOS® Dec 5, 2013 10:51 AM
Re: 108 yards from irrelevancy just last week. Now... Mizz?***
IvegottheCooties Dec 5, 2013 4:12 PM
Re: 108 yards from irrelevancy just last week. Now... Mizz?***
Neutron Dec 5, 2013 4:18 PM
Re: Good argument. It's reflective of the 'Here and Now' society
allorangeallthetime52® Dec 5, 2013 8:15 PM
Re: Front Page Story: Edwards: ACC needs more than FSU and Clemson for league to be relevant
Dugatiger® Dec 5, 2013 10:44 AM
Re: Front Page Story: Edwards: ACC needs more than FSU and Clemson for league to be relevant
oldschtiger70® Dec 5, 2013 10:05 PM
Two teams are enough to propel one into the National Title.
cutigersJD® Dec 5, 2013 10:09 AM
We should have beat SCAR then.***
Completely Solid Orange® Dec 5, 2013 10:15 AM
Re: We should have beat SCAR then.***
Dugatiger® Dec 5, 2013 10:48 AM
Re: We should have beat SCAR then.***
allorangeallthetime52® Dec 5, 2013 8:27 PM
Fsu
Lilnaitch Dec 5, 2013 10:19 AM
This year... YES.***
SOLOS® Dec 5, 2013 10:21 AM
Re: Front Page Story: Edwards: ACC needs more than FSU and Clemson for league to be relevant
SBCharleston Dec 5, 2013 10:22 AM
I am not a fan of the ACC or conferences in general, but...
quadtiger Dec 5, 2013 10:26 AM
Very well stated.+1.***
SOLOS® Dec 5, 2013 10:29 AM
Re: I am not a fan of the ACC or conferences in general, but...
Dugatiger® Dec 5, 2013 10:52 AM
Yeah, but winning the title the last few years has helped
BentZero Dec 5, 2013 2:02 PM
When there's a "Wheel of Destiny", something's wrong***
MemphisCat® Dec 5, 2013 8:30 PM
Re: I am not a fan of the ACC or conferences in general, but...
allorangeallthetime52® Dec 5, 2013 8:45 PM
Wrong! Look at SEC's record in bowls & vs noncon big boys.***
Razzmatazz Dec 7, 2013 1:40 PM
Big East has a better bowl record and MWC nipping on their
Shane_Morgan Dec 7, 2013 2:17 PM
Re: Big East has a better bowl record and MWC nipping on their
IBeWriteGood® Dec 7, 2013 2:25 PM
I certainly wouldn't say top to bottom they're one of the
Shane_Morgan Dec 7, 2013 2:36 PM
Re: I certainly wouldn't say top to bottom they're one of the
IBeWriteGood® Dec 7, 2013 2:41 PM
And SEC needs more than Bama and Auburn to be relevant***
cupton® Dec 5, 2013 10:49 AM
Re: And SEC needs more than Bama and Auburn to be relevant***
Dugatiger® Dec 5, 2013 10:54 AM
They have 7 of the top 25.***
Mike1189 Dec 5, 2013 11:00 AM
That's what happens when you rise from wins over the likes
SOLOS® Dec 5, 2013 12:03 PM
Re: That's what happens when you rise from wins over the likes
Dugatiger® Dec 6, 2013 9:24 AM
Re: And SEC needs more than Bama and Auburn to be relevant***
allorangeallthetime52® Dec 5, 2013 8:52 PM
NO doubt the ACC closed some distance on the SEC this year
AllTimeClemson Dec 5, 2013 11:59 AM
Re: NO doubt the ACC closed some distance on the SEC this year
allorangeallthetime52® Dec 5, 2013 8:54 PM
ACC is historically weak. SEC had an injury-plagued down yr.
Razzmatazz Dec 7, 2013 1:54 PM
Yeah, and Sagarin is the guy who won't expose his formula.
Shane_Morgan Dec 7, 2013 2:23 PM
Re: Front Page Story: Edwards: ACC needs more than FSU and Clemson for league to be relevant
deleted Dec 5, 2013 12:02 PM
Their nerves are all to helll because they don't have...
ClemsonTiger1988® Dec 5, 2013 12:09 PM
Actually it's been Bama that has made the SEShe so relevant
WolfMan2 Dec 5, 2013 12:41 PM
Doesn't seem to hurt the Big 12/Pac 12
IPTAY FAMILY Dec 5, 2013 2:04 PM
There didn't seem to be that much disparity between leagues
TigerPruitt Dec 5, 2013 2:08 PM
And this folks is why you should care about ACC OOC results
BentZero Dec 5, 2013 2:13 PM
Clemson beat LSU and Louisville beat Florida
quadtiger Dec 5, 2013 3:59 PM
I'm done with ESPN's definition of "relevant".
Wookie Dec 5, 2013 2:22 PM
Re: I'm done with ESPN's definition of "relevant".
deleted Dec 5, 2013 2:24 PM
How so? I didn't say we won. ******
Wookie Dec 5, 2013 2:30 PM
Re: I'm done with ESPN's definition of "relevant".
deleted Dec 5, 2013 3:14 PM
It's a question of competitiveness. Do you not understand?
Wookie Dec 5, 2013 4:33 PM
Re: I'm done with ESPN's definition of "relevant".
Skeeter3 Dec 5, 2013 5:21 PM
Re: I'm done with ESPN's definition of "relevant".
deleted Dec 6, 2013 10:53 AM
How can the ACC improve when the SEC gets all the perks that
IRONCAT68 Dec 5, 2013 2:53 PM
Re: How can the ACC improve when the SEC gets all the perks that
oldschtiger70® Dec 5, 2013 10:31 PM
Clearly
MackDaddy® Dec 5, 2013 3:40 PM
It bothers me and should bother you that Edwards and others
AThomas® Dec 5, 2013 4:21 PM
So says the Bama journalism grad who works for ESPN.
RogerS® Dec 5, 2013 7:39 PM
Rogers I agree with you
jmj212 Dec 5, 2013 7:47 PM
Re: Rogers I agree with you
Skeeter3 Dec 5, 2013 7:58 PM
It's always a convoluted argument except for 'Bama...
RogerS® Dec 5, 2013 9:01 PM
If they had put them in opposing divisions we'd have one***
Tickled Orange® Dec 5, 2013 9:09 PM
Re: Front Page Story: Edwards: ACC needs more than FSU and Clemson for league to be relevant
CUalum79ALLn65® Dec 5, 2013 9:32 PM
Miami is getting there, they have had top 10
Bryanttiger® Dec 6, 2013 12:19 AM
Notre Dame and Miami will be in the top 15 next year too.
Buffalo Creek Tiger Dec 6, 2013 5:57 AM