Tiger Board Logo

Donor's Den General Leaderboards TNET coins™ POTD Hall of Fame Map FAQ
GIVE AN AWARD
Use your TNET coins™ to grant this post a special award!

W
50
Big Brain
90
Love it!
100
Cheers
100
Helpful
100
Made Me Smile
100
Great Idea!
150
Mind Blown
150
Caring
200
Flammable
200
Hear ye, hear ye
200
Bravo
250
Nom Nom Nom
250
Take My Coins
500
Ooo, Shiny!
700
Treasured Post!
1000

YOUR BALANCE
Front Page Story: Running backs hope to lessen the pounding Boyd takes
storage This topic has been archived - replies are not allowed.
Archives - Tiger Boards Archive
add New Topic
Replies: 33
| visibility 1

Front Page Story: Running backs hope to lessen the pounding Boyd takes


Aug 21, 2013, 9:16 AM

 
Running backs hope to lessen the pounding Boyd takes

Clemson quarterback Tajh Boyd was seemingly Clemson's only option in short-yardage situations last season, something that running back Roderick McDowell hopes changes this season as the running backs take on a larger role. Full Story »


flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: Gallman...has he put on weight?


Aug 21, 2013, 9:24 AM

Hot Rod described him as a "heavy duty" back...His profile has him at 195lbs, wondering if he's over the 200lb mark now?

I'm stoked to have a big back...I love the notion of a few scat backs + a few bruisers on the roster.

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Per Dabo: " Gallman is 200 pounds and looks skinny. He’ll


Aug 21, 2013, 10:24 AM

be 220 by this time next year, and he’s violent, fast and smart."

He was a pretty good LB in HS as well, and was very physical.

2024 purple level memberbadge-donor-15yr.jpg flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."
- H. L. Mencken


Re: Per Dabo: " Gallman is 200 pounds and looks skinny. He’ll


Aug 22, 2013, 6:36 PM

But aren't we talking about THIS year? From what I hear, Tyeshon Dye is injured, Zac Brooks still weighs about 185 (what he weighed in HS), Gallman is 200. So, what power back are we talking about? I like McDowell, but he weighs 195. Maybe, I'm missing something, but we don't have a powet running back. Which means they will continue to risk Tajh, and when he's injured, we go down the tubes. And Clemson doesn't recruit JV players. Brilliant.

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Boyd at 230 was only fb type we had - Dye is injured - are


Aug 21, 2013, 9:24 AM

the other backs big enough to pound?

military_donation.jpg flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

He might have been 230 a couple years ago, but not last year***


Aug 21, 2013, 9:48 AM



2024 orange level memberbadge-donor-10yr.jpg flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up


The point is that he was only one big and powerful enough


Aug 21, 2013, 9:51 AM

to pound obviously!

military_donation.jpg flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: The point is that he was only one big and powerful enough


Aug 22, 2013, 6:48 PM

And you want to continue to risk the key player on our team. forcing him to function as a power running back? How long can they continue to do this before we lose him to injury? We have incoming linebackers who also stood out as running backs in HS. They weigh 220 plus.
Why not give one of these guys a shot at RB? For god's sake, use some imagination. Teams are going to target Tajh, and if we adjust, he will end up injured.

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Morris has said that Zac is a great inside runner


Aug 21, 2013, 11:57 AM [ in reply to Boyd at 230 was only fb type we had - Dye is injured - are ]

he's kind of a big kid. 6'2 around 200lbs, he's got the frame to add more weight.

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Agree, now that Dye is injured, Zac may be best hope to


Aug 21, 2013, 12:45 PM

take the pressure off Boyd.

military_donation.jpg flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: Morris has said that Zac is a great inside runner


Aug 22, 2013, 7:14 PM [ in reply to Morris has said that Zac is a great inside runner ]

I hope you are right. But, that's not what I hear. And even if he has gained up to 200, is that really a power back who is going to be effective between the tackles, or blocking for Tajh? When I've seen him online, he's looked skinny. By comparison, UGA's lead tailback is now up to 230. Their "speed" back weighs 217, and some consider him the better of the two. My point is this: Our S&C program and player development program seem to be sadly deficient. I know this is going to incur the wrath of the mindless "thought police," but that's the price of honestly expressing one's opinion on this site. I hope we can upset UGA, but I can see them running up and down the field against us, and riddling what is going to be a terrible secondary with their passing attack. I hope I'm wrong. Now,all the rednecks can unload.

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: Boyd at 230 was only fb type we had - Dye is injured - are


Aug 22, 2013, 6:38 PM [ in reply to Boyd at 230 was only fb type we had - Dye is injured - are ]

I dont't think so. If so, tell me who it is.

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

It was Hot Rod that made the block on 4th and 16 right ?


Aug 21, 2013, 9:27 AM

Excellent block to give Boyd the needed time to make the pass

2024 orange level memberbadge-donor-15yr.jpg flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Best Is The Standard


I really like Hot Rod but not convinced he can pound - tough


Aug 21, 2013, 9:30 AM

scatback like most of rb's.

military_donation.jpg flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Yeah, this block


Aug 21, 2013, 9:34 AM [ in reply to It was Hot Rod that made the block on 4th and 16 right ? ]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BP1xZFKTx10

2024 orange level memberbadge-donor-10yr.jpg flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up


That was fun - thanks - great block and Tajh threaded a


Aug 21, 2013, 9:43 AM

a needle! That should have been play of year without a doubt!

military_donation.jpg flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Honest question? Why not block face to face on 4th and 16?


Aug 21, 2013, 11:02 AM [ in reply to Yeah, this block ]

The blocking technique he used is a good way to save your body for later in the game...but on 4th and 16th don't you have to give everything you have?

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Take is legs out and make him fall


Aug 21, 2013, 11:37 AM

vs. try to stand him up where he could get his hands up and block the pass or potentially knock Rod backward into Tajh?

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: Honest question? Why not block face to face on 4th and 16?


Aug 22, 2013, 7:18 PM [ in reply to Honest question? Why not block face to face on 4th and 16? ]

Yeah,

And passed the ball, not run.

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: Yeah, this block


Aug 21, 2013, 11:30 AM [ in reply to Yeah, this block ]

I think that was Mac Lain and Hot Rod that gave Tajh the time to get that ball away. If not for those two, end of game right then.

2024 orange level memberbadge-donor-15yr.jpg flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up


I guess you can call that a block, more like laying on the


Aug 21, 2013, 11:59 AM [ in reply to Yeah, this block ]

ground in the guy's way. But it did allow Tajh enough time to get the ball out.

If you want to see a RB who was great at pass pro, watch Emmitt Smith. He would lay the wood to blitzing LB's much larger than him.

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

hopefully dye is more than Harper. He


Aug 21, 2013, 9:30 AM

never lived up to that 5 star billing.

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Yeah, Harper ran like a scatback . was not a pounder!***


Aug 21, 2013, 9:31 AM



military_donation.jpg flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

additionally he danced like he was trying out for rallycats***


Aug 21, 2013, 9:47 AM



flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

lol unfortunately!***


Aug 21, 2013, 9:48 AM



military_donation.jpg flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: Yeah, Harper ran like a scatback . was not a pounder!***


Aug 21, 2013, 11:32 AM [ in reply to Yeah, Harper ran like a scatback . was not a pounder!*** ]

Harper was a scat around behind the LOS dancer;)

2024 orange level memberbadge-donor-15yr.jpg flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up


Harper wasn't a five star


Aug 21, 2013, 11:36 AM [ in reply to hopefully dye is more than Harper. He ]

but he did what we needed him to do in his last year after CJ left. Heck, as a back-up to CJ he had more yards than Rod did as a back-up to Ellington. Harper was also a great receiver.

I do hope that if Dye is ever our starter at RB, he'll have more than the 800 yards rushing that Jamie Harper had his last year. But I see no reason to dog Jamie like he didn't do a lot for us.


Message was edited by: camcgee®

2024 white level memberbadge-donor-10yr.jpg flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Simple - the point is that while big, hevwas NOT a pounder


Aug 21, 2013, 12:43 PM

we need badly.

military_donation.jpg flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: Harper wasn't a five star


Aug 21, 2013, 12:49 PM [ in reply to Harper wasn't a five star ]

Jamie left his junior year

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up


Harper did what we needed as a senior? What? Go to the NFL?


Aug 21, 2013, 1:25 PM [ in reply to Harper wasn't a five star ]

Harper left after his junior year.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft2011/news/story?id=6000409

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: Harper did what we needed as a senior? What? Go to the NFL?


Aug 22, 2013, 7:25 PM

Did he make it in the NFL? Two of our recent highly touted (by Dabo)entries into the NFL are "busts." Not terribly encouraging.

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Was that the Moat-Ness monster that swam behind HotRod?***


Aug 21, 2013, 9:43 AM



2024 white level memberbadge-donor-15yr.jpg flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Morris' Tulsa QBs averaged 14 carries/gm despite 5 BIG RBs.


Aug 21, 2013, 2:10 PM

I don't think that pounding-RBs are going to have much impact on whether Boyd runs the ball. But having a good running game will help Boyd take less of a pounding in that he may not have to pass as often and take such brutal (often defenseless) hits as a passer. As a runner, I actually don't recall Boyd taking brutal hits as a runner, but he took a lot of scary shots as a passer.

A large part of the reason that Morris runs his QBs (like he did with GJ Kinne at Tulsa) is to gain a "numbers advantage" on the defense, and to keep them guessing. At Tulsa in 2010, Morris had five RBs at his disposal, weighing 245lbs, 235lbs, 218lbs, 205lbs, & 199lbs, but Morris ran his QBs an average of 14 times/game. That's just his style of offense.

Tulsa's 2010 roster:
http://www.tulsahurricane.com/sports/m-footbl/archive/m-footbl-roster-2010.html

Tulsa's 2010 stats:
http://www.tulsahurricane.com/sports/m-footbl/stats/2010-2011/teamcume.html#TEAM.IND

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Re: Morris' Tulsa QBs averaged 14 carries/gm despite 5 BIG RBs.


Aug 22, 2013, 7:35 PM

So that makes it sensible? Even the announcers in the bowl game kept questioning why we were continuing to risk Boyd, when our RBs were running successfully against LSU. Maybe that makes sense, but not to me. McDowell was averaging over 5 yds. per carry against them. Maybe I'm missing something here.

flag link military_tech thumb_downthumb_up

Replies: 33
| visibility 1
Archives - Tiger Boards Archive
add New Topic