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Why it’s hip to say “folks” now
Oct 19, 2022, 11:44 AM
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It’s bothered me for a while. Tune in to npr and you’ll hear it nonstop: poor folks, rich folks, white folks, black folks, folks with parkinsons (heard it this morning). In the past it was the faddishness of it that bothered me, the way that people apparently use it to mark themselves as a member of the “in crowd,” the intelligent who possess the answers to all social questions. But now I see something more sinister behind the use of the word “folk.”
The way the word is used is as a substitute for “people.” A group of “people” is comprised of a bunch of individual persons. Folk is different. There is no singular. You can’t say “he’s a folk”, but you can say “he’s a person.” Saying “folks” is a way to take away the individual humanity of the people within the group, a way to cause the group to become something that is more homogeneous than it really is, to further separate the individuals in the group from those outside the group. The group is a block of sameness, not a collection of individuals. To say “people” implies a bunch of individuals and therefore a shared human experience among those within and outside the group being discussed, and this makes it less desirable when the intent is to dehumanize and divide.
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Re: Why it’s hip to say “folks” now
Oct 19, 2022, 11:51 AM
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Folks = minions, deplorables, losers, poor people, dolts, morons, not elites, people we own.
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Oculus Spirit [81078]
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Interesting.
Oct 19, 2022, 12:10 PM
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I've been calling people "folks" for decades. I never saw it as describing other people as "minions, deplorables, losers, poor people, dolts, morons, not elites, people we own".
I certainly don't purport to owning anyone. Especially when I'm referring to people who are related to me "kinfolk". Really its a friendlier way of saying a group of people. My father used to describe "folks" like that often.
You and the OP are way way off base here, and looking for something that isn't there.
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Re: Interesting.
Oct 19, 2022, 12:18 PM
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Me too. And I was a registered Republican until the 2020 election.
But yeah. It's a secret Commie Mind Plot, I guess.
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We’re talking about two different words
Oct 19, 2022, 12:55 PM
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The one you’re describing is traditional, the one I’m talking about has been adopted by a different set, who use it differently, e.g. you won’t find them using the term “kinfolk.” The new way the word is used is an actual phenomenon, not something I’m searching for, but something I’ve observed
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Oculus Spirit [81078]
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Seems like the same word to me.
Oct 19, 2022, 5:19 PM
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Like I said earlier--I think you are trying to find something where there is nothing.
Can't hit if you don't swing I guess.
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I’m not as content to bunt as you are
Oct 19, 2022, 6:08 PM
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When we take the word taco from Mexican Spanish, we change the meaning. We add lettuce and tomato and sour cream to it, and “taco” becomes something slightly different, just like when left leaning journalists on npr adopt the word “folks,” they necessarily put their own spin on it, namely one of condescension.
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Re: Why it’s hip to say “folks” now
Oct 19, 2022, 12:00 PM
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"my people"-Eric Holder
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Re: Why it’s hip to say “folks” now
Oct 19, 2022, 12:51 PM
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Holder placed himself among the people he described, ergo humanizing them more in an impassioned speech vs the dispassionate and sterile neoliberal “folk”
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You must not be from the south***
Oct 19, 2022, 12:11 PM
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That was my thought as well***
Oct 19, 2022, 12:11 PM
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The people I’m talking about aren’t from the south
Oct 19, 2022, 12:56 PM
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And in their adoption of the word, they use it differently
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Re: Why it’s hip to say “folks” now
Oct 19, 2022, 12:13 PM
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It's a way of not being offensive.
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Re: Why it’s hip to say “folks” now
Oct 19, 2022, 12:14 PM
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I use folks all the time and have forever. The left may be trying to redefine it like they have done with so many other words.
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Yes***
Oct 19, 2022, 12:57 PM
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Re: Why it’s hip to say “folks” now
Oct 19, 2022, 1:02 PM
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Re: Why it’s hip to say “folks” now
Oct 19, 2022, 5:26 PM
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It's about time to go to the mountains and get away from humanity for a while.
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Here's a guy that never played Red Dead Redemption***
Oct 19, 2022, 1:18 PM
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Always thought Po Folks was branding genius
Oct 19, 2022, 4:47 PM
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"where are we going to eat tonight Mom"
"we're going to Po Folks and get us a Nekkid Breast"
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joeyb® has said "folks" for 50 years! So - I'm grandfathered
Oct 19, 2022, 5:16 PM
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in and should not be lumped in with any hipsters who have finally realized how cool I am.
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Perfect explanation
Oct 19, 2022, 6:10 PM
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Soon it will probably be racist though
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this sounds like made up outrage similar to the Gen Z/thumbs
Oct 19, 2022, 9:19 PM
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up nonsense.
I use folks and y'all when talking to a group of people. Mostly because it's better than saying 'yinze', 'you'ns', or 'yous guys'.
I also have not noticed an uptick in other using it the way you say. It seems to me as if you are always listening out for it so that you can feign outrage against the 'hipsters' (are hipsters still a thing?)
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CU Guru [1868]
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Seems to me you’re always listening for feigned outrage
Oct 20, 2022, 7:06 AM
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Because I’m not outraged, nor am i feigning outrage. I’m expressing an observation which i find somewhat irritating. I guess that makes you a feaux outraged millenial?
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Where I grew up folks were parents***
Oct 19, 2022, 11:35 PM
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This is a national outrage.***
Oct 20, 2022, 8:02 AM
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It’s annoying***
Oct 20, 2022, 8:37 AM
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What can we do to put America back on track?!***
Oct 20, 2022, 8:43 AM
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Put tnet in charge***
Oct 20, 2022, 9:32 AM
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Well, I won't say I did and I won't say I didn't...
Oct 20, 2022, 10:19 AM
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But I'll say a man who wouldn't cheat for a poke don't want one bad enough.
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There’s certain things my vanity won’t abide***
Oct 20, 2022, 10:24 AM
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#landfill***
Oct 20, 2022, 11:49 AM
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