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milerock®
Short term: the demise of FSU and UM and to an extent [3]
Posted: May 21, 2012 9:50 AM
 

Clemson.

Long term: The ACC's decision to hitch its wagon to hoops back in the late 50s and the deemphasis of foootball at UNC Dook and Maryland.

Also: the decision to beat up on Clemson, the 1 true football school in the ACC in the early 80s.

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Subject (Replies: 52) Author Date Posted
Who is really to blame for ACC's demise in football?
 josephg® May 21, 2012 9:45 AM
Short term: the demise of FSU and UM and to an extent
 milerock® May 21, 2012 9:50 AM
Myth. I think they did hitch their wagon to academics
 josephg® May 21, 2012 10:26 AM
Because in the 70's and 80's we could play huge OOC
 AThomas® May 21, 2012 10:41 AM
Of course, but the extra year of probation didn't hurt our
 josephg® May 21, 2012 10:52 AM
Leadership.
 AThomas® May 21, 2012 9:51 AM
Gotta keep Swoffy Jr. employed***
 PenthouseTiger May 21, 2012 9:54 AM
If FSU won a NC in 2008, Miami in 2009, and Clemson
 josephg® May 21, 2012 10:28 AM
You have your opinions and I have mine--how about that?
 AThomas® May 21, 2012 10:37 AM
But you only debate that point with rhetoric***
 josephg® May 21, 2012 10:56 AM
Hey--I was respectful of your BS -- so stay classy***
 AThomas® May 21, 2012 10:54 AM
What's a classy word for BS? I'll try to amend.***
 josephg® May 21, 2012 10:55 AM
Rhetoric like FSU,UM and Clemson winning 3 NCs in a row?***
 CM Shack May 21, 2012 1:42 PM
They haven't come close...that's why the ACC is down.***
 josephg® May 21, 2012 2:13 PM
No...US dominating the 80s and FSU dominating the 90s did
 CM Shack May 21, 2012 4:26 PM
Yea, you need at least two great teams. That's why I
 josephg® May 21, 2012 4:42 PM
Complete make believe...***
 CM Shack May 21, 2012 1:43 PM
That's right. That's why it's not complete make believe
 josephg® May 21, 2012 4:11 PM
I think you've mostly got it right...
 gosmitty May 21, 2012 9:53 AM
I'm not sure any of that matters...
 tdrake® May 21, 2012 9:55 AM
Do you have any specifics as to what should have been
 josephg® May 21, 2012 10:30 AM
Placing blame or pointing out error seldom solves problems.
 ClemsonTiger1988® May 21, 2012 10:08 AM
LOL, Swofford had guns to their heads to he bring down
 josephg® May 21, 2012 10:22 AM
We don't have to get snippy all the time.
 ClemsonTiger1988® May 21, 2012 11:19 AM
Re: Who is really to blame for ACC's demise in football?
 owensdj May 21, 2012 10:32 AM
All conferences have that.***
 josephg® May 21, 2012 10:49 AM
Which group is worse over the last 5 years
 IPTAY FAMILY May 21, 2012 1:34 PM
Agree. We have met the enemy and the enemy is us.***
 coneross May 21, 2012 10:32 AM
Re: Agree. We have met the enemy and the enemy is us.***
 Tomcatgre May 21, 2012 10:38 AM
Hardly.***
 AThomas® May 21, 2012 10:45 AM
So, Swofford is the reason FSU, Miami, Clemson, UNC,
 josephg® May 21, 2012 10:54 AM
Schools not named FSU, Clemson, and VT
 SteelTiger1 May 21, 2012 10:41 AM
Why did UNC hire Butch Davis? I think what you say
 josephg® May 21, 2012 10:50 AM
clemson would never hire sos
 sgt tiger® May 21, 2012 10:44 AM
Why?***
 josephg® May 21, 2012 10:51 AM
No, we just hired his whipping boy.***
 dannyfan1981 May 21, 2012 10:59 AM
Reverse experiences and Dabo would leave SOS in the
 Tiger5 May 21, 2012 11:39 AM
What if BC, GT, Wake, Maryland, Miami, or UNC brought
 Keyser Soze May 21, 2012 10:57 AM
DING DING DING!!!***
 ClemsonTiger1988® May 21, 2012 11:22 AM
I agree with that.***
 josephg® May 21, 2012 11:35 AM
Might do a little more research on GT and UNC at their
 Tiger5 May 21, 2012 11:43 AM
UNC travels well. GT traveled well to Tampa in ACCCG.***
 josephg® May 21, 2012 11:55 AM
Does it really matter whose "fought" it is
 ReallyJoelShaw May 21, 2012 10:58 AM
Football has NEVER been a priority under Swofford
 Tiger5 May 21, 2012 11:41 AM
Swofford played college football. Examples
 josephg® May 21, 2012 12:52 PM
John Swofford played football and was athletic director
 tigrjm76® May 21, 2012 1:00 PM
Dean Smith/UNC winning "adapted and furthered" UNC's
 josephg® May 21, 2012 1:07 PM
Swofford was the athletic director at unc for years during
 tigrjm76® May 21, 2012 1:40 PM
LOL. This post is a sham.You make statements and
 josephg® May 21, 2012 2:13 PM
sigh***
 tigrjm76® May 21, 2012 3:00 PM
You got that straight bubba.***
 josephg® May 21, 2012 4:09 PM
Tigernet***
 AdamD021 May 21, 2012 3:06 PM
Re: Who is really to blame for ACC's demise in football?
 CUZ28 May 21, 2012 4:44 PM